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Dusters Blog
Galactic News Network
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:55:00 -
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As the numbers of active Dust players continue to fall http://t.co/G0NaZCkD7u many will notice our blog has shifted into what can be done to improve the game. Why? In hopes that the issues preventing player retention and game growth can be resolved. Telling the stories of New Eden is nice, but is useless with the game still badly in need of better gameplay and more variety of experience. We cant in good conscience write about the dominant forces in Planetary Conquest when so many core aspects of the game are still broken or missing. We've seen the effects of this honesty take shape. Our last interview request [which we made over a month ago] with CCP has still gone unanswered. A CCP Dev has even blocked us on Twitter. We're unmoved however, while legions of 'yes men' may line up to tell CCP 'good job' by refusing to ask the hard questions, we have consistently criticized the poorer aspects of this game, which to date has been universally rejected by not only gaming media but also casual, hardcore and EVE players.
Anyone who is telling you 'everything is alright' is lying.There has always been a vocal troll element wishing for Dust to fail for one reason or another, that group has a twin that sings CCPs praises regardless of missteps. There has also been a reasonable group of gamers that want to see the game succeed but is willing to be critics when necessary, we consider ourselves part of the latter and we feel this group is critical.
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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:05:00 -
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bravo.
/applauds |
BullsON Parade
SamsClub
15
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:13:00 -
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Keep fighting the good fight Sir + 1 |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
781
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:28:00 -
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I thought the blog had died tbh
Its bad news for the blog when CCP puts out more blogs than you |
Dusters Blog
Galactic News Network
385
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:37:00 -
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Sadly there hasnt been enough good news. More importantly, is the game good enough to write about say, twice per week? Interest in the game is waning on many levels and even media is affected at this point. When is the last time you saw a boots on the ground episode? We can only hope CCP makes some timely changes. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
781
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:45:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:Sadly there hasnt been enough good news. More importantly, is the game good enough to write about say, twice per week? Interest in the game is waning on many levels and even media is affected at this point. When is the last time you saw a boots on the ground episode? We can only hope CCP makes some timely changes. Does anyone know the status of Dust 514 Exec Producer CCP Jian? [Brandon Laurino]
Easy enough stuff to write about for at least 1 blog per week
Good news or bad a blog is a blog and generally it yaps about what the community has been yapping about which has mostly been cal logi nerf, flaylock nerf, vehicles as usual, the invisible CCP blam and now wolfman took his job and where did the EP go to, blue donut in PC and how its died down, maybe the upcoming tourny where you name a planet if you win, guessing whats in 1.4, even more guessing with whats in 1.5, the general state of the game today, view from a vet, views from a noob,views from a vehicle guy, views from every type of player in the game, is CPM worth it? etc etc etc
If CCP can write a dev blog it should be damn easy for you to do one, write a blog on anything or you will die faster than DUST wil |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
1113
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:48:00 -
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Spread the word.
Tiercide. Variation over progression. Variants over tiers. New Eden over matchmaking. ISK over SP.
A revolution is characterised by rising yet unmet expectations. And considering the unmet expectations of these past months, change will come. |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
231
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:54:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote: When is the last time you saw a boots on the ground episode? ]
Bingo. he's saying the game isnt good enough to write about on a regular basis and most people here agree. most of that stuff u suggested is gossip.
name a planet? ccp blam? who gives a fuq? shouldnt the game be good first? |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
152
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:58:00 -
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I agree with the article 100%, especially the part about no health gap. The divide is too big and core shooter fans have spoken by rejecting the game almost completely.
its time for CCP to adapt their game strategy. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
781
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:05:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:Dusters Blog wrote: When is the last time you saw a boots on the ground episode? ] Bingo. he's saying the game isnt good enough to write about on a regular basis and most people here agree. most of that stuff u suggested is gossip. name a planet? ccp blam? who gives a fuq? shouldnt the game be good first?
Yet ignores the other examples i wrote down which can be filed under 'why the game isnt good yet' because of these this and that problems
Who cares if its gossip its all this blog is anyways half the time, made up anyways so no change ther |
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Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:08:00 -
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Sorry dude ive never really valued your opinions, if anything you do your up most to pick the horrible bits and bring it to forefront of every arguement which in the end of the day hurts everyone else. By decreasing the active user base. (Not saying your blog has that much influence, but bad publicity will put people off) you will hurt the fact people want to play, rather than just reading sh!tty reviews and sacking it off.
