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        |  pdiddy anfama
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:11:00 -
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 I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them.
 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 5672
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:13:00 -
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 I've chosen to not drink the punch.
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1313
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:13:00 -
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 pdiddy anfama wrote:I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them. 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
 
 +1 sir, for a post that takes the long view, not the short one.
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1313
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:14:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:I've chosen to not drink the punch. 
 Suicide is never the answer.
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        |  ZDub 303
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 1528
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:14:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:I've chosen to not drink the punch. 
 +1, The kool aid is strong in this one (the op)
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        |  Surt gods end
 Demon Ronin
 
 784
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:15:00 -
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 By many years I'm guessing your not meaning on the PS3.
 
 10 year plan to finally get it right on ps3.
 then another 10 years to get it right on ps4 or pc cause old consoles don't have 10 year life cycles after new console drops. Unless you count 1000- players a alive.
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        |  pdiddy anfama
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:15:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:I've chosen to not drink the punch. 
 I believe the chosen drink was koolaid for that massive suicide.
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        |  pdiddy anfama
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:16:00 -
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 Surt gods end wrote:By many years I'm guessing your not meaning on the PS3. 
 10 year plan to finally get it right on ps3.
 then another 10 years to get it right on ps4 or pc cause old consoles don't have 10 year life cycles after new console drops. Unless you count 1000- players a alive.
 
 This is a cross platform game. Don't you think it will be cross platform on the playstation side.
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        |  A'Real Fury
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 340
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:18:00 -
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 That may be true and I look forward to that day. However, Eve survived because of the subscriptions but I suspect booster sales on Dust 514 is dropping as evidenced by the increase in x3 and x2 SP events.
 
 So I hope Dust 514 survives but I believe CCPs hold on the dust player base is far weaker than it was for Eve.
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        |  Protocake JR
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 441
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:20:00 -
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 pdiddy anfama wrote:I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them. 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
 
 I hope you are right but there is one major difference between EVE and DUST,
 
 EVE wasn't saturated with competition.
 
 Dust IS saturated with competition.
 
 For this only reason, I believe the Dust does not have the luxury of waiting YEARS to get better. Dust can be forgotten in YEARS. Outlook for Dust is sketchy, hopefully the restructuring CCP did with their DEVs will help push Dust in the right direction..... but I wouldn't be too surprised if Dust ended up having the same fate as MAG or Section 8.
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        |  Promethius Franklin
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 151
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:21:00 -
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 ZDub 303 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I've chosen to not drink the punch. +1, The kool aid is strong in this one (the op) Question for you, if you don't like the game as it is now and don't believe in the way CCP does things, thus giving little hope for the future, why hang around here? Why post or even log in to AFK for SP and isk on a product you don't have any faith in and don't enjoy?
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        |  Chunky Munkey
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 1081
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:21:00 -
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 How many people will be turned off by the game we have now?
 If a year gives us a better game, it also gives us a few thousand people who will never touch it again.
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        |  pdiddy anfama
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:22:00 -
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 Protocake JR wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them. 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
 I hope you are right but there is one major difference between EVE and DUST, EVE wasn't saturated with competition.  Dust IS saturated with competition.  For this only reason, I believe the Dust does not have the luxury of waiting YEARS to get better. Dust can be forgotten in YEARS. Outlook for Dust is sketchy, hopefully the restructuring CCP did with their DEVs will help push Dust in the right direction..... but I wouldn't be too surprised if Dust ended up having the same fate as MAG or Section 8.  
 My point is Eve is has fierce competition right now if one were to start playing Eve. The new player will grind just as new players do in dust.
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        |  pdiddy anfama
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:25:00 -
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 Chunky Munkey wrote:How many people will be turned off by the game we have now?If a year gives us a better game, it also gives us a few thousand people who will never touch it again.
 
 The same reason why people left Eve and then went back after they found out "crap I screwed up now this game is awesome and I have to start over" except with dust they will come back with a world of sp from passive gain and be a viable player.
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        |  hooc order
 Deep Space Republic
 Top Men.
 
 808
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:27:00 -
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 Your premise makes the assumption that EvE is a good game.
 
 I reject that assumption.
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 5674
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:27:00 -
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 Promethius Franklin wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I've chosen to not drink the punch. +1, The kool aid is strong in this one (the op) Question for you, if you don't like the game as it is now and don't believe in the way CCP does things, thus giving little hope for the future, why hang around here? Why post or even log in to AFK for SP and isk on a product you don't have any faith in and don't enjoy? And miss the chance to see the live reinactment of the Titantic?
 
 Not a chance in Hell.
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        |  pdiddy anfama
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:29:00 -
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 hooc order wrote:Your premise makes the assumption that EvE is a good game.
 I reject that assumption.
 
 
 Eve just been around ten years. Nope, they don't make enough to stay open for business.
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        |  ZDub 303
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 1529
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:30:00 -
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 Promethius Franklin wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I've chosen to not drink the punch. +1, The kool aid is strong in this one (the op) Question for you, if you don't like the game as it is now and don't believe in the way CCP does things, thus giving little hope for the future, why hang around here? Why post or even log in to AFK for SP and isk on a product you don't have any faith in and don't enjoy? 
 I'm here because I do enjoy the game, and I enjoy playing with my corp in PC (seriously, best multiplayer group i've ever played with period, and i've played the raiding game in quite a few MMORPGs).
 
