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Icy Tiger
Red Star.
EoN.
1403
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Posted - 2013.08.08 04:17:00 -
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MD is fine. If it's above you it's OP. If it's under you it's UP. Anywhere else it's balanced.
The fact that we're still arguing about this after 6 builds is pathetic.
The fact that 90% of the people whining are shield tanked is pathetic.
The fact that they think a point and fire AR takes more skill is pathetic.
The fact that MD doesn't even have a proper scope is pathetic.
The fact that it's useless after 10 m unless you're on high ground is pathetic.
**** the forums I've come back to suck. |
RECON BY FIRE
Ancient Exiles
Negative-Feedback
238
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Posted - 2013.08.08 04:31:00 -
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Maybe Im missing something, but why would the Mass Driver have a scope? |
Zekain Kade
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1411
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Posted - 2013.08.08 04:40:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Maybe Im missing something, but why would the Mass Driver have a scope? because in verything needs a scope.
EVEN THE CURRENT SCOPES NEED SCOPES.
I WANT TO SCOPE IN WHILE I SCOPE IN!
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Icy Tiger
Red Star.
EoN.
1410
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Posted - 2013.08.08 05:54:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Maybe Im missing something, but why would the Mass Driver have a scope?
Scopes look cool. |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
93
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:03:00 -
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A properly scaled ADS reticle would help immensely. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
232
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:09:00 -
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All our QQ-ing has summoned Icy Tiger. I hope you fellow scrubs are happy with yourselves. This is what you learn when holding a cat by the tail. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
390
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:10:00 -
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NOOOOOO MD OP MD OP MD OPPPPP!!!!!!!!
-XOXO |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1668
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:10:00 -
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The fact you can spam it at the ground and kill guys just by getting lucky is pathetic
Most guns with AOE that dont have either a limited ROF or ammo count in an FPS are broken, in this game where you can get an explosion a second and carry an item that keeps restores you ammo supply it just becomes more broken |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2418
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:11:00 -
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But the MD killed my dropship :(
King of the Forums // Seraphim <3
Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here!
Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1539
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:11:00 -
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The mass driver itself may be fine, but explosives splash damage calculation and damage bonuses are not fine.
period.
This extends to grenades, flaylocks, missile turrets, REs, even swarm launchers (for the damage calcs)
Until splash damage is fixed, it will be abused and exploited until it is nerfed into the ground. Lets just look at missile turrets, REs, and contact grenades as examples of that. |
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Aquinarius Zoltanus
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
265
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:38:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:The mass driver itself may be fine, but explosives splash damage calculation and damage bonuses are not fine.
period.
This extends to grenades, flaylocks, missile turrets, REs, even swarm launchers (for the damage calcs)
Until splash damage is fixed, it will be abused and exploited until it is nerfed into the ground. Lets just look at missile turrets, REs, and contact grenades as examples of that.
Agreed, explosives need to be looked at as a whole. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
19
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Posted - 2013.08.08 19:03:00 -
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that is all people do in the forums. COMPLAiN. "SOMEONE KILLED ME WTH A GRENADE! IT'S OP! NERF IT NOW!!" I am surprised noone has posted a thread saying that Precision Strikes are OP! |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
200
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Posted - 2013.08.08 19:05:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:The fact you can spam it at the ground and kill guys just by getting lucky is pathetic
Most guns with AOE that dont have either a limited ROF or ammo count in an FPS are broken, in this game where you can get an explosion a second and carry an item that keeps restores you ammo supply it just becomes more broken
A mass driver has both of those...think before you say anything. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3338
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Posted - 2013.08.08 19:05:00 -
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it's the new FoTM... you expect it to NOT get nerfed? lol.... good one  |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
51
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Posted - 2013.08.08 19:07:00 -
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Dude, scopes need a nerf. Once the laser gets optics it'll be able to easily spot the ARs. Anything that kills and AR needs to be nerfed. By this logic scopes need a nerf because they enable the death of AR users. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1509
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Posted - 2013.08.08 19:37:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:The fact you can spam it at the ground and kill guys just by getting lucky is pathetic
Most guns with AOE that dont have either a limited ROF or ammo count in an FPS are broken, in this game where you can get an explosion a second and carry an item that keeps restores you ammo supply it just becomes more broken
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
Negative-Feedback
1319
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Posted - 2013.08.08 20:03:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:MD is fine. If it's above you it's OP. If it's under you it's UP. Anywhere else it's balanced.
The fact that we're still arguing about this after 6 builds is pathetic.
The fact that 90% of the people whining are shield tanked is pathetic.
The fact that they think a point and fire AR takes more skill is pathetic.
The fact that MD doesn't even have a proper scope is pathetic.
The fact that it's useless after 10 m unless you're on high ground is pathetic.
**** the forums I've come back to suck.
there is a light of hope in EoN yet... |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers
EoN.
687
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Posted - 2013.08.08 20:05:00 -
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lol gun with a 5m blast radius that deals enough damage to kill people in 1 clip with only splash, with the added bonus of enemy disorientating explosive effects and screen shake.
Also if you can't aim your MD past 10m then I can tell you why you don't think it's op..... |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
574
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Posted - 2013.08.08 20:07:00 -
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the only thing wrong with the MD is that it does the same damage at 1m as it does at 6m.
And the stupid screen shake.
Buff their ammo counts to compensate, i don't care. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers
EoN.
906
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Posted - 2013.08.08 20:08:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:MD is fine. If it's above you it's OP. If it's under you it's UP. Anywhere else it's balanced.
The fact that we're still arguing about this after 6 builds is pathetic.
The fact that 90% of the people whining are shield tanked is pathetic.
The fact that they think a point and fire AR takes more skill is pathetic.
The fact that MD doesn't even have a proper scope is pathetic.
The fact that it's useless after 10 m unless you're on high ground is pathetic.
**** the forums I've come back to suck.
Spoken like a true dual flaylocker  |
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Viktor Skirov
Heag Enterprises
29
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Posted - 2013.08.08 20:31:00 -
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Maybe I could be one of the No MD users who armor tanks and doesn't complain about it.
The issues with the mass drivers, is, as many have sayd, the explosive damage calculation, and the underpowered status of armor specialized suits in the game, but sometimes too, the reasoning skills of the players, many of us tends to fall on the same hole twice before saying, I better find another way. (In Dust language... CCP NERF THAT HOLE NOW!, MY LOGISTIC SUIT WITH 9992390 SHIELDS AND 30 ARMOR SHOULD NOT FALL IN THERE!).
Sometimes, on my perspective, I notice that when I get killed by a forge gunner (it just need a projectile with a variable trajectory and dispersion of 10 meters every 5 meters starting at 35 meters... Or that's what I believe, anyone can correct me).
Or by a Mass Driver user, sometimes is by my own fault, by getting.g there over, and over, and over again, instead of countering him/her. Every weapon have a counter, and troubles must not get solved by only a team of people working on screens (actually, yes, but only general problems, the mass driver is just over used) snipe the user, or, when bomber dropships comes in, clear the area, even with plasma cannons, that can be done... No idea about what can be done with ammo, don't think that has to be nerfed.
That's what I believe about these things, correct me if i'm wrong, I won't be upset about that. |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2013.08.08 21:06:00 -
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NO issue with MD, I counter when i can with upclose and personl SMG bullets to the face but the smoke in CQC is way too much. |
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