If you cant find the positives (in a unfinished game) and realise CCP's train of thought then your not much of a 'Journalist' Its easy to take the objective side of things going wrong. Rather than trying to pull users in and getting a better commetary(Un-biased) of the stuff thats going right. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Auxiliaries
630
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:22:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:. . OP POST . .
(Commenting as I'm reading:) I'm 100% with your stance on supporting the game thru necessary critisiscm.
I agree with Uprising build being what should've been shown (with exception of few big bugs). But I strongly disagree on the point that closed beta should've been delayed. Open beta, yes, definately at later time. But delaying the closed beta would've also delayed the bug fixing and especially the balancing process way too much!
As you pointed out, any wait before PS4 and new shooters hit the market is dangerous.
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LCB Holdings
Expert Intervention Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:33:00 -
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CCP Shangai likes to hate on criticism |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Top Men.
275
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:33:00 -
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Some good thoughts in there. A bit short, but hell. I'm no writer, not sure I could do much better!
Keep them coming! |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
265
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:00:00 -
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Blogs are OP nerf it |
Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:02:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Sorry dude ive never really valued your opinions, if anything you do your up most to pick the horrible bits and bring it to forefront of every arguement which in the end of the day hurts everyone else. By decreasing the active user base. (Not saying your blog has that much influence, but bad publicity will put people off) you will hurt the fact people want to play, rather than just reading sh!tty reviews and sacking it off.
If you cant find the positives (in a unfinished game) and realise CCP's train of thought then your not much of a 'Journalist' Its easy to take the objective side of things going wrong. Rather than trying to pull users in and getting a better commetary(Un-biased) of the stuff thats going right.
ur not making sense. the only people responsible for the horrible bits ur talking about is CCP. Not some blog that says murder taxis and flaylocks are horrible, fix them.
ign, gametrailers and basically every reviewer not named psu.com fried Dust 514. ur exactly the kind of fanboi hurting the game by not demanding quality. unfinished game? ur serious? u cant fall back on that excuse when ur taking peoples money. im glad they want 2 keep improving the game too but u still have to have a basic level of quality. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
614
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:11:00 -
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doesn't seem that different to me, the game peaked at release and has more or less stabled out with a slight gradual decline, depending on how they hype their next major content patch/version release, it would likely spike up again.
as for the legions of yes men, their are far more "NO" men in this community.
for every single "good job ccp your patch didn't suck this time" theres 20-30 threads and posts telling them how they can't even get dressed right.
anyway back to the point at hand, dust is currently in a **** state but they've openly acknowledged that fact and are working towards fixing i in the future, not sure what else you expect to get done aside from this.
step 1 - admit their is a problem
step 2 - figure out how to fix said problem
step 3 - fix the problem.
they are somewhere between step 2 and step 3. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:13:00 -
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Can't argue with most of the points, and quite well written.
A bit of feedback however, I found the white writing on a black background quite painful on my eyes after only a short time (its late at night so that probably doesn't help). This forum's grey background is much easier on the eyes imo. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
767
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:19:00 -
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Good read. Keep it up. The game deserves the reviews it got, from critics and fans. And Those that shouted the loudest for the FPS second to everything else, why are you then surprised that the FPS community rejected it? And then, some how blame the console FPS crowd? lol
Dust as a fps going to PC would get more stomped in the reviews than it did on consoles. PC? like home of the FPS? Yeah.
What audience was dust shooting for? No, don't think about it, just say it.
Dust 514 is a Lobby shooter. Not destiny. not defiance. not even red dead redemption. say it with me and accept it... LOBBY SHOOTER. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
614
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:22:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Good read. Keep it up. The game deserves the reviews it got, from critics and fans. And Those that shouted the loudest for the FPS second to everything else, why are you then surprised that the FPS community rejected it? And then, some how blame the console FPS crowd? lol
Dust as a fps going to PC would get more stomped in the reviews than it did on consoles. PC? like home of the FPS? Yeah.
What audience was dust shooting for? No, don't think about it, just say it.
Dust 514 is a Lobby shooter. Not destiny. not defiance. not even red dead redemption. say it with me and accept it... LOBBY SHOOTER.
yep it's definitely a lobby shooter, sad but true, but I love lobby shooters, I grew up with unreal tournament so doesn't bother me all that much, I do SERIOUSLY hope that improves in the future but eithe way as long as there is more shooter to my lobby i'd be happy for awhile. |
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RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
265
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:49:00 -
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My main thought on the matter is with all that has been conceptualized and thrown into the list of things DUST will have in it stated by CCP themselves, they really need some more production power.
