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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6861
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:58:00 -
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Either way guys there are hundreds of things in these dumps that are just old, used, and no longer published or no longer being planned for. So just like a crystal ball use these with ultimate caution. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
305
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:04:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Either way guys there are hundreds of things in these dumps that are just old, used, and no longer published or no longer being planned for. So just like a crystal ball use these with ultimate caution.
Like I said, I was only discussing the things I noticed were relevant and new. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
2811
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:06:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Community: "GIVE US MORE CONTENT" CCP: Working on it.
*CCP adds a couple of values to game*
Community: "WTF CCP STOP ADDING CONTENT" CCP: wut For me, I just want to see people that use the current aircraft actually given something for it, rather than adding more aircraft while the issues with ISK efficiency and WP gain remain un-addressed. Also, like I've posted before, I don't like the idea of something that can sit still in the air having the ability to deploy bombs. I think that would be better applied to Fighters, where you have to properly line up your release to do any damage, rather than just hovering over a target and spamming R1. I always liked you Moby, this is why
I want aircraft to be a threat on the battlefield.
What I don't want is for them to be the bane of everyone's existence due to cheap mechanics. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
305
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:09:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Community: "GIVE US MORE CONTENT" CCP: Working on it.
*CCP adds a couple of values to game*
Community: "WTF CCP STOP ADDING CONTENT" CCP: wut For me, I just want to see people that use the current aircraft actually given something for it, rather than adding more aircraft while the issues with ISK efficiency and WP gain remain un-addressed. Also, like I've posted before, I don't like the idea of something that can sit still in the air having the ability to deploy bombs. I think that would be better applied to Fighters, where you have to properly line up your release to do any damage, rather than just hovering over a target and spamming R1. I always liked you Moby, this is why I want aircraft to be a threat on the battlefield. What I don't want is for them to be the bane of everyone's existence due to cheap mechanics.
My point exactly. I want some bombers that can drop plasma bombs, so I can bomb some Caldari scum |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2161
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:09:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Community: "GIVE US MORE CONTENT" CCP: Working on it.
*CCP adds a couple of values to game*
Community: "WTF CCP STOP ADDING CONTENT" CCP: wut For me, I just want to see people that use the current aircraft actually given something for it, rather than adding more aircraft while the issues with ISK efficiency and WP gain remain un-addressed. Also, like I've posted before, I don't like the idea of something that can sit still in the air having the ability to deploy bombs. I think that would be better applied to Fighters, where you have to properly line up your release to do any damage, rather than just hovering over a target and spamming R1. I always liked you Moby, this is why I want aircraft to be a threat on the battlefield. What I don't want is for them to be the bane of everyone's existence due to cheap mechanics. "Bomber" is just a name. It's probably just an assault dropship with a missile RoF / Explosion radius bonus per level.
EDIT: Lol, called it.
"The Dropship is a two-engine VTOL craft that combines advances in shielded hardware, redundant software protocols, and networked aeronautics into a heavily armored tactical platform capable of insertion and extraction in even the most hostile situations. Its standard five-man carrying capacity, dual hardpoints, and reinforced plating allow it to operate independently in any situation, alternately tracking and engaging enemy targets and ferrying troops into and out of harm-¦s way.
The Bomber class is a tactical unit designed to eradicate heavy ground units and installations. While the increased bulk of the payload and augmented hull affect maneuverability and limit its ability to engage aerial targets, with accurate bombing it remains a singularly devastating means of engaging ground targets." |
Celeste Cyra
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Blah eve side data base dump ><
You guys do realize that there have been things on that list since like... forever. Hehe, you know that most people can't get it Dust side without knowing something, or finding a particular tool, right? Besides, all the stuff I'm talking about I've never seen on there, and I was on it about 3 weeks ago. 3 weeks doesn't equate to forever, right? This guy does the work for you http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory.php?category_id=350001
Thank you
The bomber description sounds promising http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=364378 |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
2812
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:29:00 -
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Celeste Cyra wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Blah eve side data base dump ><
You guys do realize that there have been things on that list since like... forever. Hehe, you know that most people can't get it Dust side without knowing something, or finding a particular tool, right? Besides, all the stuff I'm talking about I've never seen on there, and I was on it about 3 weeks ago. 3 weeks doesn't equate to forever, right? This guy does the work for you http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory.php?category_id=350001 Thank you The bomber description sounds promising http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=364378 It sounds like a mistake, is what it sounds like.
