Sorry I've never been proto-stomped. Been playing this since way back in closed beta - when they got there protos so did I and I was already running with the Imperfects by then. :(

But I agree - to some it does amp up there competitive nature to try harder. But it seems most just cry.

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Look i never said my forum warrior level was high or anything lol

Would take 10 seconds to fix tbf.

This is going to be a thread for those of us who get complaints all the time of running full proto in pub matches...

I want to hear every old members memories of when they first started out and how badly they got protostomped and why it is actually a good thing to do because it drives the committed and good players to become great players...

So we will start out with mine...
.....When i first started this game i am a student of the EvE universe so being highly versed in the EvE skilling tree I had no problem managing my way around this skill tree. My character had all the best stats i could give it and I was even good at first person shooters (like CoD and Bf3) having that quick twitch hand muscles making it easy to move target to target and keeping enemies in my sights.

....What i could not figure out for the life of my is why people (back in the day) like toyboi or regynum or protoman could survive facing off versus a whole team when their stats were only slightly higher than mine. At this time i was in On The Brink which in my opinion was not a horrible group but for sure not the best corp out there. Slowly through the help of my OTB friends and studying better gamers i learned how to use this games aiming to my advantage and also how to combine certain elements of my dropsuits that seemed a little outlandish to make a strong, faster, better dropsuit. But this still did not allow me to face off against whole teams. It merely made me able to kill just about anyone 1 on 1 and have a fighting chance against the greats of the time.

.....It wasnt until i randomly one day got to squad with toyboi that i realized the aspect of the game that i was missing that all the greats had. My dropsuit at the time was ofcourse the b-series assault dropsuit. I loved my shields because they were able to recharge fast after i had killed someone. But what i never did was in the middle of a gunfight give them a chance to start recovering before killing my first target, so that when my second target or third or fourth came into the area, I was less weakened then if i had just finished him off right there. This was the missing aspect on how to beast a whole team together... give yourself a second or two to recover because most players in this game run after someone who is damaged rather than licking their wounds and trying to survive another day.

.....The other thing this allowed for was me to be in a better position to finish off these players who chased me around because i was able to use corners to my advantage peaking out and back in when i wanted to not when they wanted me to... This is when i feel like i became someone that wasnt just another pushover and finally could compete.

.....I then went on to get my proto vk.1 suit and fitted it to maximize my survivability to damage ratio and started to earn back my kdr that was soooo damaged from the hard knocks of this game. In using both great strategy and a great suit i was able to push from a 1.34 kdr at 3,500 kills to a 5.46 at 34,000 kills. This is also a way to prove urself and get noticed by the better (or even best) players and make ur way into their corps or alliances like i feel i have recently.


The thing is protostomping is a one sided battle mostly... But in saying that its only a one sided battle for a short period... Eventually the good up and coming players will figure out the strategy to this game and they too will obtain prototype suits with their own tweak on great strategies that can counter you and they too will become a "great" at this game. If we all ran militia to make it even when you start then we would all have a player base like Call of Duty does where 99.9% of the players are casual players who couldnt even tell you what a "route" was and they would be stat boosters for the .1% that was competitive gamers who run routes, push spawns, team cap and it would be pointless.


This game pushes you to better yourself and instead of giving up... figure out what they do that you dont so that you can survive an encounter with them... and maybe with a few friends you can kill them... I promise you killing us once with a standard or militia rifle annoys us but if u get us twice... It will get you noticed and if u get us more than that you will make it onto someones team no matter how few skill points you have.



So lets hear all the other veteran stories of your learning the game while getting protostomped...

Let me share one of my hatemails.

Randomguy: F&&& YOU. YOU NEED PROTO AS A CRUTCH CUZ U SUCK W AUTOAIM. ME N MY SQD HAD YOUR ASS AND YOU GLITCH AZZ *N WORD* HAD TO CHEAT "AND" YOU USED PROTO. ID STOMP YOU SON AND TAKE YOUR GIRL NO ONE WANTS TO BE WITH A FAGUT AZZ PROTO CRUTCH CUMBUCKET.

