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Markuss Sephyl
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:52:00 -
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As I sat in my quarters, fresh from a victorious battle, I thought that I could have done better. Then my thoughts turned to how many times I had died during that battle. It confused me. I have "died" many times in my endeavors. Yet here I sit, with memories of every second I have fought. There is one thing I do not remember, however, and that is how I came into being. I was given conciousness not by a mother, but by a machine. I am not who I am. Whose body is this? The one where I "reside", as if it were just another living quarters? Did it belong to somebody? I pondered these questions, the meaning of this treasonous thought eluding me. Then, I realized that the very same people who we were warring against went through the very same process.
Being a soldier for so long, you never really see someone's face. It makes me question of the humanity of it all. Are we even human anymore? We are not "mindless", that has been proven through our ever-shifting conciousness. But, we are "bodyless". We will eventually lose this body. Were we to lay down our arms and refuse to fight, we would be terminated. Have you ever thought how many times your enemies have died? And how, even though you killing them wins you valor, there is a fresh clone there to replace them?
Our societies and cultures are different. Our beliefs are different. Our style and our tactics are different. But our method of waging war? All too familiar. It made me think: In regards to our enemies, we justify our actions through whatever belief system our culture is "supposed" to stand for. But when it comes to the actual fighting...
Are we really any better?
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:56:00 -
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War is always an ugly business no matter what your intentions and ideals are. |
Minako Nakajima
Vortex State Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:08:00 -
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It's all about the ISK... |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
88
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:18:00 -
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Markuss Sephyl wrote:As I sat in my quarters, fresh from a victorious battle, I thought that I could have done better. Then my thoughts turned to how many times I had died during that battle. It confused me. I have "died" many times in my endeavors. Yet here I sit, with memories of every second I have fought. There is one thing I do not remember, however, and that is how I came into being. I was given conciousness not by a mother, but by a machine. I am not who I am. Whose body is this? The one where I "reside", as if it were just another living quarters? Did it belong to somebody? I pondered these questions, the meaning of this treasonous thought eluding me. Then, I realized that the very same people who we were warring against went through the very same process.
Being a soldier for so long, you never really see someone's face. It makes me question of the humanity of it all. Are we even human anymore? We are not "mindless", that has been proven through our ever-shifting conciousness. But, we are "bodyless". We will eventually lose this body. Were we to lay down our arms and refuse to fight, we would be terminated. Have you ever thought how many times your enemies have died? And how, even though you killing them wins you valor, there is a fresh clone there to replace them?
Our societies and cultures are different. Our beliefs are different. Our style and our tactics are different. But our method of waging war? All too familiar. It made me think: In regards to our enemies, we justify our actions through whatever belief system our culture is "supposed" to stand for. But when it comes to the actual fighting...
Are we really any better?
No, no we are not but, does it really even matter?
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:33:00 -
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Markuss Sephyl wrote:As I sat in my quarters, fresh from a victorious battle, I thought that I could have done better. Then my thoughts turned to how many times I had died during that battle. It confused me. I have "died" many times in my endeavors. Yet here I sit, with memories of every second I have fought. There is one thing I do not remember, however, and that is how I came into being. I was given conciousness not by a mother, but by a machine. I am not who I am. Whose body is this? The one where I "reside", as if it were just another living quarters? Did it belong to somebody? I pondered these questions, the meaning of this treasonous thought eluding me. Then, I realized that the very same people who we were warring against went through the very same process.
Being a soldier for so long, you never really see someone's face. It makes me question of the humanity of it all. Are we even human anymore? We are not "mindless", that has been proven through our ever-shifting conciousness. But, we are "bodyless". We will eventually lose this body. Were we to lay down our arms and refuse to fight, we would be terminated. Have you ever thought how many times your enemies have died? And how, even though you killing them wins you valor, there is a fresh clone there to replace them?
Our societies and cultures are different. Our beliefs are different. Our style and our tactics are different. But our method of waging war? All too familiar. It made me think: In regards to our enemies, we justify our actions through whatever belief system our culture is "supposed" to stand for. But when it comes to the actual fighting...
Are we really any better?
War.... War never changes..... |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
173
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:34:00 -
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Markuss Sephyl wrote:Are we really any better? Different peoples live in different ways. Who is right and who is wrong is difficult to tell-- if the universe cares, or even notices, it does not voice its thoughts.
That it is unclear who is "better" does not prevent us from wishing one another harm, of course.
Decide what it is that you care for, and fight for that, soldier, but it's best not to expect the gods to speak up in praise of your actions. There is enough human motive for violent death in this world.
