DUST Search - This event is punishing us!

ZDub 303 wrote:

meri jin wrote:

May be it is my fault. May be my English skills aren't as good as I was hoping they are, but I'm mature enough to try it one more time in another words. So ZDub 303, listen up.

Look at this please: Double Skill Point Event for August! http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/double-skill-point-event-for-august/

Look at the points:

Time GÇô August 7-14 from downtime to downtime.
The double skill point gain applies to all matches played in DUST 514 for the duration of the event.
Weekly skill point cap is set to 380,800 (that is double the normal 190,400!).
Passive skill point gain from matches are NOT doubled, this is to discourage AFK farming.
Active skill point gain is doubled! Your warpoints earned during the match will be doubled when it is converted into skill points.

As a normal player I get around 5000 SP, nearly every match.
Now that this event have started I'm earning around 6000 SP, nearly every match.

Did you see it? Without event 5000 SP, with the double SP event 6000 SP!
This is because of the last two points I have written above. So, for me to get the double amount of SP in this so called double SP event, I need to use a active skillbooster. And this is it what makes me so upset. That they cal it double SP event, but in real this is just a bold way to sell the boosters.

Look I get what you're saying man. You're saying that we have double cap but not double SP. This is the same thing we have about 10 other threads complaining about lol.

Yes, the idea of double SP/WP was a bad one.

I get what you are saying that the combination of active booster + double SP/WP can get you close to double SP per match. But whatever dude, it was another bad idea... hopefully they will learn from it and we can move on.

Do what the rest of us are doing and afk for twice as long or don't play at all.


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meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 218	Posted - 2013.08.07 15:26:00 - [1] - Quote I earn 1700 WP in my first match today, and I was so happy to see my Skillpoints until the moment they show up. Only 6000 SP for earning 1700 WP? Are you ******* kidding my? I earn in regular matches around 5000 SP with less then 1000 WP and you call this a "2x SP event"? I call it bullshit! Why? Well, the only way for me to get the double SP from my regular SP which is 5000SP is by purchasing a active skill booster. This way, and only this way I could have had around 10K SP after the 1700WP match. You told us, that you don't double the passive SP in a match, only double the amount of SP which you get from WP to punish or prevent the AFK people. Well guess what!? There is still a crap ton of people afk in the mcc or on the field not moving! The only people you have punished are the one without a active skillbooster, and that is the ugly truth! TL:TR it is only double SP if you use active skillboosters.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 218	Posted - 2013.08.07 15:39:00 - [2] - Quote I don't care about the cap! I nearly never have the time to cap out the normal SP. This time I was thinking that I can at last earn some SP. You know? like playing effective, more SP per minute. The thing is: Me and my RL buddies dated this event, we talked to our women to have a day off to play together. We are pissed and offline now. One buddy was even pissed at me, because it was my idea to meet online today. "Bla bla bla I could be out with my kids at the park now bla bla bla". Like its my fault.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 218	Posted - 2013.08.07 15:45:00 - [3] - Quote MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote: The simple solution would be to just get rid of the cap, but no that cant happen for some stupid BS reason and a ignorant playerbase who insist the cap is a good thing. The cap IS a good thing! If its for me, I would remove the active SP totally!
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 220	Posted - 2013.08.07 16:09:00 - [4] - Quote Is there anything that CCP can do right without ******* it up a hundred times before ?
