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SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:47:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:N7 JETI wrote:The Assault has the highest EHP and CPU/PG among the assault suits,great for hybrid tanking,great for using laser weaponry and has so much stamina.
The Logistic is very very very versatile,especially good for AV roles.
My advice is to train both,youre not gonna regret it. Ok. I have complex shields, complex damage mods. enhanced regulators, enhanced armor reppers, enhanced armor, advanced ASCR, lvl 4 scrambler pistol, adv shotgun, proto with prof 3, advanced swarm, and a ton of basic stuff like my explosives. I have around 7.4 million SP in total. I have mostly lvl 3 some 5 core skills. I'm saving for full Amarr. How much SP will I need for just the advanced logi?
Go into your skill tree, over to Amarr logi. Spec into it once, after that you can find out how much SP you need to skill into logi. I have it adv. right now and I'm about 190+mil away from getting logistics. I don't know if that helps. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
557
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:55:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:N7 JETI wrote:The Assault has the highest EHP and CPU/PG among the assault suits,great for hybrid tanking,great for using laser weaponry and has so much stamina.
The Logistic is very very very versatile,especially good for AV roles.
My advice is to train both,youre not gonna regret it. Ok. I have complex shields, complex damage mods. enhanced regulators, enhanced armor reppers, enhanced armor, advanced ASCR, lvl 4 scrambler pistol, adv shotgun, proto with prof 3, advanced swarm, and a ton of basic stuff like my explosives. I have around 7.4 million SP in total. I have mostly lvl 3 some 5 core skills. I'm saving for full Amarr. How much SP will I need for just the advanced logi? I think it's almost precisely 500k SP to bring a specialised suit skill from 1 to 3.
Unless you meant for the full equipment specs... in which case I'd say about 1 million for Nanocircuitry V and 70k for Uplinks II covers what I'd consider important? If you want to be a repper then another 1 mil for Remote Repair in addition, the holy grail of repping is the prototype Core Focused at level 5. |
Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
168
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:04:00 -
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Amarr logi with shield energizers, complex armor reps. I think this could be a very good regen/EHP combo due to high initial EHP on the suit. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
862
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:34:00 -
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I'd say Amarr Logi.
Depending on your skills, you can get some nice EHP out of it and some nice regen rates. Also the fact it has a sidearm makes it fall into a combat logi role as well.
I think of the Amarr Logi as a true Amarr Assault suit variant. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
244
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:39:00 -
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i prefer the amarr logi, but i almost always use the first tier racial suit. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
152
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:48:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I wouldn't spend a single point of SP until we have confirmation there will be a respec on or before 1.5. Dude, they already said no........ Source? Also, its obvious that the amarr logi bonus is changing... you cannot and should not make a decision based on racial bonuses. If anything, choose which one you think looks prettier.. that's about all you have to go on until 1.4 changes are announced. I would be very leary of choosing amarr logi cause of the logi passive armor reps, I have a sneaking suspicion that bonus is going away as well.
Where's the actual reason and logic behind thinking they would specifically remove the passive hp repair on just the amarr logi, no offense but you sound like your projecting your hopes as a possibility. |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:50:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I wouldn't spend a single point of SP until we have confirmation there will be a respec on or before 1.5. Dude, they already said no........ ZDub 303: **** |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1455
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:03:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I wouldn't spend a single point of SP until we have confirmation there will be a respec on or before 1.5. Dude, they already said no........ Source? Also, its obvious that the amarr logi bonus is changing... you cannot and should not make a decision based on racial bonuses. If anything, choose which one you think looks prettier.. that's about all you have to go on until 1.4 changes are announced. I would be very leary of choosing amarr logi cause of the logi passive armor reps, I have a sneaking suspicion that bonus is going away as well. Where's the actual reason and logic behind thinking they would specifically remove the passive hp repair on just the amarr logi, no offense but you sound like your projecting your hopes as a possibility.
It's one of things that makes logis preferred by many for frontline assault. Now amarr logi doesn't even have to sacrifice the sidearm slot for it.
I dunno why anyone would even think about making a class choice right now when its clear all of the logi bonuses (at the minimum) are changing. They've already said they are making changes to discourage logis from focusing on frontline combat.
