DUST Search - Do you REALLY think the MD won't be nerfed?...AGAIN

THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:

HONESTLY, you've seen that they will nerf any and everything, dropsuits, vehicles, weapons, tactics, equipment, EVERYTHING is subject to a nerf.
Its a miracle the AR hasn't been nerfed with how much people b**** about it, and its the sole miracle this has happened to.
Now I'm not saying the mass driver needs a nerf, far from it, I believe the MD is one of the few weapons balanced and able to do its job, but it doesn't matter what I think. Its apparently matters what the 150(roughly) forum trolls think as they spam threads QQing about everything single thing,(even ARs..really...).

So what I'm asking is, not that you think the mass driver needs a nerf or not, because I don't care about the retort of some forum troll with an IQ of <100, I'm asking whether or not you think CCP will listen, and nerf it.

Me? As you can tell I don't have faith in CCPs abilities to judge right from wrong so I firmly believe the CCP mega-nerf-bat is coming to it.

PS. I'm still going to spec into it because its actually a fun weapon atm, and I no longer care about playing the game competitively, CCPs excessive nerfing and ridiculously OP weapons (like the flaylock & fused nades, or charybdis) have shown that taking this game seriously is a complete waste of time.

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THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. EoN. 161	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:30:00 - [1] - Quote HONESTLY, you've seen that they will nerf any and everything, dropsuits, vehicles, weapons, tactics, equipment, EVERYTHING is subject to a nerf. Its a miracle the AR hasn't been nerfed with how much people b**** about it, and its the sole miracle this has happened to. Now I'm not saying the mass driver needs a nerf, far from it, I believe the MD is one of the few weapons balanced and able to do its job, but it doesn't matter what I think. Its apparently matters what the 150(roughly) forum trolls think as they spam threads QQing about everything single thing,(even ARs..really...). So what I'm asking is, not that you think the mass driver needs a nerf or not, because I don't care about the retort of some forum troll with an IQ of <100, I'm asking whether or not you think CCP will listen, and nerf it. Me? As you can tell I don't have faith in CCPs abilities to judge right from wrong so I firmly believe the CCP mega-nerf-bat is coming to it. PS. I'm still going to spec into it because its actually a fun weapon atm, and I no longer care about playing the game competitively, CCPs excessive nerfing and ridiculously OP weapons (like the flaylock & fused nades, or charybdis) have shown that taking this game seriously is a complete waste of time.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2616	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:33:00 - [2] - Quote The reason why the AR hasn't been nerfed is because 80% of the players mainly use it. Why do you think everything that can kill an AR user gets nerfed?
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1540	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:33:00 - [3] - Quote Everything is going to be nerfed and buffed over and over again, they have done very little to show they know ******* anything about weapon balance
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 988	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:35:00 - [4] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Its a miracle the AR hasn't been nerfed with how much people b**** about it, and its the sole miracle this has happened to. It has, the duvie used to do absolute craploads and not 34, the dps on it was nuts. The TAC used to be game-breakingly overpowered, then they made it semi-automatic... and then later nerfed it again like a year later rather recently. The Breach AR was godlike, absolute godlike, in it's time and there was no point in using any of the other ARs.
Zcynx Rivera Famous.OTF Only The Famous 10	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:37:00 - [5] - Quote We all know anything other than an assault Rifle will be nerfed, because is not part of AR 514.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. EoN. 162	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:41:00 - [6] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Its a miracle the AR hasn't been nerfed with how much people b**** about it, and its the sole miracle this has happened to. It has, the duvie used to do absolute craploads and not 34, the dps on it was nuts, it did 50-something a bullet. The TAC used to be game-breakingly overpowered, then they made it semi-automatic... and then later nerfed it again like a year later rather recently. The Breach AR was godlike, absolute godlike, in it's time and there was no point in using any of the other ARs. I know this but i meant lately, and i meant the standard duvolle, since the rather recent nerf to the tac, at the beginning of the build. BTW guys I really am asking a question here, otherwise i wouldn't have made the thread, so far it seems like 4 yes's
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 2256	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:43:00 - [7] - Quote Would you like some cheese with your whine?
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. EoN. 162	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:45:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Would you like some cheese with your whine? Looks like the trolls have come out to play.
Xender17 Intrepidus XI EoN. 412	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:45:00 - [9] - Quote No. people just scream OP when something kills them without doing direct damage. (shooting feet) Nobody thinks about how impractical the explosive part of the game. The radius of everything should be doubled but the splash damage of everything should be halved. With halving the splash> ammo per clip and raf would have to be increased.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 2256	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:47:00 - [10] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Would you like some cheese with your whine? Looks like the trolls have come out to play. It amuses me toying with QQers who complain that the nerfhammer is massive and hitting things left and right.

