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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:25:00 -
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When this topic is brought up the usual recourse from EoN is to point at the past... 2 years in the making. Then they point at the future "we built this corp for nullsec".
While thats all well and good, what about the present? I think that is what the OP is getting out (who clearly is NOT a member of EoN).
Its kind of funny in a way.. if you look at this, the leader of EoN has been given an enourmous amount of power to decide the goings on in PC. Wether he wanted that power or not, he has it. And with power comes responsibility (like Superman). What EoN does with their power is entirely up to them. We read posts time and time again of EoN guys saying to the community "get good, get organized, come fite us!!! rawr".
But think about it like this.. a bunch of a-team players standing on top of a hill, looking down not upon the masses.. but upon a few beat up, tired, frustrated, annoyed players walking towards the door as EoN screams.. "COME BACK GUYS, COME FIGHT US YOU SCRUBS LOLZ".. as the rest of us turn over our shoulders and flick you the bird. And you wonder why people are suggesting that you "fight yourselves" for now. That would solve both problems.. give you guys the competition you claim to desire so much, and loosen the grip a little on the PC stranglehold to allow for the possibility of some growth in the game/community.
But your response would probalby be "**** you guys, we aint never splitting up.. besides this game is dead, dying, on its last breath" or whatever the latest catch phrase you can come up with. or just spew the same old "we been together 2 years" or "we built this corp for nullsec".. or "we didnt cause this, blame CCP" .. or "other corps have done this, why cant we" or...etc etc etc.
Stop making posts, if EoN decides they want to call an audible and switch things up they will. If they dont, they dont. Nobody is going to sway them otherwise.. only time will tell what happens.
Besides, September 17th is not that far away :)
Disclaimer ... Posted on my main, but please remember my thoughts DO NOT represent those of Molon Labe... so please save your thumb wiggling energy to bring my corp or any of them into this discussion.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.05 17:46:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:
yawn, cant believe this thread is still goin.
still dont get ppl fascination with wanting us to toss away 2 years of building for a present that will last a couple weeks/months till PS4 drops? (yes it is 2 years Mr Alt , iv been building this since b4 it came out but im sure ur COLD HARD FACTS will tell me that i havent been building it right?)
Everyone laughed and criticised us when we were building "LOL u guys can try and hold land with ur small corps...NUMBERS WILL WIN!!!!!1"
U had ppl that chose pure numbers fall, ppl that thought EVE support would win it for em fall, ppl that thought monopolizing an entire TZ fall and the one group that stuck to its FPS CLAN (yes thats right i said it....CLAN) principles prevailed. Everyone but NF and EoN thought Quality would never win over having more bodies even when we told em u still needed to win ur fights to make those numbers count ppl shrugged it off and laughed..........now we are here.......in the Cry Room.
Nullsec Preview for the shortsighted kids: Alliance with 1600 ppl compared to an alliance with 2000 and 3000+ ppl. Think PS2 where even when u log off the fighting is still goin on (thats how nullwars will b) so based on that alone the alliance that is spread out worldwide and has more bodies will prob have numerical advantages in fights so us lowly EoN folk will have to fight outnumbered especially on our off times most likely when faced against the other big boys.
Also....ur inhouse EVE support isnt gonna mean **** in nullsec so dont focus on it focus on ur mercs cuz null grps will provide u all the EVE support u could ever want IF ur good enough and they are willing to work with u (that was another big campaign against us btw where ppl laughed how we had little to no EVE support for lowsec when i told them EVE support now doesnt matter and atm nullgrps will just be paying attention to WHO can shoot and get the job done as Mercs....zomg there goes that long term thinkin again........lol)
PS: @ ER the game/community is not growing sorry to burst ur bubble but this game is NOT attracting new players (inb4some1blamesEoN4that) and thats because of dumb decisions by CCP. The starting grind for a new player to b PC ready is about TWO months+ CCP never listened when we said DUST =/= EVE and thus u gotta treat it differently. NO FPS player will want to GRIND for 2+months of PUBS just to b PC ready on a SUBPAR FPS when they can go play much smoother fpses and be competitive either from day 1 or within a week of playin hard.
