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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
4499
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:30:00 -
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Was brought up in the main thread here, but it really could use it's own thread.
jackbubu wrote:just gonna leave this here Quote:Scout Suit Bonus: +10% bonus to PG/CPU cost of cloak field per level.
Amarr Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to cloak field cooldown per level. Caldari Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to firing cloak cost per level. Gallente Scout Bonus: +5% to dropsuit scan radius and 5% reduction to scan profile per level. Minmatar Scout Bonus: +5% to melee and nova knife damage per level.
http://i.imgur.com/BFTlfqn.jpg
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1780
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:32:00 -
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SIS wrote: Type ID: 28840
Name: Magic Crystal Ball
Description: Allows you to see into the future by looking for new TypeIDs on Singularity.
Warning: Side-effects may include speculation, jumping to conclusions, overanalysis, misunderstandings, unwarranted assumptions, ten-page forum threads, baseless concerns, undue panic, virtual stampedes, threadnaughts, premature account cancellation and unneeded developer stress. USE WITH CAUTION.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
821
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:32:00 -
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Lol @ everyone being too lazy to make the thread before you
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Jason Pearson
3816
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:32:00 -
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So Cloak is equipment that has to be fired? makes sense.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
2210
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:33:00 -
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wut.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
170
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:33:00 -
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I just wish for Minmatar they would make Nova Knifing part of melee damage, and give us the 5%, plus ability to use myofybril modules. This is the only thing that makes sense.
Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
4499
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:36:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:SIS wrote: Type ID: 28840
Name: Magic Crystal Ball
Description: Allows you to see into the future by looking for new TypeIDs on Singularity.
Warning: Side-effects may include speculation, jumping to conclusions, overanalysis, misunderstandings, unwarranted assumptions, ten-page forum threads, baseless concerns, undue panic, virtual stampedes, threadnaughts, premature account cancellation and unneeded developer stress. USE WITH CAUTION.
CCP has their own private internal server, Singularity however is their test server that the customers are specifically given access to in order to provide them feedback. Call it the crystal ball if you want, but if CCP didn't want our feedback then they would of never put this info on Singularity.
Roy Ventus wrote:Lol @ everyone being too lazy to make the thread before you I know, right? I was shocked no one made this thread, and even asked someone to please make it. Eventually I got tired of waiting so made it myself.
Jason Pearson wrote:So Cloak is equipment that has to be fired? makes sense. My guess is that there is a new "stamina bar" of sorts for the cloak, and moving and firing your weapon drains it. So Caldari's bonuses is to not drain the cloak so much from firing weapons.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
557
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:38:00 -
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Yes, give me that Caldari scout now! |
mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
215
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:44:00 -
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Wait, minny is losing its 5% profile reduction? |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
558
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:50:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Wait, minny is losing its 5% profile reduction?
What with that and the stats leaked for the new gallente logi - I honestly HOPE either scanners are being reworked or base profile Db is being reworked.
Also - If we are cloaked do we still show up on the scanners or not? I would hope not unless there is some extra information to come from CCP. |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2615
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:54:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:mr musturd wrote:Wait, minny is losing its 5% profile reduction? What with that and the stats leaked for the new gallente logi - I honestly HOPE either scanners are being reworked or base profile Db is being reworked. Also - If we are cloaked do we still show up on the scanners or not? I would hope not unless there is some extra information to come from CCP.
I hope not otherwise cloaking will be one of the most pointless things to skill into
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1727
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:56:00 -
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Dear ccp, cloaks are a terrible fking idea. Also making scout just 1 things aka a cloaking camper is giving up. CCP once again you try force players to play a game you want it to be instead of actually listening and trying to improve the ACTUAL game we play..
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
216
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:56:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:mr musturd wrote:Wait, minny is losing its 5% profile reduction? What with that and the stats leaked for the new gallente logi - I honestly HOPE either scanners are being reworked or base profile Db is being reworked. Also - If we are cloaked do we still show up on the scanners or not? I would hope not unless there is some extra information to come from CCP. I hope not otherwise cloaking will be one of the most pointless things to skill into Hmmm this minny suit just keeps getting better and better LOL |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
842
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:57:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:mr musturd wrote:Wait, minny is losing its 5% profile reduction? What with that and the stats leaked for the new gallente logi - I honestly HOPE either scanners are being reworked or base profile Db is being reworked. Also - If we are cloaked do we still show up on the scanners or not? I would hope not unless there is some extra information to come from CCP.
Since Cloacking is visual and scan is based on sound (decibels - dB) I would imagine that you show up on radar regaurdless of cloaking.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
842
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:00:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:mr musturd wrote:Wait, minny is losing its 5% profile reduction? What with that and the stats leaked for the new gallente logi - I honestly HOPE either scanners are being reworked or base profile Db is being reworked. Also - If we are cloaked do we still show up on the scanners or not? I would hope not unless there is some extra information to come from CCP. I hope not otherwise cloaking will be one of the most pointless things to skill into
Why, it's extreamly hard to hit what you can't see. Regardless of showing up on radar or not.
{:)}{3GÇó>
"I'm the Muther**er."
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
4503
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:02:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Dear ccp, cloaks are a terrible fking idea. Also making scout just 1 things aka a cloaking camper is giving up. CCP once again you try force players to play a game you want it to be instead of actually listening and trying to improve the ACTUAL game we play..
We don't know exactly how the cloak field will work yet, scouts aren't necessarily going to have to become campers.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1079
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:03:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Since Cloacking is visual and scan is based on sound (decibels - dB) I would imagine that you show up on radar regaurdless of cloaking.
