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BullsON Parade
SamsClub
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:20:00 -
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As well intended going to 6 man squads on ccp's part there is a major flaw in it. By allowing one group of merc to compete with nearly half of the combat group being on comms and potentialy vets it tips the scales a bit too far. Thus people complaining about match makeing.
Solution: 1; Set squad size back to 4
2; Increase player count per map
There will always be a good group runnng pub matches, but to mitigate their presence this would do a whole lot towards the cause. : Assuming the ass hats are not sinc cuing...
I am no hero.... Just someone not absorbed by their own selfish ideas to better themselves before the community |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood
888
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:24:00 -
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its more of a problem to NOT be able to play with friends. I care more about playing with the guys I am actually in a corp with than the feelings of the blueberries on the other team who won't amount to anything anyway. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
161
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:25:00 -
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No.
There are 6 slots so a squad can be more versatile. Example: 2 heavys, 2 logis a scout and a AV assault could demolish people IF they were organized enough.
You just got pubstomped so hard that you had to make a post about it! |
BullsON Parade
SamsClub
12
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:26:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:its more of a problem to NOT be able to play with friends. I care more about playing with the guys I am actually in a corp with than the feelings of the blueberries on the other team who won't amount to anything anyway.
So you are for increasing player cap per map over smaller squads.. Ok now we are getting some where |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1413
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:26:00 -
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BullsON Parade wrote:As well intended going to 6 man squads on ccp's part there is a major flaw in it. By allowing one group of merc to compete with nearly half of the combat group being on comms and potentialy vets it tips the scales a bit too far. Thus people complaining about match makeing.
Solution: 1; Set squad size back to 4
2; Increase player count per map
There will always be a good group runnng pub matches, but to mitigate their presence this would do a whole lot towards the cause. : Assuming the ass hats are not sinc cuing...
I am no hero.... Just someone not absorbed by their own selfish ideas to better themselves before the community
Yes. QFT |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
881
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:31:00 -
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I say we keep 6 man squads, but we desperately need squad-free modes to compensate for it. I can only take so much slaughter playing solo in ambush, and no doubt it is killing the game for many other players who like to play solo (like a lot of new players).
Squad-free is just another one of those derp ideas that would exponentially make the game more fun and interesting, yet the devs refuse to try it. At the very least have it for ambush!! That mode is almost unplayable with all the team stacking going on (who also happen to bring in a lot of tanks, murder-taxis, proto suits and dropships to add salt to the wound). |
BullsON Parade
SamsClub
13
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:36:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:No.
There are 6 slots so a squad can be more versatile. Example: 2 heavys, 2 logis a scout and a AV assault could demolish people IF they were organized enough.
You just got pubstomped so hard that you had to make a post about it!
Lol ! I get a kick out of the shi/ttys talking about pub stomp as it pertains to them ...but If you were capable of reading you would see 2 .... Count them two options.. Larger player count or smaller squad...
Oh..... When you get off of work ... Bring me back some big macs |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
433
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:38:00 -
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I disagree 6 is good... and it would be better if we could deploy full squads of 16 that way we don't have to deal with random stupid blueberries |
BullsON Parade
SamsClub
13
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:40:00 -
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BullsON Parade wrote:As well intended going to 6 man squads on ccp's part there is a major flaw in it. By allowing one group of merc to compete with nearly half of the combat group being on comms and potentialy vets it tips the scales a bit too far. Thus people complaining about match makeing.
Solution: 1; Set squad size back to 4
2; Increase player count per map
There will always be a good group runnng pub matches, but to mitigate their presence this would do a whole lot towards the cause. : Assuming the ass hats are not sinc cuing...
I am no hero.... Just someone not absorbed by their own selfish ideas to better themselves before the community Aparentky i need to repost to reiterate that there are two choices....ffs |
Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
38
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:56:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I say we keep 6 man squads, but we desperately need squad-free modes to compensate for it. I can only take so much slaughter playing solo in ambush, and no doubt it is killing the game for many other players who like to play solo (like a lot of new players).