 However, my time here is probably limited, im burned out and my patience is wearing thin. Plus im not particularly interested in the PS4, and I don't suspect this game will ever make it to the PC. Unless CCP decides they don't like sony after all and pull out of PSN (yaaaay lol).
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        |  Promethius Franklin
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 151
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:33:00 -
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 hooc order wrote:Your premise makes the assumption that EvE is a good game.
 I reject that assumption.
 Your rejection apparently has no bearing on those who do find the game enjoyable and have allowed it to continue operation for 10 years.
 
 
 DUST Fiend wrote:And miss the chance to see the live reinactment of the Titantic?
 Not a chance in Hell.
 Fascinating, and what if it doesn't ultimately fail?
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        |  pdiddy anfama
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:33:00 -
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 We need to stop the nerf this nerf that crap, and let them work on new product. We keep taking up their resources to rewrite code for nerf QQers. Ask them to take a look at balancing then move on.
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        |  hooc order
 Deep Space Republic
 Top Men.
 
 809
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 21:58:00 -
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 pdiddy anfama wrote:hooc order wrote:Your premise makes the assumption that EvE is a good game.
 I reject that assumption.
 Eve just been around ten years. Nope, they don't make enough to stay open for business. 
 So Dust like EvE will eventually become a game that "stays open for business"....
 
 gee...
 
 The future is so bright I have to wear shades.
 
 Note: The future = the life cycle of the PS3...which is moribund in 1 year and in the grave in 3.
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        |  Delta 749
 Kestrel Reconnaissance
 
 1665
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:06:00 -
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 pdiddy anfama wrote:Protocake JR wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them. 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
 I hope you are right but there is one major difference between EVE and DUST, EVE wasn't saturated with competition.  Dust IS saturated with competition.  For this only reason, I believe the Dust does not have the luxury of waiting YEARS to get better. Dust can be forgotten in YEARS. Outlook for Dust is sketchy, hopefully the restructuring CCP did with their DEVs will help push Dust in the right direction..... but I wouldn't be too surprised if Dust ended up having the same fate as MAG or Section 8.  My point is Eve is has fierce competition right now if one were to start playing Eve. The new player will grind just as new players do in dust. 
 Hes talking about competition from other games
 When EVE was first released there were other MMOs sure but none in its niche of spaceships and what not
 Dust has tooooooooons of competition since there are many many sci fi themed FPS games out there which offer a more polished gaming experience without having content time locked behind months of waiting
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        |  Mobius Wyvern
 Guardian Solutions
 
 2936
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:13:00 -
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 pdiddy anfama wrote:I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them. 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
 Hell, that's why I'm here. If this were being made by any other company, I would have bailed months ago.
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        |  Maximus Stryker
 Villore Sec Ops
 Gallente Federation
 
 583
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:16:00 -
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 pdiddy anfama wrote:I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them. 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
 I hope you are right, I fear you are wrong. Time will tell.
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
 3961
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:18:00 -
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 EVE = Final Fantasy 1-12
 
 Dust = Final Fantasy Mystic Quest and Final Fantasy 13
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        |  KING SALASI
 MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
 
 195
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:21:00 -
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 Dust will not survive on console with the Eve approach of developing. Dust should be on PC where CCP can develop with the slow Eve approach in the end CCP will be left with EVE players who purchased PS3's to play dust.
 
 That wasn't the objective the objective was to attract the console player market. They failed on that objective so far.
 
 CCP will have to relaunch dust with at least 90% of content along with a better system to retain players once they join.
 
 They launched Dust with 10% content on a console that is a death sentence. Hence why EP was let go the gaming community world wide said Dust is garbage.
 
 So far Dust keeps going backwards with every update example Flaylock internal testing said it was great. They release it to the masses then CCP nerfs it.
 
 They can not continue with that pattern with the current SP system in place with no respec option. This game is a grind due to that alone console players will not stay.
 
 To me CCP doesn't understand how the console market works they need to hire folks who fully understands how the console market works in order for Dust to be successful in the future.
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        |  Promethius Franklin
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 152
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:21:00 -
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 hooc order wrote:pdiddy anfama wrote:hooc order wrote:Your premise makes the assumption that EvE is a good game.
 I reject that assumption.
 Eve just been around ten years. Nope, they don't make enough to stay open for business. So Dust like EvE will eventually become a game that "stays open for business".... gee... The future is so bright I have to wear shades. Note: The future = the life cycle of the PS3...which is moribund in 1 year and in the grave in 3. Stays open for business, continues development, still has a yearly celebration of it's game and community that sees increasing attendance over the years, grows population, you know, all those things that indicate a healthy game.
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 7044
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:23:00 -
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 /me wonders how many people play call of duty 1 multiplayer still...
 
 Worst competition for most shooters... are their own sequels.
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        |  Mac Dac
 Wraith Shadow Guards
 
 126
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:32:00 -
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 pdiddy anfama wrote:I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them. 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
 Your new. I can tell. So let me tell you how Dust 514 is different from EVE.
 
 Dust 514 has a way of breaking ones sprit in more ways then one.
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        |  low genius
 the sound of freedom
 Renegade Alliance
 
 260
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 22:38:00 -
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 pdiddy anfama wrote:I think we will see Dust develop like eve. CCP doesn't have the resources to make the best fps. So what do they do. They create a mediocre game that will get them some funds to continue the programming process. They will build and build until they have a viable game as EVE is. Their base players will still be here. Just as EVE's base stuck by them. 
 So what do we have to look forward to. Progress is what we have to look forward to. This game will be developed for many years. Hence the continuous patches. Right now it's meh. But in the long run they will eventually have built a planetary conquest that matters. A game that you can actually be happy playing and not feel like a grind fest unless your a noob.
 
 We will see a FPS unlike any other years from now.
 
 
 i'll be here as it becomes something amazing.
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