Mark my words: we'll have more vehicle complaint threads than ever before if those things go in, and anyone unfortunate enough to be specced into basic, Assault, or Logistics Dropships will still be screwed. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
934
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:? Sauce?
edit: *A japanese pun when asking for the source when the accent makes them sound very similar. ........................................that did not originate from japan i swear i'm going to reach through the computer and slap you silly boy |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
2812
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:34:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:? Sauce?
edit: *A japanese pun when asking for the source when the accent makes them sound very similar. ........................................that did not originate from japan i swear i'm going to reach through the computer and slap you silly boy It may have come into common usage there while he was growing up. He has stated that he was born there, after all. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6862
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:44:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:? Sauce?
edit: *A japanese pun when asking for the source when the accent makes them sound very similar. ........................................that did not originate from japan i swear i'm going to reach through the computer and slap you silly boy It may have come into common usage there while he was growing up. He has stated that he was born there, after all.
Japanese love word puns (this may make up for their lack of sarcasm) of all sorts to the point they will bring in words from other languages in. English is a requirement at their school as well so oddly sometimes talking slow and carrying a pen and pad can be most helpful because most of them can write it but not speak it so well. Unlike most american which makes fun of other people's languages in a crass manner the japanese play around with it to the point it is almost a learning experience in itself.
For example
Buruushurii Bruce Lee Blue Three
Sound all the same.
For the record I am not native enough to my birth nation in terms of culture despite being half blood. I only been there for four years + the first 6 months of my life. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2604
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:14:00 -
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If they can actually be a threat to HAVs and dropships, that's a good thing.
But we pilots know better than to expect bomber dropships to be able to actually kill anything |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
305
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:30:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:If they can actually be a threat to HAVs and dropships, that's a good thing.
But we pilots know better than to expect bomber dropships to be able to actually kill anything
Wait, you want dropships hovering over HAV's and LAv's? Oh better yet, you want dropships hovering over cap points? |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
966
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:17:00 -
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Bomber dropship =/= new content though.
It's just rehashing a model and creating a huge additional SP sink. Kind of does sound "No skilly" I just dont see this being necessary or fun. I could be wrong but we'll see.... |
Celeste Cyra
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.02 04:18:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Bomber dropship =/= new content though.
It's just rehashing a model and creating a huge additional SP sink. Kind of does sound "No skilly" I just dont see this being necessary or fun. I could be wrong but we'll see....
Sounds more fun then getting a drop ship brought down in 6 seconds with all modules active. I'm hoping its around or slightly slower than the logi version but has comparable tank to a LLAV or HAV.
On an unrelated note I am finished testing builds, yay. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6874
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:21:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Bomber dropship =/= new content though.
It's just rehashing a model and creating a huge additional SP sink. Kind of does sound "No skilly" I just dont see this being necessary or fun. I could be wrong but we'll see....
If they have to create coding to have bombs then its considered new content. Balance for new numbers and flight controls its considered new content.
If you want to fly by your definition then Call of Duty only has 2 guns, rifle and shotgun. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
309
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:40:00 -
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Celeste Cyra wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Bomber dropship =/= new content though.
It's just rehashing a model and creating a huge additional SP sink. Kind of does sound "No skilly" I just dont see this being necessary or fun. I could be wrong but we'll see.... Sounds more fun then getting a drop ship brought down in 6 seconds with all modules active. I'm hoping its around or slightly slower than the logi version but has comparable tank to a LLAV or HAV. On an unrelated note I am finished testing builds, yay.