To the rest of your reflections, there is a word for what we are: "infomorph," an entity defined by the information it contains. We are a purer form of such a being than the capsuleers, who are confined, mostly, to a particular line of clones, and degrade a little with repeated copying. Yet they are probably better prepared for it: the training a capsuleer must undergo to prepare to use "jump clones"-- voluntary consciousness transfer-- is a skillsoft called "infomorph psychology." It's meant to help the capsuleer cope with the psychological strangeness of the shift.
That we lack such training seems a bit of a cruel joke.
Respectfully, it may be best not to dwell too long on issues of identity. Your information is what defines you, now, or might as well be.
You are what you are, soldier. There is no need to court madness by insisting on answers that do not exist. |
Lynch Boletarias
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:09:00 -
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Have you ever stopped to think that the original version of you is being held in a specialized container somewhere? The real you. The one that holds the scars that chronicles your life before the implants. Think about that. If all else fails, if we are Given the choice of putting down our weapons and leading a better life. Do we have something like ourselves to go back to? |
21yrOld Knight
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:26:00 -
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( how did you get into the Brutor Vanguard when your avatar is caldari ) |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
173
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Posted - 2013.08.08 22:51:00 -
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Lynch Boletarias wrote:Have you ever stopped to think that the original version of you is being held in a specialized container somewhere? The real you. The one that holds the scars that chronicles your life before the implants. Think about that. If all else fails, if we are Given the choice of putting down our weapons and leading a better life. Do we have something like ourselves to go back to? Respectfully, and speaking only for myself, soldier, the answer is "no." The body of my previous self cut her own throat to activate the implant and transfer me for the first time. Perhaps others had other ways of bringing about activation, but, in my own experience, there was no way to proceed other than to accept death, as I have accepted it many times since.
It was possibly the hardest single thing I have ever had to do. It put a lot of things into perspective. |
Jedah McClintock
McClintock's Mercs
40
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:27:00 -
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Why did you become a mercenary in the first place? Was it for ideology? Was it for money? Was it for adventure? I'm not being rhetorical, I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from. You're talking in vague and abstract terms about existence but who are you? |
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Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions
37
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Posted - 2013.08.09 03:08:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Lynch Boletarias wrote:Have you ever stopped to think that the original version of you is being held in a specialized container somewhere? The real you. The one that holds the scars that chronicles your life before the implants. Think about that. If all else fails, if we are Given the choice of putting down our weapons and leading a better life. Do we have something like ourselves to go back to? Respectfully, and speaking only for myself, soldier, the answer is "no." The body of my previous self cut her own throat to activate the implant and transfer me for the first time. Perhaps others had other ways of bringing about activation, but, in my own experience, there was no way to proceed other than to accept death, as I have accepted it many times since. It was possibly the hardest single thing I have ever had to do. It put a lot of things into perspective. I know I partook in a Tea Maker Cerimony for activation. It was actually an otherwise pleasent experience. If you really want to return to a normal life... Or, at least what passes for normal... Than I would recommend simply clone jumping between leisure and combat clones at your convenience. There are stories of capsuleers who have successfully live multiple lives at once by clone hopping throughout the stars. I am sure we can do the same Lynch-haan. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1084
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Posted - 2013.08.09 03:15:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Lynch Boletarias wrote:Have you ever stopped to think that the original version of you is being held in a specialized container somewhere? The real you. The one that holds the scars that chronicles your life before the implants. Think about that. If all else fails, if we are Given the choice of putting down our weapons and leading a better life. Do we have something like ourselves to go back to? Respectfully, and speaking only for myself, soldier, the answer is "no." The body of my previous self cut her own throat to activate the implant and transfer me for the first time. Perhaps others had other ways of bringing about activation, but, in my own experience, there was no way to proceed other than to accept death, as I have accepted it many times since. It was possibly the hardest single thing I have ever had to do. It put a lot of things into perspective.
My own implant activation was also rather brutal, killed by a Matari soldier on Ammamake.... I was fortunate to discover that the implants I had been getting as a Sarum Imperial Guardsman were 4th generation sleeper implants. |
Markuss Sephyl
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.09 08:14:00 -
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Occasionally I dream of a hyper-realistic life within a Minmitar village. It doesn't really feel as if I was jumping, yet the sensations are so real... I wonder whether or not I really am visiting that village. It just seems "off". I'm so used to going into battle each day, and returning with a different clone's body, that I'm a bit sensitized to the concept of an actual life, outside the military.
I can't place the word I should use. Swapping bodies so frequently gets... Exhausting. Even though I have no concept of exhaustion, it still feels as if I'm dragging more than just mt conciousness to another clone, at times. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions
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Posted - 2013.08.09 08:43:00 -
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You can probably fix that with medication. |
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