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Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 03:20:00 -
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I had gunlogi worth 350000 isk and he had aurum advanced worth about 2 U.S, pennies (the proto type equivelent is worth 80000). I dont understand this bs even more because of the skills you have to obtain to get there. Although the AV guy uses about 100 thousand more sp than the tank guy(about 200 thousand less if aurum is used) the tank guy had to pay about 2 or 3 million isk to buy the skill books(i counted but i cant remember which of those it was) while the AV pays only 100 thousand isk to buy them. Also the tracer rounds on forge guns are almost imposible to see(that might be a bug). |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:04:00 -
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you only lost 350000 isk. i lost a tank worth of 740.000ISK to a proto breach forgegun. You can be happy that your tank didnt cost that much. |
GIZMO2606
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
293
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:21:00 -
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Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:22:00 -
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Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? |
LORD HUMPY
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:23:00 -
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Must have been a crappy fitting, never two hit a tank with a Breach Forge Gun in my life... |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:26:00 -
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my sica can take 3 shots. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:29:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. Which seems fair considering swarm launchers are pretty much useless against any pilot with half a brain. |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:31:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE?
If they're poorly tanked a stealth bomber can take out a BC in short order, especially if they get a chance to fire more than one bomb off, by for example not moving or trying to get out of the area. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:40:00 -
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Conraire wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? If they're poorly tanked a stealth bomber can take out a BC in short order, especially if they get a chance to fire more than one bomb off, by for example not moving or trying to get out of the area.
I love my Purifier. LOL
But as I pointed out in another post, besides rail and missile installations and vehicle mounted turrets, AV Grenades, SWARMS, and Forge guns... What else are tanks vulnerable to?
Heavy forge gunners are vulnerable to everything. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:00:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. ARs are anti infantry, does that mean it should kill infantry in two hits? if you said yes they you should go back to cod. |
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Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:02:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Conraire wrote:[quote=STB Vermaak Doe]Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? Heavy forge gunners are vulnerable to everything. BUULLLL **** |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:04:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? so yes i completely agree with you that it takes less time to get 3 million isk than it does to get 100,000 sp |
GIZMO2606
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
293
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:04:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. ARs are anti infantry, does that mean it should kill infantry in two hits? if you said yes they you should go back to cod.
LolCOD and seems someone is butthurt from losing 350,000 ISK
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Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:06:00 -
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LORD HUMPY wrote:Must have been a crappy fitting, never two hit a tank with a Breach Forge Gun in my life... i asumed it would have two hit if i didn't use my sheild hardeners(instead it 3 hit). also it was an assault forge gun (thats why i had no time to react) |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:06:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Conraire wrote:[quote=STB Vermaak Doe]Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? Heavy forge gunners are vulnerable to everything. BUULLLL ****
Use a blaster or missile main launcher and you'll see |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:08:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. Which seems fair considering swarm launchers are pretty much useless against any pilot with half a brain. ive explained this plenty of times but i will do it again...
explosive damage is not good against shields therefore it is quite obvious it would be bad. also you still fail to prove why it is fair. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:09:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? so yes i completely agree with you that it takes less time to get 3 million isk than it does to get 100,000 sp
Um it does for me and hace you maxed your defensive ( depending on tank) skills and are using the best mods you can?
Sorry for tipos |
GIZMO2606
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
293
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:14:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. Which seems fair considering swarm launchers are pretty much useless against any pilot with half a brain. ive explained this plenty of times but i will do it again... explosive damage is not good against shields therefore it is quite obvious it would be bad. also you still fail to prove why it is fair.
Standard Forge Gun damage = 1200 meaning it'll eat through your shield. Again butthurt over losing a few hundred thousands worth of ISK. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:15:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Conraire wrote:[quote=STB Vermaak Doe]Sp > isk or do stealth bombers not kill battlecruisers and battleships in EVE? Heavy forge gunners are vulnerable to everything. BUULLLL **** Use a blaster or missile main launcher and you'll see
Ah. Excuse me. A heavy forge gunner isn't vulnerable to SWARMS. But otherwise, we're vulnerable to all the same damage that other infantry are, we just take the beating a little bit better. Been OHKed by tanks on more than one occasion. LOL |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:17:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote: ARs are anti infantry, does that mean it should kill infantry in two hits? if you said yes they you should go back to cod.
