Ok well the time is past for our precious PFC to become regulated. Oddeluf has come a long way since the beginning, and the concept that is currently going on is novel and fully supported.

But, we need to create a universal policy that is agreed on by all and strictly enforced.

Now my personal suggestion is oddeluf become the planet for those not in the rest of molden heath, a modification of the current setup where all the landowners outside oddeluf hand over their district to low/middle tier corps (for a price obviously) to keep the good fights on a similar skill level going strong.

Current/proposed rules:

Clones residing on planet fight club STAY on planet fight club. No using clones from your district to try to expand your empire as fight club is excluded from the rest of PC and the war over real estate

Corps on oddeluf must be active. This means lands there should be under attack or clones regenerating on all districts frequently

I don't see a need for there to be a long list of requirements. Really the 2 guidelines and moving the high tier and other corps active in the rest of molden heath off oddeluf to increase activity are all I think needs to be done to optimize the current setup

Lots of corps have been getting the most out of oddeluf, while many others, many of which are eon, including team players (we have had 1 pfc match to date) are only holding space that could better be used for corps lookin for fights and not lands

The floor is open

PFC is ultra high sec for Indies.
I'm all for any rules to help them.

As I understand it ringers from non alliance corps are frowned upon. Indies don't have alliances so that rule applies predominantly to the big boys who have no real need of PFC anyways. Let Indie corps bring ringers from other Indie corps. Corps found to exclusively hire ringers may be petitioned.
The point here is to make it easier for little guys to get their feet wet and get used to coping with timers.

Well as far as I am concerned to two really important rules are:

1. No flipping of the district
2. Matches only take place when both parties agree to them.

As far as ringers are concerned they should mostly be from your alliance or the other party should be notified when more than one-third is from outside the alliance. If any of the above rules are not respected by the attacking party, anything is allowed.

if you don't flip districts then people will just sit on there land, and try to build money to fuel there corp. also it makes it impossible for a corp to enter fight club. besides just attacking from the outside that is. but then the money is always supplied by us which is fine, but a little annoying

I mean i get that you don't want to have the smaller corps kicked out of PC without reason. but this rule also protect corps that barley field 6 people in a fight. they should at least be able to support over half of there team with no alliance ringers, and then the other half could be alliance people.

that is more of an honor thing though, i mean i would never expect EoN to enforce something as nit picky as that.

good luck EoN cuz if im honest with myself, i don't see a clean way to make this work seamlessly. especially when ringers are so heavily used in PFC.

Well as far as I am concerned to two really important rules are:

1. No flipping of the district
2. Matches only take place when both parties agree to them.

As far as ringers are concerned they should mostly be from your alliance or the other party should be notified when more than one-third is from outside the alliance. If any of the above rules are not respected by the attacking party, anything is allowed.

If there is no flipping of districts the same corps will remain forever, making PFC a static affair that will just turn to ISK farming because the attacks have to be mutual.

What I propose sounds more like Mini Molden Heath. If you really want to see Indies fight, get their feet wet and grow then do this.

1 Rule, Just the small Indies (However you want to define that).

Let them make alliances with each other, let them pull ringers from each other, let them develop into a society of their own with NO influence from the big corps. In that way they will not only learn to fight well, but learn to be diplomatic, to play the political system, how to survive when they don't have a fall back switch. Let PFC become MMH.

Another note, is while I understand the spirit of your proposed rule, telling a corp they can't have ANY space off Oddelulf puts a dampening effect on people moving off of it.

Indies should be allowed to hold a couple districts outside of PFC.
PFC is meant to be a relativly safe area to practice PC. Stifling an indie corps ability to branch out defeats the whole purpose and erodes any desire to seek participation - so, that's a pretty bad idea.
Now, larger corporations shouldn't really be on PFC unless they are constantly using it.

Also, districts should be flippable by other Indies. It doesn't make sense for Hellstorm to be taking districts, but if some new corporation comes along and manages to take one all the power to them. Ultimately we want to grow a smart and aggressive playerbase - setting rules that allow for too easy a ride is counterproductive.

What do you guys think of using districts to set up things like 1v1 battles, testing out fittings/vehicles/what is possible in dust and game mechanics?

I see PFC as not only something where we can have somewhat "serious" matches but also screw around, similar to how the old corp battles were.

Let's all call in derpships and crash into each other, see who is last alive.
Let's all run the same suit to see who wins.
Let's have some fun!

These things have been going on... sha and si ran thunderdome which was a 1v1 fighting area in matches. These kind of things are encouraged

I'd say that there needs to be a few rules.

1. no "big-name corp" ringers. You said you want indies fighting indies, right?

2. If you can't hold it, you don't keep it. I say, let the districts flip. they want to have practice with all aspects of PC? then let them learn to deal with loss as well. Or else, whenever they activate rule 3(it's a natural course of action, unless they're only interested in PFC for trying to farm as many clones as possible, and not training) and they do probably lose the district after not gaining another, there's a decent chance of corp implosion.

3. Once you attempt an expansion from oddeluf(failed or successful) your district is no longer afforded the protection of the rules, any and all ringers/espionage/etc allowed. You're playing in the big boy's pond now, better get used to it. Violations of rule 1 activate rule 3 as well.


Basically, keep the big fish out of the small pond, until the little fish want to go out to the ocean. Then, all bets are off, throw their asses to the sharks.


And on the concept of having some of the bigger corps on oddeluf. I agree with keeping them there. how else are the indie corps supposed to learn advanced tactics and combat techniques without someone really good to practice against? Those fights however should have to be prearranged, to prevent them simply stomping out indies in favor of their friends/alt corps getting the spot.