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 220	Posted - 2013.08.07 16:28:00 - [5] - Quote lrian Locust wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: [quote=meri jin]IAlso, what if they could adjust the passive SP income rate based on where you were on the map? What if it was 2 SP in the redline, and then 7 SP within 100m of an objective. So the closer and more time spent fighting around an objective the better you did? That would suck for the snipers that really want to make a difference and go hunting. You don't have to be near an objective to soften the assault, get rid of enemy campers or headshot those trying to hack your null cannon. How about just nerfing SP inside the MCC for a start? I think that your SP rewards should be more based on achieved war points. The better you get at your game, the faster you collect WP and lessen the grind. If you getting Pubstomped, this would mean you have no WP. The Corp don't get WP because the public's are not fighting, and the the public don't get WP, obviously.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 220	Posted - 2013.08.07 16:45:00 - [6] - Quote Jaqen Morghalis wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: AFK'ing like a boss, and now I get to do it twice as long. Sorry, but trying to "force" people out of AFK won't work, especially when you now get a whopping 2 SP per WP instead of 1. Try making the game more fun to play so we won't want to AFK instead of trying to brute force us out of the MCC. Who ever said that the purpose of this event was to "force people out of the MCC" or to "punish" anybody? Maybe CCP just thought it would be nice to give us a double XP event but, in light of how many people simply AFKed the last time, arranged this event so that AFKing would be less effective? And what we are getting is a "double-SP-event-only-for-active-boosters.-PS:-you-can-still-afk,-but-make-it-double!"
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 220	Posted - 2013.08.07 17:05:00 - [7] - Quote Jaqen Morghalis wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works then, because I was under the impression that PASSIVE SP gain (from sitting in the MCC, for example) wasn't doubled and that only ACTIVE SP gain was? Regardless, my comment was more for a clarification of the PURPOSE of the event (that it was somehow meant as a means to prevent AFKing), rather than how it works. All I meant was that, just because they have set it up in a way that they hope to discourage AFKing during the event, doesn't necessarily mean that discouraging AFKing is the REASON for the event. I unterstand you very well now. And still this so called "event" only serves the hardcore players.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 220	Posted - 2013.08.07 17:16:00 - [8] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: meri jin wrote: Jaqen Morghalis wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: AFK'ing like a boss, and now I get to do it twice as long. Sorry, but trying to "force" people out of AFK won't work, especially when you now get a whopping 2 SP per WP instead of 1. Try making the game more fun to play so we won't want to AFK instead of trying to brute force us out of the MCC. Who ever said that the purpose of this event was to "force people out of the MCC" or to "punish" anybody? Maybe CCP just thought it would be nice to give us a double XP event but, in light of how many people simply AFKed the last time, arranged this event so that AFKing would be less effective? And what we are getting is a "double-SP-event-only-for-active-boosters.-PS:-you-can-still-afk,-but-make-it-double!" Active boosters do absolute nothing to the cap, you DO NOT reach the cap faster with an active booster on. I ******* know that! And I was talking about that I would need a active skillbooster to get the double SP in this event. Do you even read the first posting?
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 221	Posted - 2013.08.07 17:35:00 - [9] - Quote I'm (still) not talking about the cap here! This should be a double SP and a double cap event. In order to get the double SP I need to use active booster, because I only get slightly more SP that i would do regularly.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 223	Posted - 2013.08.07 18:37:00 - [10] - Quote Are you people ******? I'm not talking about that skill boosters bring some one faster to the cap. I'm not even talking about the cap! FFS! I'm talking about the double active SP via the WP in a match! In a regular match, without the event, I'm making around 5000 SP. (and I could make another 2500 with a booster) In this event I'm making around 6xxx SP, even with 1700 WP. (and I could make another 4000 with a booster) Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo to get the DOUBLE SP in this DOUBLE SP event who is called "Double Skill Point Event for August" The double skill point gain applies to all matches played in DUST 514 for the duration of the event. Source I need to use an active booster! Because: 6xxx + 4xxx = 1xxxx <= 10000 SP. 10000 is double of my regular 5000 SP, you get it? Or should I draw you a *** picture? 10000 would be the double amount of my regular SP (I know I repeat myself, but you seems to need it in order to understand it). This so called double SP event only works for me if I use the booster. Otherwise it is only a "Slightly more SP event in August". And shut the ** up about the cap, I don't care about it, I don't talk about it, not even a little! I rarely manage to cap out the normal amount, this huge amount is even beyond! I have to be job less or alone to make that happen.

meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 223	Posted - 2013.08.07 18:44:00 - [11] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: meri jin wrote: Are you people ******? I'm not talking about that skill boosters bring some one faster to the cap. I'm not even talking about the cap! FFS! I'm talking about the double active SP via the WP in a match! In a regular match, without the event, I'm making around 5000 SP. (and I could make another 2500 with a booster) In this event I'm making around 6xxx SP, even with 1700 WP. (and I could make another 4000 with a booster) Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo to get the DOUBLE SP in this DOUBLE SP event who is called "Double Skill Point Event for August" The double skill point gain applies to all matches played in DUST 514 for the duration of the event. Source I need to use an active booster! Because: 6xxx + 4xxx = 1xxxx <= 10000 SP. 10000 is double of my regular 5000 SP, you get it? Or should I draw you a *** picture? 10000 would be the double amount of my regular SP (I know I repeat myself, but you seems to need it in order to understand it). This so called double SP event only works for me if I use the booster. Otherwise it is only a "Slightly more SP event in August". And shut the ** up about the cap, I don't care about it, I don't talk about it, not even a little! I rarely manage to cap out the normal amount, this huge amount is even beyond! I have to be job less or alone to make that happen. So first... 6000 * 1.5 = 9000 not 10000. Which is gasp 50% more SP!? Just like it has always been!? So wtf are you even talking about? You are just ranting about nothing at this point. I think it clear who is the ret arded one in this thread. So first, learn to read, you still seems to have some problems there.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 224	Posted - 2013.08.07 18:56:00 - [12] - Quote May be it is my fault. May be my English skills aren't as good as I was hoping they are, but I'm mature enough to try it one more time in another words. So ZDub 303, listen up. Look at this please: Double Skill Point Event for August! http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/double-skill-point-event-for-august/ Look at the points: Time GÇô August 7-14 from downtime to downtime. The double skill point gain applies to all matches played in DUST 514 for the duration of the event. Weekly skill point cap is set to 380,800 (that is double the normal 190,400!). Passive skill point gain from matches are NOT doubled, this is to discourage AFK farming. Active skill point gain is doubled! Your warpoints earned during the match will be doubled when it is converted into skill points. As a normal player I get around 5000 SP, nearly every match. Now that this event have started I'm earning around 6000 SP, nearly every match. Did you see it? Without event 5000 SP, with the double SP event 6000 SP! This is because of the last two points I have written above. So, for me to get the double amount of SP in this so called double SP event, I need to use a active skillbooster. And this is it what makes me so upset. That they cal it double SP event, but in real this is just a bold way to sell the boosters.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 224	Posted - 2013.08.07 19:04:00 - [13] - Quote Playing DarkSouls right now.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 225	Posted - 2013.08.07 19:40:00 - [14] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: meri jin wrote: May be it is my fault. May be my English skills aren't as good as I was hoping they are, but I'm mature enough to try it one more time in another words. So ZDub 303, listen up. Look at this please: Double Skill Point Event for August! http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/double-skill-point-event-for-august/ Look at the points: Time GÇô August 7-14 from downtime to downtime. The double skill point gain applies to all matches played in DUST 514 for the duration of the event. Weekly skill point cap is set to 380,800 (that is double the normal 190,400!). Passive skill point gain from matches are NOT doubled, this is to discourage AFK farming. Active skill point gain is doubled! Your warpoints earned during the match will be doubled when it is converted into skill points. As a normal player I get around 5000 SP, nearly every match. Now that this event have started I'm earning around 6000 SP, nearly every match. Did you see it? Without event 5000 SP, with the double SP event 6000 SP! This is because of the last two points I have written above. So, for me to get the double amount of SP in this so called double SP event, I need to use a active skillbooster. And this is it what makes me so upset. That they cal it double SP event, but in real this is just a bold way to sell the boosters. Look I get what you're saying man. You're saying that we have double cap but not double SP. This is the same thing we have about 10 other threads complaining about lol. Yes, the idea of double SP/WP was a bad one. I get what you are saying that the combination of active booster + double SP/WP can get you close to double SP per match. But whatever dude, it was another bad idea... hopefully they will learn from it and we can move on. Do what the rest of us are doing and afk for twice as long or don't play at all. You're cool after all.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 232	Posted - 2013.08.08 06:20:00 - [15] - Quote Ok, my rage is over now that I slept one night,time to get constructive. I feel that this event completely misses the goal. Actually it serves only the very active players. Casual gamers have no benefit from the double cap, they never manage to use the normal cap till the end and the double on? Well you know the answer. I know I said I will be constructive but the GÇ£double SPGÇ¥ is a joke. This event should have never named itself as a double SP event to avoid the confusion. Whoever is responsible for this should read all the critics and lean as much as possible. For example that people get angry if you tell them they get the double SP in the first place, but there is no double SP. My personal rage could have been completely avoided with some easy rules: DonGÇÖt call it double SP event. DonGÇÖt tell us in the very first bullet point that we get double SP. If you do one of the things from point 1. and 2. give us the double SP actually. Double SP, is the earned SP in a match 2 and NOT the way you did it this time. DonGÇÖt please just donGÇÖt double the cap. A double one serves only the very active players and punishing the casual gamers. The gab will become bigger, casuals will become more frustrated. DonGÇÖt get me wrong, IGÇÖm not trying to make this game casual friendly only. Belief it or not, I try to make it attractive for both parties. As this game is now, it servers the only the very active. The passive SP is way too low to have a continuous progress. IGÇÖm not saying that the passive SP should be extremely high, no. But after the change of the skilltree the amount of SP needed just rise exorbitant. Casuals donGÇÖt have a working academy to help then, there is no matchmaking, no motivation, casuals get destroyed and quit this game for very good reason. ItGÇÖs unplayebale for the very most of them. I know that. I have a huge RL friends pool with a PS3 and no one is playing this game for several reasons. I named them. This is the first time I say this out loud: CCP whoever is responsible for balancing the game in terms academy, SP, skills, SP gain, SP events, the needs of different player bases* should think about changing his passion?
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 235	Posted - 2013.08.09 04:17:00 - [16] - Quote I have tried afk'ing yesterday, and it feels just wrong, and I feel bad about it. Sorry to every buddy who was on my side yesterday.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 235	Posted - 2013.08.09 06:04:00 - [17] - Quote Death Dealer86 wrote: I think ccp enjoys reading all of our rants. Notice how nobody from ccp has commented or posted to all of the negative feedback? This event is pathetic and its even more pathetic that somebody was paid cash money to create this hitstorm! Of course they donGÇÖt comment in rage posts, thatGÇÖs the best strategy, if they would write one single comment, the topics would blow up. I donGÇÖt even want them to replay, IGÇÿm personally completely satisfied if the read a little. But what do you mean that somebody got paid? Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:* I have never hit my weekly cap. Ever. My friend has hit it a couple of times. He has 3 million SP more than me but I don't care. I still have better stats than him (and I run a 5,800 isk suit). I don't know what this story has to do with anything. oh yeah! Double SP week was such a tease. I average about 4000 to 5000 on a regular day and, well, on Double SP week I average a little bit more but NOT 8000 to 10,000 as I thought I would. Oh well. I'll have an awesome merc about this time next year. Thank you passive SP. Cheer up buddy. Not the passive SP is the problem you know? I played eve for about five years now. And the passive SP was more a good old friend to me rather than someone who limits me. The biggest difference in EVE is that it does not matter how big or small your SP number is, in EVE there is always the right content for you SP level.