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          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 13:59:00 -
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          I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche. | 
      
      
      
          
          Ploo-Koon 
          Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:03:00 -
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          I love cooking roof dwellers. And the best part is they stay still for some reason. | 
      
      
      
          
          Knight Soiaire 
          Better Hide R Die
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:06:00 -
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          HA!
  Roof campers, cant wait to get my Proto Sniper.
  Then all roof campers will die   | 
      
      
      
          
          Justin Tymes 
          Raymond James Corp
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:10:00 -
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          Bad MD user is bad. Unless it's a proto head shot, you should not be dying when you have height advantage with the MD. | 
      
      
      
          
          Kinky Burrito 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:12:00 -
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  
  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right? | 
      
      
      
          
          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:15:00 -
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          Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?   Nah, just means I used my weapon to counter his. AR is not the answer to everything. Nice try though. | 
      
      
      
          
          Knight Soiaire 
          Better Hide R Die
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:17:00 -
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          Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  
  When he said laxored, I assume he was referring to the Laser.
  Laser = OP
  Wat? | 
      
      
      
          
          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:18:00 -
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          Knight Soiaire wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  When he said laxored, I assume he was referring to the Laser. Laser = OP Wat?   I misread it at first, but I think he meant "I killed a guy that was using an OP weapon, that means it's not OP, right?" | 
      
      
      
          
          Justin Tymes 
          Raymond James Corp
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:20:00 -
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          Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  
  Lol at the MD being OP. Get better | 
      
      
      
          
          Kasote Denzara 
          A Vulture
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:22:00 -
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          I'm not going to bother quoting the various people.
  MD is not overpowered, it's skill lacking though. Get good MDers, use Plasma Cannon. :> | 
      
      
      
          
          Kinky Burrito 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 14:54:00 -
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          Justin Tymes wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  Lol at the MD being OP. Get better   
  I didn't say I had problems killing them, I said they're OP, because they are with the current mechanics. Maybe once the aiming changes go into effect, things will be different. As it is, a MD user can dance all over the place with no loss of accuracy or damage output, while making themselves much harder to hit with the bad aiming and hit detection. But I digress, I'm explaining this to a nobody sucktard. | 
      
      
      
          
          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:00:00 -
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          Kinky Burrito wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  Lol at the MD being OP. Get better   I didn't say I had problems killing them, I said they're OP, because they are with the current mechanics. Maybe once the aiming changes go into effect, things will be different. As it is, a MD user can dance all over the place with no loss of accuracy or damage output, while making themselves much harder to hit with the bad aiming and hit detection. But I digress, I'm explaining this to a nobody sucktard.   Please don't pretend you're above us if the MD is this much of a threat to you. | 
      
      
      
          
          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Bojo's School of the Trades
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:03:00 -
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          I still can't stand the term "camper" It's a tactic. You could say the spartans were camping at Thermopylae. | 
      
      
      
          
          Bad Heal 
          ROGUE SPADES EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:06:00 -
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          Kinky Burrito wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  Lol at the MD being OP. Get better   I didn't say I had problems killing them, I said they're OP, because they are with the current mechanics. Maybe once the aiming changes go into effect, things will be different. As it is, a MD user can dance all over the place with no loss of accuracy or damage output, while making themselves much harder to hit with the bad aiming and hit detection. But I digress, I'm explaining this to a nobody sucktard.  
  Sounds like someone lost his proto to a MD a couple of times LOL boo who 
  I think AR is OP
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          Kinky Burrito 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:07:00 -
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  Lol at the MD being OP. Get better   I didn't say I had problems killing them, I said they're OP, because they are with the current mechanics. Maybe once the aiming changes go into effect, things will be different. As it is, a MD user can dance all over the place with no loss of accuracy or damage output, while making themselves much harder to hit with the bad aiming and hit detection. But I digress, I'm explaining this to a nobody sucktard.  Please don't pretend you're above us if the MD is this much of a threat to you.  
  Fine, I apologize, it's early and I'm cranky. The point still stands that it is bad game design. | 
      
      
      
          
          Justin Tymes 
          Raymond James Corp
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:09:00 -
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          Kinky Burrito wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  Lol at the MD being OP. Get better   I didn't say I had problems killing them, I said they're OP, because they are with the current mechanics. Maybe once the aiming changes go into effect, things will be different. As it is, a MD user can dance all over the place with no loss of accuracy or damage output, while making themselves much harder to hit with the bad aiming and hit detection. But I digress, I'm explaining this to a nobody sucktard.  
  That's the point, that's why the have less DPS then almost every weapon in the game. Get into CQC with them, get elevation against them, get outside of 40 meters, and you will see the MD weaknesses. Dont blame this on bad aiming, get better, this isn't AR 514, no matter how much you crybabies want it to be. | 
      
      
      
          
          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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          Kinky Burrito wrote:
  Fine, I apologize, it's early and I'm cranky. The point still stands that it is bad game design.
   Fair enough. I heard that we're getting aiming fixes come 1.4 though, so hopefully that alleviates the current tension we're seeing on the forums. | 
      
      
      
          
          J Lav 
          Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:16:00 -
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          The current tension is because people who value pinpoint accuracy don't feel that an explosive weapon requires any skill. The truth is it requires a different skill, one of anticipation and positioning, rather than strafe and track. They are different skills, and reward a different style of play. This is why it is a brilliant example of good game design to have weapons that are distinct and reward different play.
  The complaint is that MD users don't play like me, therefore it's bad - this based on perceived value and where it is placed.
  I know how to deal with MD's, but they will still get me sometimes because the guy using it is genuinely good at anticipating my moves, while lobbing their shots into difficult places. If I get directly hit by a MD or Flaylock, I don't care what you say, that takes skill. | 
      