Ark Angel Clone-A Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 17	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:52:00 - [11] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: HONESTLY, you've seen that they will nerf any and everything, dropsuits, vehicles, weapons, tactics, equipment, EVERYTHING is subject to a nerf. Its a miracle the AR hasn't been nerfed with how much people b**** about it, and its the sole miracle this has happened to. Now I'm not saying the mass driver needs a nerf, far from it, I believe the MD is one of the few weapons balanced and able to do its job, but it doesn't matter what I think. Its apparently matters what the 150(roughly) forum trolls think as they spam threads QQing about everything single thing,(even ARs..really...). So what I'm asking is, not that you think the mass driver needs a nerf or not, because I don't care about the retort of some forum troll with an IQ of <100, I'm asking whether or not you think CCP will listen, and nerf it. Me? As you can tell I don't have faith in CCPs abilities to judge right from wrong so I firmly believe the CCP mega-nerf-bat is coming to it. PS. I'm still going to spec into it because its actually a fun weapon atm, and I no longer care about playing the game competitively, CCPs excessive nerfing and ridiculously OP weapons (like the flaylock & fused nades, or charybdis) have shown that taking this game seriously is a complete waste of time. the MD is already balanced and doesn't need too much attention right now because it is serving it's purpose as a GRENADE LAUNCHER and GRENADE LAUNCHERS are supposed to do that much dmg. even if you use flux and MD it just means you were better equipped and smart enough to think of a way to kill someone quicker and not be OP...
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. EoN. 163	Posted - 2013.08.02 23:00:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Would you like some cheese with your whine? Looks like the trolls have come out to play. It amuses me toying with QQers who complain that the nerfhammer is massive and hitting things left and right. Sorry but youre only toying with yourself and in that one sentence you managed to firmly convince me of your stupidity based on your implication of your opinion, toy with yourself some more like you do every night, because i have no tolerance for ignorance, now excuse me whilst i hide your posts so i can lessen the amount of stupid being shown to me on my TV screen.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood 437	Posted - 2013.08.02 23:51:00 - [13] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Its a miracle the AR hasn't been nerfed with how much people b**** about it, and its the sole miracle this has happened to. It has, the duvie used to do absolute craploads and not 34, the dps on it was nuts, it did 50-something a bullet. The TAC used to be game-breakingly overpowered, then they made it semi-automatic... and then later nerfed it again like a year later rather recently. The Breach AR was godlike, absolute godlike, in it's time and there was no point in using any of the other ARs. Even when the creodron breach AR was awesome the duvolle still had 100 more DPS and was vastly superior in CQC.
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 161	Posted - 2013.08.02 23:56:00 - [14] - Quote With all the ONLYUSEmeAR people out there (+1 if you get that reference) it's bound to get a nerf. I'm a MD lover myself and I make AR users send me hatemail whenever I use it. Note: not because it is OP because apparently AR should insta kill everything... ._.
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 168	Posted - 2013.08.02 23:57:00 - [15] - Quote From what I have seen, there are two worlds in DUST: The pubbers, and those who call themselves competitive. The Pubbers are the ones who play to play. They dont care about anything other than winning the match they are in or protecting their wallet. They die, they respawn and keep going. I do not believe they are the ones who are the best people to provide mechanic related feedback as they are not attempting to push boundaries. They just play the game to have fun. Then there are the competitive types. When a weapon or tactic is particularly effective they run into it again and again and again. I think this is where the lines get blurred when something is OP and simply very effective. The competitive types will always run into other competitive types who will be doing their very best to deny them the opportunities of life and fun. These types will complain loudly and their voices mean more to the Devs than pubbers. The competitive types are who this game is being made for. Thats why the devs grant them so much influence. Without them, the game would have too many flaws that would never be caught by a Pubby. The competitors play the game to the fullest and run into flaws more often. As far as the cycle of violence (Nerf, buff) in DUST is concerned, I think we all have to wait. This game is not finished. It is an art project that we are allowed to play in.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 792	Posted - 2013.08.03 00:05:00 - [16] - Quote Another lowtatehitman nerf projection...... I have been right 100% on with calling the nerfs ahead of time. Please spread the word on this one..... Do not skill into the Lazer rifle..... the allure of a red dot sight and the dmg buff it will be given to entice players to sink sp into it will be tempting, but it will get nerfed back down after about 1-2 months if the past timetables hold true.
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 153	Posted - 2013.08.03 00:10:00 - [17] - Quote Should the MD be nerfed, no. Will it likely be nerfed, yes. Personally I'm more concerned about hit detection and aiming, and believe while that MD might feel OP to some, that it's more symptomatic of Dust's clunky gunplay. And while it might be easy to say learn to play to player's struggling with gunplay, it's important to remember that not every mechanic in the game can be design top down.
Killar-12 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 388	Posted - 2013.08.03 00:10:00 - [18] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Another lowtatehitman nerf projection...... I have been right 100% on with calling the nerfs ahead of time. Please spread the word on this one..... Do not skill into the Lazer rifle..... the allure of a red dot sight and the dmg buff it will be given to entice players to sink sp into it will be tempting, but it will get nerfed back down after about 1-2 months if the past timetables hold true. Dead Alliance Do Ignore, meh, you guys still have stuff in dust so... I'll bash Dreddit later And the MD's or AR's
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1429	Posted - 2013.08.03 00:15:00 - [19] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: The reason why the AR hasn't been nerfed is because 80% of the players mainly use it. Why do you think everything that can kill an AR user gets nerfed? Yes, we're playing AR 514. The only reason there are even suggestions about nerfing the MD again is because it's not absolute trash when compared to the AR. Remember, the first rule of AR 514 is that any weapon that becomes useful, or looks like it might, other than the AR gets nerfed. Hail AR 514, hail king AR. Go AR or go home.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 1119	Posted - 2013.08.03 00:26:00 - [20] - Quote Have you guys used the MD in PC? Pretty balanced in there, I must say, what with the capacity to team kill and the lack of targets who simply stand in one spot inviting me to blow them up. But then again, everything seems balanced when everyone uses similar (prototype) gear. Oh... what? Doesn't that mean breaking down tiers and simply implementing a variant-based system would instantly bring balance to the game? Yes, yes it would. The Tiercide revolution is upon us.

BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 76	Posted - 2013.08.03 00:31:00 - [21] - Quote MD doesnt need a nerf, BUT armor needs a buff. The fact that armor doesnt provide enough defense to counterbalance the MD makes the MD seem OP (even though it isnt).
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 793	Posted - 2013.08.03 00:54:00 - [22] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Another lowtatehitman nerf projection...... I have been right 100% on with calling the nerfs ahead of time. Please spread the word on this one..... Do not skill into the Lazer rifle..... the allure of a red dot sight and the dmg buff it will be given to entice players to sink sp into it will be tempting, but it will get nerfed back down after about 1-2 months if the past timetables hold true. Dead Alliance Do Ignore, meh, you guys still have stuff in dust so... I'll bash Dreddit later And the MD's or AR's Exactly what was your point to start with? You want to bash * dreddit* we are easy to find on reddit or IRC.
McFurious TeamPlayers EoN. 223	Posted - 2013.08.03 01:05:00 - [23] - Quote Nerf the bonus explosives get on armor. It's stupid high.
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 14	Posted - 2013.08.03 01:10:00 - [24] - Quote Sorry for getting off topic but it keeps saying that people are replying to the topic as if I started it...WHAT IS THIS BLACK MAGIC!
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 989	Posted - 2013.08.03 01:27:00 - [25] - Quote Hellkeizer wrote: Sorry for getting off topic but it keeps saying that people are replying to the topic as if I started it...WHAT IS THIS BLACK MAGIC! You subscribed or tagged as favorite.
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 15	Posted - 2013.08.03 01:30:00 - [26] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Hellkeizer wrote: Sorry for getting off topic but it keeps saying that people are replying to the topic as if I started it...WHAT IS THIS BLACK MAGIC! You subscribed or tagged as favorite. Oh must've been pressing random buttons on my phone thank you for clarifying
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 835	Posted - 2013.08.03 01:34:00 - [27] - Quote yes i been requesting the MD to be nerfed asap but i have been a massholer for a sht ton long time, this nerf wheel spins and will stop on the next nerf bandwagon to be QQ'ed about, this crap goes full circle in all online games, the second nerf to the MD wony even suffice for in .75-1.5 years around 2014/15ish the MD will be even nerfed AGAIN, mark my words
Killar-12 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 391	Posted - 2013.08.03 01:41:00 - [28] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Killar-12 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Another lowtatehitman nerf projection...... I have been right 100% on with calling the nerfs ahead of time. Please spread the word on this one..... Do not skill into the Lazer rifle..... the allure of a red dot sight and the dmg buff it will be given to entice players to sink sp into it will be tempting, but it will get nerfed back down after about 1-2 months if the past timetables hold true. Dead Alliance Do Ignore, meh, you guys still have stuff in dust so... I'll bash Dreddit later And the MD's or AR's Exactly what was your point to start with? You want to bash * dreddit* we are easy to find on reddit or IRC. To confuse and confuddle everyone it's something that is will lead to me accusing people that they're my EVE toon so they get suicide ganked. Then again you have 300 kills and a secret network of spies across the new eden universe, please at least get this reference
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 793	Posted - 2013.08.03 02:02:00 - [29] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Killar-12 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Another lowtatehitman nerf projection...... I have been right 100% on with calling the nerfs ahead of time. Please spread the word on this one..... Do not skill into the Lazer rifle..... the allure of a red dot sight and the dmg buff it will be given to entice players to sink sp into it will be tempting, but it will get nerfed back down after about 1-2 months if the past timetables hold true. Dead Alliance Do Ignore, meh, you guys still have stuff in dust so... I'll bash Dreddit later And the MD's or AR's Exactly what was your point to start with? You want to bash * dreddit* we are easy to find on reddit or IRC. To confuse and confuddle everyone it's something that is will lead to me accusing people that they're my EVE toon so they get suicide ganked. Then again you have 300 kills and a secret network of spies across the new eden universe, please at least get this reference I am sorry, I do not play EVE
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 238	Posted - 2013.08.03 02:03:00 - [30] - Quote No DMG nerf for the MD. But I think it falls into better balance with a slightly slower rate of fire, maybe one less round and slower reload. Add more damage to the user in CQB and MD will be fine and truly a support weapon.



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