Squad-free is just another one of those derp ideas that would exponentially make the game more fun and interesting, yet the devs refuse to try it. At the very least have it for ambush!! That mode is almost unplayable with all the team stacking going on (who also happen to bring in a lot of tanks, murder-taxis, proto suits and dropships to add salt to the wound). This man speaks the truth! |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
925
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:24:00 -
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Since they are changing FW to a matchmaking system that you can carry 16 people in with you, I agree that instant battles need to go down to 4 man squads or a larger player count. If you want to play with more than 3 friends do faction warfare.
Also go Texans! |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
152
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:29:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I say we keep 6 man squads, but we desperately need squad-free modes to compensate for it. I can only take so much slaughter playing solo in ambush, and no doubt it is killing the game for many other players who like to play solo (like a lot of new players).
Squad-free is just another one of those derp ideas that would exponentially make the game more fun and interesting, yet the devs refuse to try it. At the very least have it for ambush!! That mode is almost unplayable with all the team stacking going on (who also happen to bring in a lot of tanks, murder-taxis, proto suits and dropships to add salt to the wound).
While this is a good idea, I'm not sure the player count can support it. It's sort of a catch 22. |
BullsON Parade
SamsClub
15
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:06:00 -
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Having squad free is not much of a solution in my opinion. Squads are neccesary. However a squad needs to be diluted by the rest of the team other wise proto squads dominate completely especially when they start bringing in tanks and llav's. I think that a squad should at max only make up around 20% of the entire team. So... 20 vs 20 = squads of 4 and so on. Squads should win all out but with **** poor spawning and the use of drop uplinks in ambush maps, only the elite are able to compensate and finish the battle with a decent showing. |
Protocake JR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
363
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:13:00 -
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ITT: People who do not know what a squad is.
OP is right. For instant battle, limit squad size to 4 for exactly the same reasons as stated in the OP.
What most people are asking for is for a "Team deploy" mechanic. They are currently working on this for FW so that you can group up with 15 of your buddies for a match. |
Glori Jinn
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
42
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:21:00 -
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Are drop uplinks still locked to squad use only? (Not played for a little while! )
Personally that's what stops me trying to randonly squad up in pub matches.
G |
BullsON Parade
SamsClub
15
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:35:00 -
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Glori Jinn wrote:Are drop uplinks still locked to squad use only? (Not played for a little while! ) Personally that's what stops me trying to randonly squad up in pub matches. G
I beleave that the hacked uplinks are still team wide hile the other are just for your squad. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
929
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:44:00 -
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Glori Jinn wrote:Are drop uplinks still locked to squad use only? (Not played for a little while! ) Personally that's what stops me trying to randomly squad up in pub matches. G All uplinks have been fixed to be team-wide. I know that bugged me a lot in Chromosome. |
Glori Jinn
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
43
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Posted - 2013.08.05 08:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:All uplinks have been fixed to be team-wide. I know that bugged me a lot in Chromosome.
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
461
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Posted - 2013.08.05 08:33:00 -
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no no no no no no no no no!
This is going WAY too far. What's the use of being involved in a brutal war if you want mummy and duddy always interfering with what's fair and/or not??
So what we are outnumbered or they are outnumbered? If the odds present itself to be unbeatable that only means the odds was good at convincing you to tell yourself all is lost. Odds can be good liars.
No, we don't need this happening.
You know when Craig was getting his butt whooped by Deebo, the mother kept wanting to comfort him. Dad, said no. Let him fight his own battles. Let him be a man. |
The Robot Devil
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
807
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Posted - 2013.08.05 09:29:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1050070#post1050070 |
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dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
287
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Posted - 2013.08.05 10:50:00 -
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We need unlimited squad size IMO. Why the artificial limits? |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
90
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Posted - 2013.08.05 11:27:00 -
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I believe its 6 men so you can fill a dropship |
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