When DUST re-launches on PS4 CCP will have a 2nd chance to grow the community so hopefully by the time it reaches PS4 the game is on par with what the other PS4 shooters are offering from a pure shooter perspective.
Mav out wont be responding anymore cuz this thread is fail and not even entertaining just more crying. tired of giving free alliance building tips to ppl lol
And again you go straight to the past. Who gives a flux about EvE? Or what people thought would or woudlnt happen 2-3 months ago. You are chest thumping again. Stop.
You have blinders on buddy. Lets say for a second you split up the alliance into two equal parts. Whose to say you couldnt just put it right back together at the first sign of "trouble". Trouble being, you know, another alliance capable of giving you a run for your money. There is no risk in that scenario, all it would do would accompish the goals I already outlied above.
1. Gives EoN blokes something to do other than pubstomping and/or forum trolling. A challenge, you know.. what you all claim to want so much.
2. Breathing room to see if PC would grow again. May not happen, but what else are you doing right now besides farmville and PFC?
This yet another typical condescending post by yet another ego filled douchebag. First word of your post "yawn". Nice dude. I said what I said because its true. The only people who disagree, for the most part, are those inside the super alliance. You are so swallowed up by your ego that you cant even comprehend what I wrote. But like I said, nobody expects you to do the unthinkable. Because, that would require..... thinking.
At the very least please ask your EoN goons (you know who you are) to stop claiming they are looking for a challenge all over the forums and in game. Tell them to send you those messages, cause the rest of the community is tired of hearing about it. We have enough QQ around here to listen to that drivel. The challenge you desire is sitting in the chair right next to you pal. Reach out and touch it.
Nobody can change the past. Nobody can tell CCP what to do. As the leader of the only alliance left in this game, you DO have some control of what happens in the future.. wether you believe it or not. I have faith in you, even if you dont have faith in yourself. You can make a difference... We cant go back and give leadership over EoN to someone else with a conscience and will to be different, to be better. We are stuck with you. Sorry if I am trying to change you, consider it my final and only attempt at the Meta. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:41:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Got to say atleast your putting your thoughts forward in a good way so +1 for that.
Like Thor said i see what your trying to say but my from postion its just dumb. You say who cares about the past, its simple we do. We built this from nothing took all the hate along the way and kept it going. Many many man hours were spent on making EoN what it is and risking to throw it all away for the entertainment of the community is im sorry to say a joke.
All i say is, would you do what your suggesting if YOU built EoN? If you were Mavado would you risk throwing it all away cause some others who can't plan as well as you need entertainment?
Its like thor said and many other have point out in this thread and many others, it's on CCP why we are here where we at. Only they can fix it.
EDIT - I realize this post is pretty out of the realm of game so you will probably answer with meta so yea have fun with that.
First time I have seen you type up something intelligent. +1 to you as well.
Little about me - I am a salesman. My job is to please people. Call me a "people person".
If I were in your position I would like to think I would do what is best for my people first, then whats best for the longevity of the game and community second. Go back to blaming CCP, or do something about it myself? Be revered by my peers for being the best strategist, player, organizer, planner... or once I have accomplished that, be revered for being a people person and helping out a perfect stranger? I know it is rare in the online gaming community, but who says you guys cant break the mold. At first glance Planet Fight Club is doing just that, helping people for no other reason but to help them. NO reward, no gain, just the right thing to do. Why stop there?
And I said it before, whats the worst that could happen? It doesnt work, PC doesnt grow, you put EoN back together just like it was? Where is the risk in at least giving it a serious thought, discussion, and maybe even a go at it? What else are you/we all doing here?
While there are clear advantages to the rest of the community to see a rest from the EoN domination, would it not benefit you as well to get some competition going against the best players left in this game? I know I have seen you make posts looking for competition, belittling the community for lack thereof. So do you or dont you want fights?
Disclaimer... My thoughts are my own and do not represent Molon Labe. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:07:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Got to say atleast your putting your thoughts forward in a good way so +1 for that.
Like Thor said i see what your trying to say but my from postion its just dumb. You say who cares about the past, its simple we do. We built this from nothing took all the hate along the way and kept it going. Many many man hours were spent on making EoN what it is and risking to throw it all away for the entertainment of the community is im sorry to say a joke.
