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843 Epidemic
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.05 12:47:00 -
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I don't know if this thread has ever been made, or this notion hinted at but I for one am a strong believer that the removal of standard corp battles is one major factor that is killing Dust.
Now I'm not hear to QQ about PC, or EoN or TeamPlayers or whatever, but the fact that CCP took out corp battles has ruined mid/low level corporations. There are a few that are being 'let' into PC (on some sort of policing policy by other corps) but that's not enough. In PC there are more factors to worry about than celebrate e.g.
- Losing ISK - Losing reputation - Losing land - Losing players due to losses
In regular corp battles the only thing that was ever really at stake was your pride, but honestly that wasn't really even a factor for most, at least those who weren't rammed up the butt with ego.
Why have them back? Well it means more corps can get involved, and set their OWN terms for fights E.g. ISK, map layout, Team size. It means there will be MORE battles, and coporations actually have a chance to train without worrying they're going to lose 100 million ISK doing it.
And also, I remember when there were corp battles there were less pussies, now everyone's a ***** on the forums bitching about who attacked them and who took their stuff and all that, and I don't really blame them because yeah, it is ******* annoying wanting to play against guys your own size and then just getting stomped against your will. But, in the same way I don't blame those corps because ****, it's Dust. It's EVE. It's New Eden, **** is ruthless.
At the end of the day CCP, we are FPS players and as much as I'm sure you are concerned about Eve-intergration factors as far as we, your customers, are concerned no one gives a damn. All we want right now is corp battles back, PvE, More maps, More game modes.
Please please please. Bring back corp battles for the sake of hundreds of corporations, for the sake of our enjoyment, for the sake of PC being able to BE PC. If we have corp battles available we don't have to QQ about PC anymore because we can still have good fights without getting stomped.
Thanks, please read this guys.
- BANE, Director of 843 Burgezz Elites |

DraC0X
BurgezzE.T.F
9
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:12:00 -
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Ditto, gave the Small corps with Odd names a chance to play against other Corps or HIRE "Ringers" to play on their behalf, after all we are mercenaries right?
CCP must allow to DUST to grow giving the players and The Corps the opportunity to play the game the way the like it best, come on CCP give us options and give us Freedom to choose our game play and we will give u cannon fodder to your servers. After all most of us already give u like a year of our lives playing this game. |

Stands Alone
Ultramarine Corp
53
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Posted - 2013.08.05 17:17:00 -
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i would like some more grudge matches |

Stands Alone
Ultramarine Corp
54
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:55:00 -
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bump |

Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
537
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:15:00 -
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Bring them back but...
No isk generated. PC levels of salvage based on stuff destroyed regular SP gain |

Stands Alone
Ultramarine Corp
54
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:27:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Bring them back but...
No isk generated. PC levels of salvage based on stuff destroyed regular SP gain
isk is bet by corp on the outcome... so you challenge other corps for an agreed amount of isk |

Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1521
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:37:00 -
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There was a blue tag about coming changes to FW. Basically we will be able to enter a full team and FF is likely to in effect. Expect to see a lot of that. TBH I prefer the FW model over corporation battles just because you never know who you might run into. |

843 John Mocahn
SUPER UNICORN LOVERS STRIKEFORCE
0
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Posted - 2013.08.07 16:28:00 -
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bump |

Ku Shala
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
173
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Posted - 2013.08.07 16:51:00 -
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+1 |

Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
1340
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:15:00 -
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bump |
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843 greenears
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:17:00 -
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+1 |

Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
244
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:23:00 -
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+1 |

elric the enchanter
xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers
147
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:01:00 -
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Support this completely - please bring back the original Corp Battles
Ours is what others are calling 'indie' corps - i.e. we are all casual players with no chance of regularly particating in the grind that is PC. Despite this we also have more than enough players to fill a full team, just not as regularly as PC requires - so ye olde style corp battles would be perfect for our players to experience team-play on our terms against corps of our choosing. The original corp battles were great fun - setting the contract and going at it at a time agreed by both sides.
Queue-synching into public matches is a pain, especially when at the moment you usually end up losing a few players from squads and also end up on opposing teams (although we don't back out and 'civil wars' have been entertaining if not expensive!). Not particularly keen on attempting to queue into FW as it was more fun to know exactly who you were fighting.
I believe it would be a positive move to cater to the large casual player base, tired of playing public battles, as I'm sure there are many other smaller corps who are not bothered about fighting over a fictitious chunk of planet, but who would jump at the chance to fight similarly skilled players purely for the bragging rights - also particularly like the previously mentioned idea of salvage as per PC matches based on equipment used by each team. |

Valerie Viever
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
4
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:54:00 -
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+1! |

Tectonious Falcon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
727
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Posted - 2013.09.08 13:10:00 -
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Shouldn't have been removed, it used to be fun logging into dust on the weekend and playing friendly prearranged CB's against other corps and then swapping gg's with each other in chat - when I left the game PC was a chore. |

TcuBe3
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
41
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Posted - 2013.09.08 13:30:00 -
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+1 Scrimage matches is the best way to build corp cohesion. |

843 Epidemic
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:54:00 -
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Thanks for the love guys, CCP can you at least respond to this?
FW team deploy sounds great, please DO integrate it. But don't let that be a substitute for corp battles, with corp battles you can fight:
- Who you want - When you want - For how much - For any reason
PC doesn't achieve that, and FW team deploy negates the ISK side of things, and the 'who you want' bit.
Your take on this CCP? |

Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1745
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:57:00 -
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yep I think we need them back too. It's really the best way little corps get involved in the game, they regularly play corp matches. With PC though way too much is at stake. To launch a failed invasion costs at minimum 80 million. |

Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1190
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Posted - 2013.09.09 15:46:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Thanks for the love guys, CCP can you at least respond to this?
FW team deploy sounds great, please DO integrate it. But don't let that be a substitute for corp battles, with corp battles you can fight:
- Who you want - When you want - For how much - For any reason
PC doesn't achieve that, and FW team deploy negates the ISK side of things, and the 'who you want' bit.
Your take on this CCP?
I agree totally. They need both.
CCP Nollibar (Spelling??) tweeted just before 1.4 release that team deploy is being worked on.
I would imagine corp battles would be the easiest to implement. Just keep it simple.
And you MUST give ISK and SP rewards for this.
Some of us are just flat out tired of putting up with blueberries in pub matches. |

Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1669
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Posted - 2013.09.09 16:13:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Thanks for the love guys, CCP can you at least respond to this?
FW team deploy sounds great, please DO integrate it. But don't let that be a substitute for corp battles, with corp battles you can fight:
- Who you want - When you want - For how much - For any reason
PC doesn't achieve that, and FW team deploy negates the ISK side of things, and the 'who you want' bit.
Your take on this CCP?
This is a good point.
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LCB Holdings
Expert Intervention Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:29:00 -
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CCP should bring them back in a 3 control points match but keep the size of 8vs8 and allow such control to be issued within corporations ( Corp A vs Corp A).
-Variety -ISK gambling -Player run tournaments -Small corporation training
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843 Epidemic
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
132
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:11:00 -
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bump.
CCP? |
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