I'm not projecting anything, shoot i have no clue what's going to happen. Just a word of warning that we've already receive confirmation that medium suits (likely most other frames as well) are recieving a balance pass in 1.4. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
862
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:11:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I wouldn't spend a single point of SP until we have confirmation there will be a respec on or before 1.5. Dude, they already said no........ Source? Also, its obvious that the amarr logi bonus is changing... you cannot and should not make a decision based on racial bonuses. If anything, choose which one you think looks prettier.. that's about all you have to go on until 1.4 changes are announced. I would be very leary of choosing amarr logi cause of the logi passive armor reps, I have a sneaking suspicion that bonus is going away as well. Where's the actual reason and logic behind thinking they would specifically remove the passive hp repair on just the amarr logi, no offense but you sound like your projecting your hopes as a possibility. It's one of things that makes logis preferred by many for frontline assault. Now amarr logi doesn't even have to sacrifice the sidearm slot for it. I dunno why anyone would even think about making a class choice right now when its clear all of the logi bonuses (at the minimum) are changing. They've already said they are making changes to discourage logis from focusing on frontline combat. I'm not projecting anything, shoot i have no clue what's going to happen. Just a word of warning that we've already receive confirmation that medium suits (likely most other frames as well) are recieving a balance pass in 1.4.
The Amarr are armor tankers though, it makes sense for the Logi bonus to be armor related. Why would CCP remove a bonus that falls in line with their lore and core tanking method as a race? |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1456
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:25:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:The Amarr are armor tankers though, it makes sense for the Logi bonus to be armor related. Why would CCP remove a bonus that falls in line with their lore and core tanking method as a race?
Who knows why the devs do some of the things they do lol.
I'm not trying to start an argument on balance vs not.. all I'm saying is that the devs have already stated racial bonuses are changing. I would not expect anything you guys are discussing here today to carry over into 1.4. They might or they might not.. but we have direct confirmation from CCP that dropsuits are changing. |
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Sloth9230
Deepspace Digital
2593
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:33:00 -
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Look, Zdub is right on this, don't choose suits based on bonuses, they may or may not be changing, but they are being looked at, especially logistics bonuses. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
52
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:09:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:This is my plan: Adv. Assault Proto Logi With those suits including my standard suits as well, I will use the SR, ASR, Sp(Sidearm), LR, and swarm launcher accordingly.
This is exactly what I'm doing, though I'm sticking with CalAssault b/c that's what all my free suits are and I want to add the bonuses to them. If you don't have the free C-1's, then sticking with just one race will obviously save you some SP. Costs a little more SP obviously but I'm trying to get as much versatility as I can in this game without totally screwing myself.
Two things about comparing/calculating SP costs: Don't waste the SP on level one just to figure that out unless you are 100% sure that's what you are going into. You can find a lot of the numbers looking in the market or certainly they are available online. I will confirm that going from level 1 to level 3 in any assault or logi costs just under 500k (it's like 493 or 497 if you want a more precise number). Can't say about scout or heavy since I don't know, but would assume it would be the same too. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
92
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:10:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Look, Zdub is right on this, don't choose suits based on bonuses, they may or may not be changing, but they are being looked at, especially logistics bonuses. I am not. I chose it because of it's EHP, and I could have alot of roles like AV, sniper, armor tanker, shield tanker, mixed sweeper, and I already have the best modules for the suit (or almost). |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
211
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Posted - 2013.08.03 03:15:00 -
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assault if you just want to kill stuff, and logi is you want to put more focus into equipment and suppport your actal teammates. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
158
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:07:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I wouldn't spend a single point of SP until we have confirmation there will be a respec on or before 1.5. Dude, they already said no........ Source? Also, its obvious that the amarr logi bonus is changing... you cannot and should not make a decision based on racial bonuses. If anything, choose which one you think looks prettier.. that's about all you have to go on until 1.4 changes are announced. I would be very leary of choosing amarr logi cause of the logi passive armor reps, I have a sneaking suspicion that bonus is going away as well. Where's the actual reason and logic behind thinking they would specifically remove the passive hp repair on just the amarr logi, no offense but you sound like your projecting your hopes as a possibility. It's one of things that makes logis preferred by many for frontline assault. Now amarr logi doesn't even have to sacrifice the sidearm slot for it. I dunno why anyone would even think about making a class choice right now when its clear all of the logi bonuses (at the minimum) are changing. They've already said they are making changes to discourage logis from focusing on frontline combat. I'm not projecting anything, shoot i have no clue what's going to happen. Just a word of warning that we've already receive confirmation that medium suits (likely most other frames as well) are recieving a balance pass in 1.4.
Yeah but the amarr logi IS the assault logi as stated in its description, now working as intended.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
158
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:14:00 -
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If they removed the 5hp bonus I'd stick an armour repair mod instead of an armour plate. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
232
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:17:00 -
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Players asking if they should go assault or logistics to fulfill their role as an assault on the battlefield.
Loving it. |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven EoN.
739
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:22:00 -
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I'm Proto Amarr Assault with Proto Laser Rifle coupled with Proficiency 5 and loving it. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
94
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:41:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Players asking if they should go assault or logistics to fulfill their role as an assault on the battlefield. Loving it. It's designed to be an assault logi. Unlike those CalLogi abusers... I always though of the CalLogi as a nurse :p |
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