I was running solo in ADV gear, nothing proto but armor mods, and these guys rushed the objective I spawned in and I took out 4 of 'em and still had my shields.

I think new players don't realize it's the passives that make all the difference - not the proto gear.

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The vets who kicked my arse on arrival are still kickin' my arse today.
Respect the Oldtimers :-)

This is the best pro-proto running argument I've ever heard. You make great point, all of which are true. Facing hard competition always forces you to improve your game and everyone benefits from that.

Personally, sitting at 20.5 mil sp fully proto logi, I still prefer to run adv fits in pub matches mainly because I like making isk. The thing that ruins your argument is the fact that the vast majority of the proto stompers mass spam grenades and mass drivers which throws tactics straight out the window. How is anyone supposed to use cover or flank when you are exploded instantly by a proto forge 450 meters away?

I remember hiding and taking covers from missiles, small and large turrets alike. Didn't have that much issue with Proto stompers though. but those missiles. made me want to break my controller sometimes lol... So i became a blaster tanker right after...

Not a vet. Arrived in Chrome. Learned -- quickly -- to fear all PFBs and Imps.
The vets who kicked my arse on arrival are still kickin' my arse today.
Respect the Oldtimers :-)

been proto since day one.

never used it in a pub.

speak for yourself.

proto is for pussies.

Never happend..I was in the first build in closed beta I got zitrostomped if that counts?

Sorry I've never been proto-stomped. Been playing this since way back in closed beta - when they got there protos so did I and I was already running with the Imperfects by then. :(

But I agree - to some it does amp up there competitive nature to try harder. But it seems most just cry.

Sorry I've never been proto-stomped. Been playing this since way back in closed beta - when they got there protos so did I and I was already running with the Imperfects by then. :(

But I agree - to some it does amp up there competitive nature to try harder. But it seems most just cry.

If my memory serves me correct didn't you start with Zion or something? Can't remember, but remember you upsetting them or something. In any case, you didn't start with the Imperfects, you were first in Imp swarm.

*puts on glasses leaves thread*

I was in Impswarm to help out there FC's and train them and get them corp battles. If you noticed when PC dropped I was in every match Imps had until they went to SVER - where I let other heavies have a chance since STB shouldn't of been much of a challenge.

but the point of this thread was asking 'ever been proto stomped?' Where I answered - no, I had proto when everyone else did and was in Imp squads.

Stick to my other thread - you actually seemed like a good troll over there.

Im just messing with you, You're the best heavy in game imo, and one of the best trolls on here which is something I can resepct.

I gave up forum trolling back in MAG on those forums. Is there really a need for me to come out of retirement?

I still suck and I have proto...ANyone wanna tell me how they do it?

Other than strafing C-strike style..

Andwhat AIMING?? (sorry I am a PC gaming i dunno what this auto aim is...)

Dust is my first console shooter.


Andwhat fits..dude im lost..


WTF I HATE U ALL!!!


LOLOL

Most of us were just born with it, it's in our DNA.

Not a vet. Arrived in Chrome. Learned -- quickly -- to fear all PFBs and Imps.
The vets who kicked my arse on arrival are still kickin' my arse today.
Respect the Oldtimers :-)

None at all

But I often feel like I'm proto stomping on the forums.

Proto stomping on the forums just means you care more. Not about the game necessarily, but rather about your reputation and how you are perceived by the community at large.

Sorry I've never been proto-stomped. Been playing this since way back in closed beta - when they got there protos so did I and I was already running with the Imperfects by then. :(

But I agree - to some it does amp up there competitive nature to try harder. But it seems most just cry.

This is going to be a thread for those of us who get complaints all the time of running full proto in pub matches...

I want to hear every old members memories of when they first started out and how badly they got protostomped and why it is actually a good thing to do because it drives the committed and good players to become great players...

So we will start out with mine...
.....When i first started this game i am a student of the EvE universe so being highly versed in the EvE skilling tree I had no problem managing my way around this skill tree. My character had all the best stats i could give it and I was even good at first person shooters (like CoD and Bf3) having that quick twitch hand muscles making it easy to move target to target and keeping enemies in my sights.

