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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:05:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:The game modes are not hard to understand. It's standard cookie cutter capture control with lolMCC timers.
You need to be teaching players how to fit their suits. What skills to upgrade. Most people coming into this game are not going to know the difference between the shield recharger and shield regulator. The very first time I played this game, I explored the market and skill lists for probably about an hour or so before I actually began playing. That's way too long for a lot of people. And i'm sure it's even worse with the introduction of new modules, suits, and weapons.
Give back to the academy the rotation of ambush and skimish variants. It will look more presentable than what you have now. Work on better tutorials for upgrading skills (videos, not walls of text) and simplify the market place.
I highly disagree. I don't think its CCP job to do that. Hear me out before you spit out your drink. When I first played this game, I was a little overwhelmed. I didn't know exactly what I was looking at or how I wanted to build. I knew I wanted an assault guy but I didn't know how to exactly create that mercenary with the SP system.
So you know what my first thoughts were? Go to the forums and youtube. I did my homework. I read for hours and watched various videos. Also, my corporation extended a hand in helping me get adjusted to NE. I feel the hand holding by CCP is unnecessary. This is New Eden. You either learn how to survive or be swallowed up by it. That's why there are guides out there to help new mercs. It's on the merc to find that acquire that information. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
476
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:21:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:Sorry, you can't both advocate the learning cliff and then tell us that you used 3rd party resources to help you climb it.
I certainly see a role for 3rd party guides in helping players with the decision on the WHAT (how to play better or improve their skill/equipment choices) but not for how to understand the core concepts of HOW. HOW should definitely be handled by the in game client, through tutorials, better UI, etc.
Okay but I mentioned other things besides guides. I mentioned community. I mentioned corporation. I don't understand. I was able to learn through that process, how can it not be for others?
Also, do we really need to put that on CCP's platter? Isn't that just the way of Dust? I mean, EVE is pretty much the same way. There isn't a grand, detailed oriented in-game tutorial that explains all the nuances of that game. So why do we need this hand holding, leash the little kid affair?
If the community took more time in helping other mercs instead of complaining about every single thing, we would be ahead of the game. You want this, you want that. CCP do this. CCP do that.
Why can't the community help out??? What's the problem with that? In fact, the new ISK guide is out and its free to download. That's a comprehensive guide for people to use. What's wrong with that? Why are we asking CCP to take time out to create a massive tutorial in game? Shouldn't the time spent on making a tutorial, which ironically already has been done by other players if you look for it, be used for other important stuff?
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
476
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:24:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Michael Arck wrote:
I highly disagree. I don't think its CCP job to do that. Hear me out before you spit out your drink. When I first played this game, I was a little overwhelmed. I didn't know exactly what I was looking at or how I wanted to build. I knew I wanted an assault guy but I didn't know how to exactly create that mercenary with the SP system.
So you know what my first thoughts were? Go to the forums and youtube. I did my homework. I read for hours and watched various videos. Also, my corporation extended a hand in helping me get adjusted to NE. I feel the hand holding by CCP is unnecessary. This is New Eden. You either learn how to survive and be swallowed up by it. That's why there are guides out there to help new mercs. It's on the merc to find that acquire that information.
God, this type of mentality is getting old. Congratulations, you are part of the 1%. People need to stop treating this game as it's own grand universe when this game hasn't even begun to stand up on it's own. Nobody gives a **** if this is New Eden. Sorry to put it bluntly, but look at the player counts for yourself. Nobody cares. Treat this game as is. It's poorly designed, and if you don't go out of your way and look for second hand information, then you need to HTFU and GTFO of New Eden and find a new game to play (BF4/PS2).  Like I said. Bad game design.
Ok. So are you really adding something constructive to the table? Something that would better the experience of the new player??
Fortitude is a mentality that never gets old. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:45:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:@Michael
Much has already been said about what can be done to improve the new player experience. That's what we are trying to discuss.
You are the one who is offering nothing to the table other than "let the newbie scour the internet for information. DIS IS NEW EDEN!", information that should be easily available in-game.
You sound like one of those old 70 year olds who are "set in their ways". This is a video game. It can and will cease to exist if player counts keep dropping.
And you sound like you are still breastfed by your mother. What's your point? And yea I added something to the table...but uh, okay...whatever. You and the gloom and doom gang needs to do some physical activities or something next time summer comes around. |
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