All i say is, would you do what your suggesting if YOU built EoN? If you were Mavado would you risk throwing it all away cause some others who can't plan as well as you need entertainment?
Its like thor said and many other have point out in this thread and many others, it's on CCP why we are here where we at. Only they can fix it.
EDIT - I realize this post is pretty out of the realm of game so you will probably answer with meta so yea have fun with that. First time I have seen you type up something intelligent. +1 to you as well. Little about me - I am a salesman. My job is to please people. Call me a "people person". If I were in your position I would like to think I would do what is best for my people first, then whats best for the longevity of the game and community second. Go back to blaming CCP, or do something about it myself? Be revered by my peers for being the best strategist, player, organizer, planner... or once I have accomplished that, be revered for being a people person and helping out a perfect stranger? I know it is rare in the online gaming community, but who says you guys cant break the mold. At first glance Planet Fight Club is doing just that, helping people for no other reason but to help them. NO reward, no gain, just the right thing to do. Why stop there? And I said it before, whats the worst that could happen? It doesnt work, PC doesnt grow, you put EoN back together just like it was? Where is the risk in at least giving it a serious thought, discussion, and maybe even a go at it? What else are you/we all doing here? While there are clear advantages to the rest of the community to see a rest from the EoN domination, would it not benefit you as well to get some competition going against the best players left in this game? I know I have seen you make posts looking for competition, belittling the community for lack thereof. So do you or dont you want fights? Disclaimer... My thoughts are my own and do not represent Molon Labe. See the problem with responding to the first part of this is as soon as I try to explain the good things we have done*gasp* for PC or the bad things that havn't been done, could also say, the trolls will say stop trying to be called saints. Which i don't know how that started cause I dont think anyone in EoN considers themselfs a saint, we just tried to defend what we have done when people say we do nothing for the community. There is no risk in giving it a serious discussion and who says we havn't? Not to be a **** but comments like that come back to people talking as if they know of the happenings inside EoN or EoN Leadership which you don't. Anyways I don't call the shots so not like what i say matters but i can guarantee you EoN won't break up to fight for a few months(no secret EoN is gone when ps4 is out) for the enjoyment of others. It just won't happen. I see what your saying and honestly i commend you for trying to look out for the rest of this community and the game(meta or not) but this is out of the players hands. Ya you hate to hear it but the blame is on CCP and the 5k total playerbase(most of which is afk farming).
Great point, I do know nothing of what goes on behind the scenes in EoN. Unfortunately, all I have to go on are forum posts and responses from people like yourself (and up until this short discussion, I thought you didnt have a living brain cell in your body.. glad I was wrong), King Kobrah, Lance, and a handful of other EoN guys. Most response are usually hate filled, condescening, QQ more, L2P... stuff like that.
I digress, thank you for your time and in closing... GG EoN for winning the pants off PC hands down. After all is said and done, trolls back in their caves, you guys deserve whatever bounties you can harvest from the great triump.
o7 |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
177
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Posted - 2013.08.05 23:47:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Lunamaria Hawkeye wrote:HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:Scared of the truth? The fact is, you guys are making us all look bad. The community is right. Because of the actions of a few corps in EoN, we all are starting to look bad. Coward? No. But troll on.
Team Players, Outer Heaven, Synergy, Red Star, you all make us all look like idiots. A lot of us are getting tired of it. You know what? I hope you step on a lego. Barefoot. Probably only has megablocks cause his parents dont love him
I lawl'd at the lego comment.
His parents might be scared he may confuse normal legos for fruit loops and try to eat them. They're GRRRREEEAAAATTTT!
****, wrong mascot |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:13:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:
/Fred
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3527501824/h87C7E79E/ |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:37:00 -
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HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:Main post updated smokeeee breaaakkkkkkkk
I doubt any of you care, but this guy is definetely Charlotte Odell. Only player I have heard say "smookeee breaaaakkk" before exactly like this on comms, who could care enough about this subject to troll this hard, and who also brags all over the place about being "the best troll." He is techincally in EoN as he claimed in his original post, but a very new butthurt addition to OH only a week or two ago.
I could go and analyze both accounts posts to find similarities in word structure, commonly used smiley's, and **** like that. But I am too certain about this identity to even bother proving it further.
