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Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.08.02 08:57:00 -
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I'll just address your first point for now - the SMG and AR both have spread/dispersion; the scrambler pistol does not. In fact, I have no idea what that accuracy number means but it definitely does not mean 50% of your shots will not go exactly where you point. I have used the scrambler pistol and SMG exclusively for at least the last 6 months and can unequivocally state that pistol shots go exactly where you aim 100% of the time. The problem you are most likely experiencing is that hit detection is still bad and hit boxes lag behind moving players.
Oh and I never ADS because I don't like iron sights. That 100% accuracy is with hip-fire. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:09:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Django Quik wrote:I'll just address your first point for now - the SMG and AR both have spread/dispersion; the scrambler pistol does not. In fact, I have no idea what that accuracy number means but it definitely does not mean 50% of your shots will not go exactly where you point. I have used the scrambler pistol and SMG exclusively for at least the last 6 months and can unequivocally state that pistol shots go exactly where you aim 100% of the time. The problem you are most likely experiencing is that hit detection is still bad and hit boxes lag behind moving players. shoot at a wall and you will see the dispersion. The breach variant has 10 points above the regular one. 53 regular, 63 breack. Shots with the breach are more spot on even when pacing myself with the normal one. There is spread on them. I use it as a main and am seeing the spread every day I use it. Use it for 10 matches in a row and it will enfuriate you when you know it was spot on but you see it miss.... Also if you are using SMG and scram pistol exclusively then that mean you are actually using SMG as main and finishing of with scram pistol; making you not notice what the weapon is lacking. Test it out. Take and AR and shoot at a wall Then empty a scrambler pistol clip at the wall; you will see the spread Lol, you are so wrong - I use the pistol as my main and SMG as finisher/back up. (FYI scrambler does extra damage to shields and SMG does extra damage to armour)
There is no spread. Trust me. Until a few weeks ago I used only the assault variants, with much faster ROF and it always shoots exactly where I aim, even when firing 12 shots in a row. Even using the militia variant. I've used these bad boys as my main for over 6 months, so don't tell me I need to test them out; I have done so for a long time.
Plus, shooting at a wall is not a good measure of how accurate the weapon is - try headshotting an unsuspecting sniper from behind at 20m. If you get that reticule right on the head, you will hit the head 100% of the time. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:30:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:spread does nt acount for the first shot. also spread on the assaullt is much more notriceable. as for scrambler pistol as main with an smg backup tells me you find yourself using that smg more times than not. You trying to tell me how I play? Ask anyone who has ever played with or against me - I am one of the biggest proponents of pistols in this game. You making assumptions like that just make you look like you've got even less of a clue.
There is no spread on scrambler pistols. Zero. Just like the other laser weapons, the scrambler rifle and laser rifle. 100% accurate.
Edit - just for kicks I logged in to check the stats on the SCR and laser and guess what - accuracy ratings of ~50. Yet everyone here talks about how pinpoint accurate they are and that the SCR is better than the AR because it has no spread or kick! Like I said, I have no idea what the accuracy rating number actually means but it is nothing like you seem to think it is. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:43:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:
Yes I am aware of the headshot damage. But As I am logi and only use one weapon. The scram pistol does not apply the damage everyone is saying. This I expect Is because they use two weapons so if one falls short they don't notice. Most people have posted about headshots but TBH the falloff of the weapon starts so early that even with a headshot at 30m the damage is already low enough to only do regular damage. As for people saying it only akes 2 or three shots; it might be possible with the breach variant but the RPM is so low and the aiming so inconsistent that it outright falls short of it's description.
In this post I haven't said to change anything on the weapon except the accuracy rating; which for a weapon of this type should be higher than an SMG or an AR. Some have said this is wanting a crutch but; how is it a crutch to actually want the weapon to shoot where I aim it. There is no crutch possible with the scrambler pistol. I'm not asking for auto aim, I'm asking for the devs to make the gun "Pin-Point" and not have the rating of an SMG.
If the commentors have really used this weapon as they all say they do; and all talk as if they where experts with the weapon, then they should have noticed something peculiar. The breach is a lot more accurate than the regular or the assault variiants. Even when counting 1 Mississippi in between shots for the regular one. This is because of the rating. The normal scrambler pistos has a rating of 54 and the breach a rating of 63.
I like how you've completely ignored my point that the accuracy rating is irrelevant because the scrambler rifle and laser both have perfect accuracy but similarly ~50 accuracy stats. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:53:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:There is a big misconception about what spread and accuracy rating is; I will give a brief explenation.
Spread is what happpens when you shoot your weapon. This is was causes the crosshairs to get larger and larger; accuracy rating is how probable the weapon is going to hit the center of that spread. I'll give an example:
When one shoots a scrambler pistol the cross hairs get extra large (larger than most weapons) making the 50% accuracy shoot anywhere in between that extra large cross in the next shot.
The scrambler rifle barely gets any spread when fires; only minimal, meaning that the crosshairs don't get that much farther apart making it's accuracy rating not matter.
The laser rifle has no spread whatsoever. This means it's crosshairs NEVER get larger. This means the weapon could have a an accuracy rating of 1 and still hit it's mark Ok I get what you're actually experiencing now - when you fire a scrambler pistol and the reticule widens, it makes it harder to aim. However if you still manage to get the center of the reticule where you want to fire, you will hit that spot.
As for your explanation of the accuracy rating, I'd like to know your source because it sounds like a bunch of conjecture. |
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