....What i could not figure out for the life of my is why people (back in the day) like toyboi or regynum or protoman could survive facing off versus a whole team when their stats were only slightly higher than mine. At this time i was in On The Brink which in my opinion was not a horrible group but for sure not the best corp out there. Slowly through the help of my OTB friends and studying better gamers i learned how to use this games aiming to my advantage and also how to combine certain elements of my dropsuits that seemed a little outlandish to make a strong, faster, better dropsuit. But this still did not allow me to face off against whole teams. It merely made me able to kill just about anyone 1 on 1 and have a fighting chance against the greats of the time.

.....It wasnt until i randomly one day got to squad with toyboi that i realized the aspect of the game that i was missing that all the greats had. My dropsuit at the time was ofcourse the b-series assault dropsuit. I loved my shields because they were able to recharge fast after i had killed someone. But what i never did was in the middle of a gunfight give them a chance to start recovering before killing my first target, so that when my second target or third or fourth came into the area, I was less weakened then if i had just finished him off right there. This was the missing aspect on how to beast a whole team together... give yourself a second or two to recover because most players in this game run after someone who is damaged rather than licking their wounds and trying to survive another day.

.....The other thing this allowed for was me to be in a better position to finish off these players who chased me around because i was able to use corners to my advantage peaking out and back in when i wanted to not when they wanted me to... This is when i feel like i became someone that wasnt just another pushover and finally could compete.

.....I then went on to get my proto vk.1 suit and fitted it to maximize my survivability to damage ratio and started to earn back my kdr that was soooo damaged from the hard knocks of this game. In using both great strategy and a great suit i was able to push from a 1.34 kdr at 3,500 kills to a 5.46 at 34,000 kills. This is also a way to prove urself and get noticed by the better (or even best) players and make ur way into their corps or alliances like i feel i have recently.


The thing is protostomping is a one sided battle mostly... But in saying that its only a one sided battle for a short period... Eventually the good up and coming players will figure out the strategy to this game and they too will obtain prototype suits with their own tweak on great strategies that can counter you and they too will become a "great" at this game. If we all ran militia to make it even when you start then we would all have a player base like Call of Duty does where 99.9% of the players are casual players who couldnt even tell you what a "route" was and they would be stat boosters for the .1% that was competitive gamers who run routes, push spawns, team cap and it would be pointless.


This game pushes you to better yourself and instead of giving up... figure out what they do that you dont so that you can survive an encounter with them... and maybe with a few friends you can kill them... I promise you killing us once with a standard or militia rifle annoys us but if u get us twice... It will get you noticed and if u get us more than that you will make it onto someones team no matter how few skill points you have.



So lets hear all the other veteran stories of your learning the game while getting protostomped...

This thread got me wondering... I know peole have videos of those times (closed beta). Would somebody share? Although I'm not sure about the nda-restrictions. Hit me up in game!

Your not an 'old timer then' when I started geks were amazing and not a single person had proto, no double or triple sp events so proto took ages to get. You had it fking easy with those.

I got into closed beta but my code didn't work so I had to wait for open beta, downloaded it within a minute of it going live, closed beta was a joke anyway unless you enjoyed all that broken sht, the games broken now so I can't imagine how bad closed beta was, skirmish 1.0 sounds beast though.

How are you saying im not an old timer when you werent in closed beta and i was...

Im sorry i got annoyed with the broken build (aka tank dropship build) and took a break and when i came back the best were proto... Trust me i have been in this game longer than you and hated it almost the whole time lol

They should rename it Crack514 cause i cant get off this **** haha

But good to see some other old timers chiming in on the protostomped dayz

Remember when dropships and missile turret were merciless. You'd have to have a great forge gunner because the ship could outrun swarms on Magnus peak no problem.

Not a vet. Arrived in Chrome. Learned -- quickly -- to fear all PFBs and Imps.
The vets who kicked my arse on arrival are still kickin' my arse today.
Respect the Oldtimers :-)

We were nothing to fear shotty. We were pink and fluffy. How on earth could you fear something pink and fluffy.

Jane and Annie were neither Pink nor Fluffy.
The Twins didn't even jump like Bunnies.