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Jeremiah ambromot
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
38
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Posted - 2013.08.03 08:22:00 -
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So with the gunnlogi to fit the most expensive proto turret (vs most expensive lvl 3 turret) you have to give up a damage mod (losing ~9% damage and ~4% rate of fire) and put on some kind of pg upgrade. The proto turret itself (vs lvl 3 version) gives about 13% damage increase. So giving up 9% dmg you gain 13% so in the end you are only up by ~4% damage and down on rate of fire by ~ 4%. Why would you ever use a proto turret on a gunnlogi?
Below is a bit more worked out and wordy version, not that I could cut much out.
So to fit a proto large turret on my gunnlogi it requires at least some kind of pg upgrade. To do this I must get rid of one of my two large throughput field stabilizer IIs (large blaster/rail gun damage mod) and put on a pg upgrade of some kind. The damage mods give me 10% increase with damage and 5% increase in rate of fire with one. With two, due to stacking penalty, I get 18.89 damage increase and 9.34 increase to rate of fire. Most expensive lvl 3 railgun does 1591.1 dmg and most expensive proto does 1798.7 damage or a 207.6/13% damage increase. Large lvl 3 blaster does 132.8 dmg and proto does 150.1 dmg or 17.3/13% damage increase.
Compared
Railgun
80gj compressed particle cannon and 80gj compressed particle accelerator
Blaster
80gj scattered neutron blaster and 80 gj scattered ion cannon. |
Jeremiah ambromot
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
38
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Posted - 2013.08.03 08:23:00 -
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Please tell me I did my math wrong. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
631
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Posted - 2013.08.03 09:22:00 -
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I have made the same conclusions, although for some reason the proto guns seem to perform better.
Maybe because other stats besides DPS? Maybe coz proto gun overheats slower as it's RoF is slower while keeping the DPS.
Note that if fitting proto hybrid is possible with 1-2 Power Diagnostic Systems, the tank gains some extra HP and regen. If turret performance are the close to same, then that extra tanking ability is what you gain - for a ~1M isk. |
Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
27
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Posted - 2013.08.03 12:27:00 -
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Tanks suck. 1.5 better bring the sagaris  |
Church The Sniper
Cafe Speed Plains
EoN.
3
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Posted - 2013.08.03 12:37:00 -
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Hybrid turret setups are iffy on gunnlogis, and I'm assuming the build you're referring to is a Railgun glass cannon build....I hope.
as far as blasters go I only run scatt neutron or standard neutron for the 4960 shielding with 3 res amps 1 supp extender and 1 Heavy clarity ward rep & 2small missle turrets,throwing on a proto ...yeah...no thank you..around 2mil isk for a front-line glass cannon. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
788
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Posted - 2013.08.03 12:42:00 -
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proto turrets are what will make you go broke. cost more than the tank itself  |
Jeremiah ambromot
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
38
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:36:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I have made the same conclusions, although for some reason the proto guns seem to perform better.
Maybe because other stats besides DPS? Maybe coz proto gun overheats slower as it's RoF is slower while keeping the DPS.
Note that if fitting proto hybrid is possible with 1-2 Power Diagnostic Systems, the tank gains some extra HP and regen. If turret performance are the close to same, then that extra tanking ability is what you gain - for a ~1M isk.
For the blasters the rof is listed as the same. The railgun it is only slightly different. Although I did not concider overheat. |
Jeremiah ambromot
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
38
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:37:00 -
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Church The Sniper wrote:Hybrid turret setups are iffy on gunnlogis, and I'm assuming the build you're referring to is a Railgun glass cannon build....I hope.
as far as blasters go I only run scatt neutron or standard neutron for the 4960 shielding with 3 res amps 1 supp extender and 1 Heavy clarity ward rep & 2small missle turrets,throwing on a proto ...yeah...no thank you..around 2mil isk for a front-line glass cannon.
I am referring to two damage mods and a lvl 3 turret vs 1 damage mode one pg upgrade and a proto. The rest you can fit as you want as it is not the main focus of my point. |
Eurydice Itzhak
Militaires Sans Jeux
160
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:45:00 -
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You should have two pg mods on your gunnlogi at anyrate for maximum tank. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
458
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:58:00 -
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As a happy-to-contribute gunner I can say the 3's are all I need to boogie on some pesky AV grenade tossing infantrymen.
If you're fitting a tank, don't even bother with the Particle Cannons (or whatever those are). Those things are terrible. Save yourself the ISK.
Do pilots hear my headshot gongs? |
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