Hellooooooo ?? AR fire 750 rounds per minute. Forge Gun need 3 seconds to charge one shot up. See the different ?
How about HAV ? They suppose to be anti-infantry, Should they be able to one shot any single infantry they come across ? They do atm. Are you saying you have a problem with this as well ?
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:24:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. Which seems fair considering swarm launchers are pretty much useless against any pilot with half a brain. ive explained this plenty of times but i will do it again... explosive damage is not good against shields therefore it is quite obvious it would be bad. also you still fail to prove why it is fair. Standard Forge Gun damage = 1200 meaning it'll eat through your shield. Again butthurt over losing a few hundred thousands worth of ISK.
Basic forge = 1200 4sec charge.
Assault forge = 1260 2.5 sec charge and does not store charge.
Breach forge = 2100 6 sec charge.
Not sure of the ones above that. And that's before the 30% damage bonus I get from weaponry 5 and the enhanced heavy weapon damage amplifier. |
GIZMO2606
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
293
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:24:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. Which seems fair considering swarm launchers are pretty much useless against any pilot with half a brain. ive explained this plenty of times but i will do it again... explosive damage is not good against shields therefore it is quite obvious it would be bad. also you still fail to prove why it is fair.
Also, please explain were it states the Forge Gun is explosive type damage? It's a rail gun that stores electrical charged kinetic slugs. |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
145
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:30:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:GIZMO2606 wrote:Forge Gun = Anti-Vehicle weapon. Get use to it, players have learned that the best way to take out vehicles is with a Forge Gun. Which seems fair considering swarm launchers are pretty much useless against any pilot with half a brain. ive explained this plenty of times but i will do it again... explosive damage is not good against shields therefore it is quite obvious it would be bad. also you still fail to prove why it is fair. Standard Forge Gun damage = 1200 meaning it'll eat through your shield. Again butthurt over losing a few hundred thousands worth of ISK. Basic forge = 1200 4sec charge. Assault forge = 1260 2.5 sec charge. Breach forge = 2100 6 sec charge. Not sure of the ones above that. And that's before the 30% damage bonus I get from weaponry 5 and the enhanced heavy weapon damage amplifier.
Weaponry 5 only give's you 10% damage boost they changed it to 2%per lvl from 5%
and normal forge gun is 3.5 charge up time |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:32:00 -
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Calgoth Reborn wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Basic forge = 1200 4sec charge.
Assault forge = 1260 2.5 sec charge.
Breach forge = 2100 6 sec charge.
Not sure of the ones above that. And that's before the 30% damage bonus I get from weaponry 5 and the enhanced heavy weapon damage amplifier. Weaponry 5 only give's you 10% damage boost they changed it to 2%per lvl from 5%
Well crap. (pout)
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RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:34:00 -
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there were two forge guns to take out 1 alright tank in 5 shots total.
I was one of those forge gunners. They are fine now with how many vehicles are used. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:53:00 -
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You bought a militia tank, pretty much an actual lav as far as durability goes |
immortal ironhide
SyNergy Gaming
80
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:04:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:you only lost 350000 isk. i lost a tank worth of 740.000ISK to a proto breach forgegun. You can be happy that your tank didnt cost that much.
yea that tank took awhile to take down. had my assault forge but wasnt doing enough damage before you got behind cover. you had an excellent fit on it i have to say. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
463
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:55:00 -
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350000 isk in a gunlogi fit? Your doing it wrong my sica fit is almost double that.
Also don't bring in what you can't afford to lose |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.20 12:12:00 -
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Depends
If i get whacked from somewhere and i dont have any active shield hardners on then it takes like half my shield health but if they are all active and shield rep is on its not too bad and i can take a couple or 3 but with forge its risky anyways
Also forge guns can take like over 1000 armor hp aswell and more ppl are using them but not just for AV but for infantry aswell |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.20 12:33:00 -
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A specced out tank is overpowered against infantry soldiers. You have to allow people to defend themselves.
So what is it? You want to pay a couple hundred thousand ISK for a vehicle that can never get destroyed and that destroys everything? |
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