Actually, decibels do not necessarily refer to sound. Decibels are simply a gain factor.
dB is also used in radar, power, and many other things.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
842
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:04:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Dear ccp, cloaks are a terrible fking idea. Also making scout just 1 things aka a cloaking camper is giving up. CCP once again you try force players to play a game you want it to be instead of actually listening and trying to improve the ACTUAL game we play..
Well, who exactly are the listen to? You? Me? Cause if they are listening to me, then they would think that cloacks are a good idea. So, who made you the king of ideas?
{:)}{3GÇó>
"I'm the Muther**er."
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1258
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:13:00 -
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Don't freak out too much.
Many crapper players would run to stealth suits in the orginal planetside. Some were amazing at it, most you could see a mile off, and they were pretty easy to kill.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1837
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:13:00 -
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With all of these changes, additions, and new stuff... I smell a release around the corner.
500 million isk says that it won't be called 1.8.
There might be a 1.8, but it won't include this stuff.
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
4512
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:22:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:With all of these changes, additions, and new stuff... I smell a release around the corner.
500 million isk says that it won't be called 1.8.
There might be a 1.8, but it won't include this stuff. You're probably right, I just hope they aren't going to arbitrarily hold off all this new content for a release date around Fan Fest.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
843
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:32:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Since Cloacking is visual and scan is based on sound (decibels - dB) I would imagine that you show up on radar regaurdless of cloaking. Actually, decibels do not necessarily refer to sound. Decibels are simply a gain factor. dB is also used in radar, power, and many other things.
I'm pretty sure it is based on sound because radar can't see through walls.
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"I'm the Mother**er."
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pseudosnipre
480
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:33:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Since Cloacking is visual and scan is based on sound (decibels - dB) I would imagine that you show up on radar regaurdless of cloaking. Actually, decibels do not necessarily refer to sound. Decibels are simply a gain factor. dB is also used in radar, power, and many other things. +1
Although lower is better for detection as most signatures are given in negative dB...
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
147
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:35:00 -
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Looks like with the introduction of Cloaking, the Minmatar Scout Bonus will finally make sense. |
pseudosnipre
480
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:37:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Since Cloacking is visual and scan is based on sound (decibels - dB) I would imagine that you show up on radar regaurdless of cloaking. Actually, decibels do not necessarily refer to sound. Decibels are simply a gain factor. dB is also used in radar, power, and many other things. I'm pretty sure it is based on sound because radar can't see through walls. LMAO!
Yes it can, walls just attenuate it! Did you even Google this first?!?!? This isn't even darpa tech, you could build it in your garage with horn apertures and a laptop...
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1082
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:42:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I'm pretty sure it is based on sound because radar can't see through walls.
Yes, radar can. Typically radar uses electromagnetic waves that have longer wavelengths than visible light. These waves are absorbed and reflected fairly easily because of it. However, electromagnetic waves with higher frequencies like X-rays and Gamma rays can pass through walls. But these are also just as likely to pass through our bodies as the wall.
Sound travels worse through solid objects than electromagnetic waves.
In truth, there is no real world explanation for how the scanner is able to perform as well as it does.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
11731
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:44:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I'm pretty sure it is based on sound because radar can't see through walls. Yes, radar can. Typically radar uses electromagnetic waves that have longer wavelengths than visible light. These waves are absorbed and reflected fairly easily because of it. However, electromagnetic waves with higher frequencies like X-rays and Gamma rays can pass through walls. But these are also just as likely to pass through our bodies as the wall. Sound travels worse through solid objects than electromagnetic waves. In truth, there is no real world explanation for how the scanner is able to perform as well as it does.
Gallente uses magnetic sensors which unfortunately all dropsuits are 'noisy as hell' with specially with the way shields work.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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pseudosnipre
481
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:45:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I'm pretty sure it is based on sound because radar can't see through walls. Yes, radar can. Typically radar uses electromagnetic waves that have longer wavelengths than visible light. These waves are absorbed and reflected fairly easily because of it. However, electromagnetic waves with higher frequencies like X-rays and Gamma rays can pass through walls. But these are also just as likely to pass through our bodies as the wall. Sound travels worse through solid objects than electromagnetic waves. In truth, there is no real world explanation for how the scanner is able to perform as well as it does. especially without cooking the user and target.
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1082
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:46:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I'm pretty sure it is based on sound because radar can't see through walls. Yes, radar can. Typically radar uses electromagnetic waves that have longer wavelengths than visible light. These waves are absorbed and reflected fairly easily because of it. However, electromagnetic waves with higher frequencies like X-rays and Gamma rays can pass through walls. But these are also just as likely to pass through our bodies as the wall. Sound travels worse through solid objects than electromagnetic waves. In truth, there is no real world explanation for how the scanner is able to perform as well as it does. especially without cooking the user and target.
Eh... We're expendable.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2619
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:49:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:mr musturd wrote:Wait, minny is losing its 5% profile reduction? What with that and the stats leaked for the new gallente logi - I honestly HOPE either scanners are being reworked or base profile Db is being reworked. Also - If we are cloaked do we still show up on the scanners or not? I would hope not unless there is some extra information to come from CCP. I hope not otherwise cloaking will be one of the most pointless things to skill into Why, it's extreamly hard to hit what you can't see. Regardless of showing up on radar or not.
Hey you know those chevrons above your head? Yeah, you aim just below that because guess what, there's a body there.
If you've ever played battlefield this will have the same problem as being able to spot through smoke. You spot someone and fire just below the chevron. It doesn't matter that you can't see them because you know where they are because HEY there's an arrow pointing at them.
Being able to see someone's chevron who is cloaked will make cloaks absolutely worthless unless you're playing noobs.
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