DUST Search - I hear people say "The game should not be balanced around ISK"

pegasis prime wrote:

Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:

I think you are missing a few things:

- While AV causes a lot of damage if it downs a tank, it doesn't do much anything else. It doesn't nearly have the battlefield presence that a tank has, nor does it provide nearly the amount of rewards.

- A tank will leave a path of destruction that can easily rival whatever the AV takes out over the duration of a game. You don't have to cause all that loss to the AV guy to "get even".

- Everyone is infantry. Vehicles are not an alternative to infantry, they are an add on. You pay for the additional power, and it ensures that vehicles are not fielded thoughtlessly in every battle.

I'm not saying that vehicles are fine, they are clearly not, I just don't agree with your reasonings for balancing around ISK. I believe that vehicles should always be a luxury, to keep their usage on public servers in check (and at least when it comes to tanks, nobody can say that we don't see enough of them being used already...).

Sorry but you are wrong vehicle's are not an upgrade or side gradw but we are a specilisation just as much as a logi is a specilisation where did you get the idea tgat we are a luxury we are a specilisation of our own . If you are neither av specilised adv and above or a vehicle specilist then you have no oppinion.


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Csikszent Mihalyi DUST University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2013.08.02 12:35:00 - [1] - Quote I think you are missing a few things: - While AV causes a lot of damage if it downs a tank, it doesn't do much anything else. It doesn't nearly have the battlefield presence that a tank has, nor does it provide nearly the amount of rewards. - A tank will leave a path of destruction that can easily rival whatever the AV takes out over the duration of a game. You don't have to cause all that loss to the AV guy to "get even". - Everyone is infantry. Vehicles are not an alternative to infantry, they are an add on. You pay for the additional power, and it ensures that vehicles are not fielded thoughtlessly in every battle. I'm not saying that vehicles are fine, they are clearly not, I just don't agree with your reasonings for balancing around ISK. I believe that vehicles should always be a luxury, to keep their usage on public servers in check (and at least when it comes to tanks, nobody can say that we don't see enough of them being used already...).
Csikszent Mihalyi DUST University Ivy League 10	Posted - 2013.08.02 13:12:00 - [2] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: I think you are missing a few things: - While AV causes a lot of damage if it downs a tank, it doesn't do much anything else. It doesn't nearly have the battlefield presence that a tank has, nor does it provide nearly the amount of rewards. - A tank will leave a path of destruction that can easily rival whatever the AV takes out over the duration of a game. You don't have to cause all that loss to the AV guy to "get even". - Everyone is infantry. Vehicles are not an alternative to infantry, they are an add on. You pay for the additional power, and it ensures that vehicles are not fielded thoughtlessly in every battle. I'm not saying that vehicles are fine, they are clearly not, I just don't agree with your reasonings for balancing around ISK. I believe that vehicles should always be a luxury, to keep their usage on public servers in check (and at least when it comes to tanks, nobody can say that we don't see enough of them being used already...). Sorry but you are wrong vehicle's are not an upgrade or side gradw but we are a specilisation just as much as a logi is a specilisation where did you get the idea tgat we are a luxury we are a specilisation of our own . If you are neither av specilised adv and above or a vehicle specilist then you have no oppinion. Because you are still in a suit. You lose your vehicle, you don't lose your clone. You can't use a vehicle without a suit. Pilot suits will be a specialisation, but vehicles are an add on, that's just how it is. We can call in vehicles at any time to give us an edge on the battlefield, it takes nothing away from us aside from ISK. What you specialise your SP on is your choice. On my previous main char I'm a dropship pilot, so I know all about not making a profit on the battlefield... A adapted. Dropships need fixing, but they don't need to become consistently profitable to have a place in the game.
Csikszent Mihalyi DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2013.08.02 13:58:00 - [3] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: You sir have compleatly missed the point about vehicleur warfair we are not a luxuray or a bloody side grade will you still class us as a luxury when we have oir pilot suits ? Oh you probably just want to play cod 514 with no vehicles . Ds are anotger matter but we are not a sidegrsde our chosen SPECIALLITY is much more sp intensive than any dropsuit and costs a hell of allot more than any dropsuit . WE ARE NOT A LUXURY OR SIDEGRADE BUT A SPECILISATION OF OUR OWN AND DO DESERVE TO MAKE A PROFIT FROM OUR EFFORTS . if you cant fathom that then you have no place in this game or being a part time ds pilot lo fing l . Wow, I'm kind of concerned about that foam around your mouth. But I'll make one last try to clarify: - Of course vehicles are a specialisation, but they are not an alternative to dropsuits. You are still in a suit. You don't spawn in as a vehicle, and your clone is not tied to the vehicle. You can call in and recall a vehicle at any time. Vehicles are an add on by design, if you don't understand this then I don't know what else to say. - I'm not the one crying to CCP that the game doesn't match what I thought it would be. Contrary to popular opinion, games are not designed by throwing dice and putting random numbers together, so the current pricing structure of vehicles was a very conscious decision. - My intention is not to tell anybody that they can't drive vehicles 24/7. If you can make it work, then more power to you. Just don't go around complaining that you can't easily make a living on public servers. Maybe ask your squad mates to contribute, if your efforts help them out so much. Be creative. You don't need CCP to hand you everything on a silver platter.