Logi Dropships are still pretty fast, and having that kind of speed with that kind of tank, it would be easier if HAV's would fly. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2609
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:40:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:If they can actually be a threat to HAVs and dropships, that's a good thing.
But we pilots know better than to expect bomber dropships to be able to actually kill anything Wait, you want dropships hovering over HAV's and LAv's? Oh better yet, you want dropships hovering over cap points? Better than being a pointless flying coffin. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
516
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:? Sauce?
edit: *A japanese pun when asking for the source when the accent makes them sound very similar. ........................................that did not originate from japan i swear i'm going to reach through the computer and slap you silly boy It may have come into common usage there while he was growing up. He has stated that he was born there, after all. Japanese love word puns (this may make up for their lack of sarcasm) of all sorts to the point they will bring in words from other languages in. English is a requirement at their school as well so oddly sometimes talking slow and carrying a pen and pad can be most helpful because most of them can write it but not speak it so well. Unlike most american which makes fun of other people's languages in a crass manner the japanese play around with it to the point it is almost a learning experience in itself. For example Buruushurii Bruce Lee Blue Three Sound all the same. For the record I am not native enough to my birth nation in terms of culture despite being half blood. I only been there for four years + the first 6 months of my life.
its a 10-year-old 4chan meme when moot put in a wordfilter changing every usage of source to sauce. It may have been inspired by a japanese pun, but its usage and origin as a meme are wholly english.
And yes, the japanese do love their puns. Its one of their more endearing qualities.
And yes, while the database dump might allow us to safely say that the bomber will probably be a dropship variant, I would not go so far as to kick and scream over it. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
315
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:If they can actually be a threat to HAVs and dropships, that's a good thing.
But we pilots know better than to expect bomber dropships to be able to actually kill anything Wait, you want dropships hovering over HAV's and LAv's? Oh better yet, you want dropships hovering over cap points? Better than being a pointless flying coffin.
Honestly, it shouldn't even exist. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
315
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:11:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:? Sauce?
edit: *A japanese pun when asking for the source when the accent makes them sound very similar. ........................................that did not originate from japan i swear i'm going to reach through the computer and slap you silly boy It may have come into common usage there while he was growing up. He has stated that he was born there, after all. Japanese love word puns (this may make up for their lack of sarcasm) of all sorts to the point they will bring in words from other languages in. English is a requirement at their school as well so oddly sometimes talking slow and carrying a pen and pad can be most helpful because most of them can write it but not speak it so well. Unlike most american which makes fun of other people's languages in a crass manner the japanese play around with it to the point it is almost a learning experience in itself. For example Buruushurii Bruce Lee Blue Three Sound all the same. For the record I am not native enough to my birth nation in terms of culture despite being half blood. I only been there for four years + the first 6 months of my life. its a 10-year-old 4chan meme when moot put in a wordfilter changing every usage of source to sauce. It may have been inspired by a japanese pun, but its usage and origin as a meme are wholly english. And yes, the japanese do love their puns. Its one of their more endearing qualities. And yes, while the database dump might allow us to safely say that the bomber will probably be a dropship variant, I would not go so far as to kick and scream over it.
Probably? No. Surely? Yes. And not yelling, typing. L2 realize that you're reading fool |
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Taurion Bruni
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
153
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Posted - 2013.08.05 12:40:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Celeste Cyra wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Bomber dropship =/= new content though.
It's just rehashing a model and creating a huge additional SP sink. Kind of does sound "No skilly" I just dont see this being necessary or fun. I could be wrong but we'll see.... Sounds more fun then getting a drop ship brought down in 6 seconds with all modules active. I'm hoping its around or slightly slower than the logi version but has comparable tank to a LLAV or HAV. On an unrelated note I am finished testing builds, yay. Logi Dropships are still pretty fast, and having that kind of speed with that kind of tank, it would be easier if HAV's would fly.
they are not the slowest thing ever, but withount proper torque and boost, you are easy pickings for swarms and FG shots |
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