I don't know their internal corporate workings of course, but what I do know is what most other players know they have their new operation in Shanghai, they've stated their huge intentions with this game, and they've taken the leap.
At this point you're freefalling, past the point of no return. I would think they need to hire ALOT more people to do what everyone has been talking about. If they're going to say that this game is going to stand side by side to eve, then it would seem obvious to me that on the start of said project you'd have the plan and the ability to back it up.
If not then you had better start filling in the ranks and doing what it takes to make this game an EVE equivalent in the genre it was made for. Don't say you're making EVE's brother with full intention to make it great with only the ability do very little very slowly. People say CCP is a small company and all of that, but again, if you're going to say you are going all in on this project, and EVE has made you as rich as everyone says, then do it! Jump dammit! Do what it takes to make this game what it was meant for, or back out say sorry, we didn't mean to get you excited for nothing any time soon.tm |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
845
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:51:00 -
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IMHO, the problem with the health gap is that there is absolutely zero penalty for doing nothing but stacking tank.
If there is no drawback, why not stack a ******** amount of shield extenders on your suit?
They need to tie Sig Profile and Shields together, more shield mods you have fitted, the higher your Sig Profile becomes, higher Sig Profile should mean easier to see (even if it makes it so that you are visible from forever away like in Chromosome) and more vulnerable to certain damage sources (just like in Eve).
I agree with your comments about yes-men though, which is part of the reason I am the way I am with all of the ******* asshat sycophants here on the forums.
All carrots and no sticks is a bad thing, praise should be given when it is due, though they shouldn't be coddled when they **** up (lol, HTFU CCP!!!).
I also agree that we need more than two game modes (ONE AND ONLY IS JUST ******* SKIRMISH GODDAMNIT), FW needs to have real meaningful impact (both for Dust Mercs and Eggers) and PC needs to not just be Farmville.
Dust has a lot of potential, but it also has a really long way to go to fulfill that potential. |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
157
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:10:00 -
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I think CCP is too slow to keep most people interested. It takes them months to implement simple fixes. All they had to do was implement a basic form of pve so we can just chill with our friends and that would have keep most of us content for at least 2-3 months.
Whoever is leading the dust development is driving it into the ground. When the ps4 comes out this game isnt up to par you will see a lot of big corporations leave only to return once every 2 months or so.
The reason you see so much hate on the forums is because people really want this game to succeed. if they didn't they would just leave without saying much. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
3742
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:04:00 -
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BASK IN MY GLORIOUS NEW PLAYER FRIENDLY IDEA! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97244 |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3830
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:43:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Sorry dude ive never really valued your opinions, if anything you do your up most to pick the horrible bits and bring it to forefront of every arguement which in the end of the day hurts everyone else. By decreasing the active user base. (Not saying your blog has that much influence, but bad publicity will put people off) you will hurt the fact people want to play, rather than just reading sh!tty reviews and sacking it off.
If you cant find the positives (in a unfinished game) and realise CCP's train of thought then your not much of a 'Journalist' Its easy to take the objective side of things going wrong. Rather than trying to pull users in and getting a better commetary(Un-biased) of the stuff thats going right. ^ I think we're doing as much damage to player numbers as the game's quality. Dust has its problems but throwing fuel on the fire never helps. Still, this is as non-biased as you'll really get from journalism in electronic entertainment. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
179
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:58:00 -
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CCP dug it's own grave with Dust. They took the Eve policy of no repecs. Develope with the PC mentality. Unable to balance, internal testing is fine release it to the masses, then nerf if. Wiith no no respec option. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
243
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:14:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:As the numbers of active Dust players continue to fall http://t.co/G0NaZCkD7u many will notice our blog has shifted into what can be done to improve the game. Why? In hopes that the issues preventing player retention and game growth can be resolved. Telling the stories of New Eden is nice, but is useless with the game still badly in need of better gameplay and more variety of experience. We cant in good conscience write about the dominant forces in Planetary Conquest when so many core aspects of the game are still broken or missing. We've seen the effects of this honesty take shape. Our last interview request [which we made over a month ago] with CCP has still gone unanswered. A CCP Dev has even blocked us on Twitter. We're unmoved however, while legions of 'yes men' may line up to tell CCP 'good job' by refusing to ask the hard questions, we have consistently criticized the poorer aspects of this game, which to date has been universally rejected by not only gaming media but also casual, hardcore and EVE players. Anyone who is telling you 'everything is alright' is lying.There has always been a vocal troll element wishing for Dust to fail for one reason or another, that group has a twin that sings CCPs praises regardless of missteps. There has also been a reasonable group of gamers that want to see the game succeed but is willing to be critics when necessary, we consider ourselves part of the latter and we feel this group is critical. read the rest here: http://tinyurl.com/n2dwf3g
also, some of us have played fps's before... and this isn't the first time we've had d-bags talking about player counts. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
568
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:20:00 -
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Gimble already stated that Boots on the Ground was being delayed until sometime in August. Not sure why you were looking for more episodes of it. |
Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:58:00 -
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smh, now we hear that the exec producer got fired, demoted or left. he's only been there since 2011 so this is now the third exec producer. Who the hell is running things over there? Stop hiring scrubs and pay for a real ep. What ur doing isnt working ccp! |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
233
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:22:00 -
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huge issue imo. if jian wasnt the first guy then the next guy they hire will be the third. three eps in this short period? something is really wrong.