      
      
          
          Kinky Burrito 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:17:00 -
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:
  Fine, I apologize, it's early and I'm cranky. The point still stands that it is bad game design.
  Fair enough. I heard that we're getting aiming fixes come 1.4 though, so hopefully that alleviates the current tension we're seeing on the forums.  
  Yes and that's why I wouldn't call for a nerf on it yet, things may be very different in 1.4. | 
      
      
      
          
          Knight Soiaire 
          Better Hide R Die
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:18:00 -
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  When he said laxored, I assume he was referring to the Laser. Laser = OP Wat?  I misread it at first, but I think he meant "I killed a guy that was using an OP weapon, that means it's not OP, right?"  
  Oh I see, I thought it was "I killed a guy using an OP weapon, by using an OP weapon"
  Lol, sorry, carry on.   | 
      
      
      
          
          Kinky Burrito 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:28:00 -
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          Justin Tymes wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  Lol at the MD being OP. Get better   I didn't say I had problems killing them, I said they're OP, because they are with the current mechanics. Maybe once the aiming changes go into effect, things will be different. As it is, a MD user can dance all over the place with no loss of accuracy or damage output, while making themselves much harder to hit with the bad aiming and hit detection. But I digress, I'm explaining this to a nobody sucktard.  That's the point, that's why the have less DPS then almost every weapon in the game. Get into CQC with them, get elevation against them, get outside of 40 meters, and you will see the MD weaknesses. Dont blame this on bad aiming, get better, this isn't AR 514, no matter how much you crybabies want it to be.  
  No it's not AR 514, it's explosive spam 514 and if trolls like you have your way, you will be sitting on a rooftop with no one to spam them at. There is a reason this game has an extremely low population that is getting smaller. Don't give me some crap about a niche game and HTFU or whatever, the entire reason they released on a console was because of the large user base. If they wanted a niche game that wasn't fun, they should have released it on PC. | 
      
      
      
          
          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:33:00 -
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          I'd think the solution to the explosive spam would be to make splash damage scale with the range from the explosion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the full splash damage is applied at all ranges from the center of the explosion. If the damage were to be reduced further from the center, It would reward good MD play and, at the same time, weed out those that use it because they have no gun game. | 
      
      
      
          
          Justin Tymes 
          Raymond James Corp
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:38:00 -
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          Kinky Burrito wrote:No it's not AR 514, it's explosive spam 514 and if trolls like you have your way, you will be sitting on a rooftop with no one to spam them at. There is a reason this game has an extremely low population that is getting smaller. Don't give me some crap about a niche game and HTFU or whatever, the entire reason they released on a console was because of the large user base. If they wanted a niche game that wasn't fun, they should have released it on PC.  
  Get better. The MD was more powerful in Chrome, and you never saw this much QQ. The population isn't getting smaller because of nerfed MDs, ninja nerfed REs, and Core Lotus Grenades that you have to cook.   | 
      
      
      
          
          gbh08 
          Pradox One
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:40:00 -
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          Im not crying nerf on the md
  but when you got a whole squad or more using this **** it gets a bit much, unless of course you camp outside there range and no doubt loose the match (skirm) 
  along with the nade spam, and recently forge spam, its become more like ohk514  
 
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          OZAROW 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:42:00 -
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I laxord his face off several times before he stopped using that uplink and spawned elsewhere.
  To the MD whiners - Learn your niche.  I killed a guy with an OP weapon. That means it's not OP, right?  Nah, just means I used my weapon to counter his. AR is not the answer to everything. Nice try though.   I don't know , um if I'm on manus peak an a guys standing at A an I die in three shots at B something's friggin up! | 
      
      
      
          
          Medic 1879 
          Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:55:00 -
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          Using tactic's to counter something! That is totally against the rules of AR514 if an enemy is unkillable with 2-3 shots from an AR they are clearly hackers/FOTM users and need a nerf. Suggesting outsmarting/outgunning them is not welcome here. | 
      
      
      
          
          Cat Merc 
          DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:57:00 -
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          That player must have sucked ass. When I have a MD and I'm on a roof, I'm like the king of the world, my only problem is snipers, until I find a roof that is untouchable   | 
      
      
      
          
          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 15:58:00 -
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          Medic 1879 wrote:Using tactic's to counter something! That is totally against the rules of AR514 if an enemy is unkillable with 2-3 shots from an AR they are clearly hackers/FOTM users and need a nerf. Suggesting outsmarting/outgunning them is not welcome here.   My apologies...
  *Throws on Cal Logi, Nanohive, flaylock, AR*
  *Ahem* NERF EVERYTHING THAT KILLS ME. BUFF ME. RESPEC OR I QUIT. | 
      
      
      
          
          Kinky Burrito 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I'd think the solution to the explosive spam would be to make splash damage scale with the range from the explosion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the full splash damage is applied at all ranges from the center of the explosion. If the damage were to be reduced further from the center, It would reward good MD play and, at the same time, weed out those that use it because they have no gun game.  
  The tricky thing is deciding on a gradient. Making the splash radius a 100%-0% scale would leave it very underpowered. Maybe something like 100-50%. | 
      
      
      
          
          Medic 1879 
          Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:Using tactic's to counter something! That is totally against the rules of AR514 if an enemy is unkillable with 2-3 shots from an AR they are clearly hackers/FOTM users and need a nerf. Suggesting outsmarting/outgunning them is not welcome here.  My apologies... *Throws on Cal Logi, Nanohive, Flaylock, AR* *Ahem* NERF EVERYTHING THAT KILLS ME. BUFF ME. RESPEC OR I QUIT.  
  Thats better you win AR514! Congratulations! | 
      
      
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