D1ck Tracy Lvl +1
Carry on. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:34:00 -
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So you first respond only with
Love thy ponies!! Terrorists!!
And leave it like that for 5-10 minutes.
Then you come back and add the edited P.S. I'm not Char, etc, etc, etc.
Fishy.
And yeah, Zatara screwed his alt troll attempt by forgetting to change mercs. But that was quickly swept under the rug, I caught it tho it made me chuckle. But does any of this really matter anymore? just have fun and forget the drama, it will all be over soon enough. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:43:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:So you first respond only with
Love thy ponies!! Terrorists!!
And leave it like that for 5-10 minutes.
Then you come back and add the edited P.S. I'm not Char, etc, etc, etc.
Fishy.
And yeah, Zatara screwed his alt troll attempt by forgetting to change mercs. But that was quickly swept under the rug, I caught it tho it made me chuckle. But does any of this really matter anymore? just have fun and forget the drama, it will all be over soon enough. I guess my attempt at trolling him was more than super effective. Maybe if you knew how I am in game, and squaded with me you'd know better. Cubs refers to me as "carebear" cause of my "let's all be friends and say nice things about each other," demeanor. Though I do think I know who he is (cause he was in PFBHz), but that's neither here nor there. If ya want to squad up lemme know, I literally **** rainbows and smiley emote's when I'm not being militia forged or murder taxi'd.
Meh, I found it mildly amusing at best. Not gonna comment on you or your character, people choose to troll on alts randomly for whatever reason they feel the need to. I aint got no problems with that.
I squaded with you once a while back. We were a hodge podge of randoms from some channel, we got beat by some proto squad of whatever... you were bitching that we werent working together, it was hard to hear what you were saying since you were standing so high up on that pedestle. Was kind of too much whine for my taste, but maybe you have changed? /shrug, doesnt matter I only log on these days to help the ML crew out with PC if/when they need me. Then its back to wargames on my ipad til GTA 5 comes out.
Is this thread finished now please? kthx. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:14:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:I only hang in the subdreddit and eon channels. Which one do you chill in. And I'm gonna call bullshit on ya squading with me. But I know it's tough trying to get eon to break up, any drama you might stir up and try to come off like you don't care is a difficult job, you'll get it sooner or later
Maybe it was sand castles? Cant be certain. The experience was probably as forgettable to you as it was to me lol. |
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
192
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:23:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:But that doesn't mean I can't squad up! Join a channel and let's squad up, there's a first time for everything, especially for me.
I would squad up with you again for ***** and giggles if I still played casually (or sexually). My only desire is to log in for PC and help those who helped me get back in the fight.. the awesome folks over at ML. For now at least. If I come back I will look you up... lots of people who I have heard only stories about, read posts on the forums, that I would like to play a few rounds with on the same side for a change :)
Peace and potatoes.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2013.08.27 19:03:00 -
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HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:Cubs is a liar.
I think Quickgloves said recently to the FEC "dont drink the coolaid".
Anyone who has drank the EoN coolaid over the past few months... throw that **** up and hit those *******. Hit their timers, awox their corps, break into their homes and smash their PS3's with a hammer (no, dont do that.. thats going to far and its illegal).
DOWN WITH EON
UP WITH CHOLESTEROL!!! |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2013.08.27 19:19:00 -
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HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:I swear Cubs is partly mentally challenged and just doesn't realize it.
He also thinks the community is stupid, granted any1 helping or buying land from EoN is an idiot but most of the community should know better by now.
Have to disagree... chicagocubs is faaaarr from stupid.
The community drank the coolaid, his plan worked, and he has enough isk.. an alt corp.. and the means and will to try and lock their timers and shut everyone out of PC who isnt willing to pay his price.
Can he do what he says he can do? possibly
But a word to the wise.... do not be fooled by this guy. Do not think he is on your side, because he hasnt been since day one. Every action he takes, even if it appears to be "good for the community" is all in an effort to put his corp in a better position to stay at the top.
It is possible he will come in here and refute what I said. But make decisions on your own. Take what he says with a grain of salt. The only thing you can control 100% is what you and your corp/leaders decide to do. |
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