the real question is did he leave or was he let go? theres a chance he was hired to clean up the first guys mess but was given the right tools, personnel or time frame for a proper fix and he just said screw it and left rather than have Dust 514 on his resume for other companies to think he was the one responsible for this mess they call an MMO.
if he had bad programmers that couldnt code fps how was he supposed to fix that? |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2632
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:28:00 -
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If you look at the "year" graph, it's actually growing slightly.
Your argument is now invalid |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
233
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:35:00 -
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Dude please tell me ur not being serious.
I want to hear from ccp jian. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
439
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:43:00 -
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good blog, speaks truth in droves,
but consider that CCP does things the way it does because this all just an experiment to them... look at 10 years of EVE...how bland and unfriendly it was to new players and where it is now...granted for an FPS they have many templates to look a to make a successful fps... but wouldn't that just make them a copy cat?
I don't believe CCP needs any of us to keep dust going at this point.... a year from now they could have a viable product remarketed to a whole new crowd and get just as many if not more people to try it out... face it we are test subjects and be damned if we stay or go....this I beleive is at the heart of their evil genius |
Ninjanomyx
One Who Bears Fangs At GOD
128
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:49:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:Sadly there hasnt been enough good news. More importantly, is the game good enough to write about say, twice per week? Interest in the game is waning on many levels and even media is affected at this point. When is the last time you saw a boots on the ground episode? We can only hope CCP makes some timely changes. Does anyone know the status of Dust 514 Exec Producer CCP Jian? [Brandon Laurino] Easy enough stuff to write about for at least 1 blog per week Good news or bad a blog is a blog and generally it yaps about what the community has been yapping about which has mostly been cal logi nerf, flaylock nerf, vehicles as usual, the invisible CCP blam and now wolfman took his job and where did the EP go to, blue donut in PC and how its died down, maybe the upcoming tourny where you name a planet if you win, guessing whats in 1.4, even more guessing with whats in 1.5, the general state of the game today, view from a vet, views from a noob,views from a vehicle guy, views from every type of player in the game, is CPM worth it? etc etc etc If CCP can write a dev blog it should be damn easy for you to do one, write a blog on anything or you will die faster than DUST wil
Bad "Reporter" gets told to quit. Bad "Reporter" continues to Fail. He is already Dead..... This is simply a last-ditch effort to save face. This Blog Post, as Valid as it may be, is just as bad as an attempt to Necro a Thread |
Ninjanomyx
One Who Bears Fangs At GOD
128
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:58:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:I think CCP is too slow to keep most people interested. It takes them months to implement simple fixes. All they had to do was implement a basic form of pve so we can just chill with our friends and that would have keep most of us content for at least 2-3 months.
Whoever is leading the dust development is driving it into the ground. When the ps4 comes out this game isnt up to par you will see a lot of big corporations leave only to return once every 2 months or so.
The reason you see so much hate on the forums is because people really want this game to succeed. if they didn't they would just leave without saying much.
Agreed. This Game had the Foresight of Rain Man with the Ambition of Julius Caesar. Now we have only Captain Hindsight & some Kids rolling around in Silly Puddy shooting Silly String @ their Pets |
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