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GTA V FTW
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:25:00 -
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So if Logis got nerfed in order to help push them into their intended roll of support class why can scouts carry weapons like Shottys and AR's ?
Shouldn't the Scouts now get nerfed to only be able to carry a Sniper Rifle in order to push them into their intended roll?
BTW I did not spec into the FOTM Logi Assault suit so no I am not crying.
I am just questioning CCP's logic.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:27:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Because shotguns and ARs ARE part of the scouts role. Oh yeah how?
Oh yeah and why can an Assault class carry a sniper rifle?
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:29:00 -
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Spycrab Potato wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:So if Logis got nerfed in order to help push them into their intended roll of support class why can scouts carry weapons like Shottys and AR's ?
Shouldn't the Scouts now get nerfed to only be able to carry a Sniper Rifle in order to push them into their intended roll?
BTW I did not spec into the FOTM Logi Assault suit so no I am not crying.
I am just questioning CCP's logic.
The scouts role is to get be in the battle to gather intel and be able to get in and out quickly.
So then they should only be able to carry SMG's then. |
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:34:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:So if Logis got nerfed in order to help push them into their intended roll of support class why can scouts carry weapons like Shottys and AR's ?
Shouldn't the Scouts now get nerfed to only be able to carry a Sniper Rifle in order to push them into their intended roll?
BTW I did not spec into the FOTM Logi Assault suit so no I am not crying.
I am just questioning CCP's logic.
You should consider the discrepancy in your logic. The nerf had nothing to do with weapons in the first place.
It was nerfed because it was being used as a Assault class.
Quote:As mentioned above, these skill changes are largely to discourage assault-focused players from using the Logistics suit as their frontline choice.
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3/ |
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:36:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:Weapon does not define role.
Play style defines the role. The dropsuit is only a guideline for an idea of the role, it does not mean you have to play as that role entirely.
The nerf had everything to do with the lack of balance for the Caldari Logi with the number of slots available to it in context of the CPU/PG it had.
The Amarr Logi got a nice buff and is more 'offensive' thanks to the two weapon combinations.
Your logic would mean that Logi's should not be using weapons at all.
No no no it is not my Logic it is CCP's.
Quote:As mentioned above, these skill changes are largely to discourage assault-focused players from using the Logistics suit as their frontline choice. |
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:42:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:scouts are an assassination class, sniper rifles aren't the only way to do that, shotguns used to be one of the best ways to accomplish that in fact.
Yeah but using CCP's Logic they were not designed to be frontline Assault yet that is what they are being used for just like the FOTM Logi suit was but then CCP nerfed the Logi Suit because it was being used as frontline assault. |
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:46:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:calisk galern wrote:scouts are an assassination class, sniper rifles aren't the only way to do that, shotguns used to be one of the best ways to accomplish that in fact. Yeah but using CCP's Logic they were not designed to be frontline Assault yet that is what they are being used for just like the FOTM Logi suit was but then CCP nerfed the Logi Suit because it was being used as frontline assault. Obvious troll is obvious.
Call me anything you would like but CCP's word are clear as day.
Quote:As mentioned above, these skill changes are largely to discourage assault-focused players from using the Logistics suit as their frontline choice.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:49:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:I honestly don't even believe any of the current scouts are meant to be snipers. If anything, its the caldari scout that will be geared toward that role.
Hell my Minmatar Assault is a better sniper, 5 Complex Damage Mods and room for Nanohive. |
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:00:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:
I hope this helps clarify their logic while offering insights into analytic and critical thinking of the English language.
Meh, this ^ is only your interpretation of what you think you are reading.
BTW you forgot to break down this part for me,
"largely to discourage"
Verb Cause (someone) to lose confidence or enthusiasm. Prevent or seek to prevent (something) by showing disapproval or creating difficulties. |
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:06:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:calisk galern wrote:scouts are an assassination class, sniper rifles aren't the only way to do that, shotguns used to be one of the best ways to accomplish that in fact. Yeah but using CCP's Logic they were not designed to be frontline Assault yet that is what they are being used for just like the FOTM Logi suit was but then CCP nerfed the Logi Suit because it was being used as frontline assault. maybe it was because I started just out of open beta, but I've always thought of scouts as front line assasins that die if you catch them, and that's more or less what they do. logis were always supposed to be a support class that supports...and back then they were horrible compared to assault suits.
CCP Defines the Scout roll as this,
Quote:A scout dropsuit is the best option when missions call for speed and stealth. Equipped with stealth modules, the scout suit is the obvious choice for infiltration, counter-espionage, and assassination.
Nothing about frontline Assault, yet that is what they are being used for. |
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:11:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Zero Notion wrote:
I hope this helps clarify their logic while offering insights into analytic and critical thinking of the English language.
Meh, this ^ is only your interpenetration of what you think you are reading. BTW you forgot to break down this part for me, "largely to discourage" Verb Cause (someone) to lose confidence or enthusiasm. Prevent or seek to prevent (something) by showing disapproval or creating difficulties. Right. Every suit has levels of 'discouragement' inherent in the design. If a scout wants more health, they have to buy into armor. This prevents speed on their part which is their bread and butter. They could use the Ferro plates but this is high PG/CPU. This would prevent them from using a shield mod, damage mod, etc as they normally would or force them to use basics. Maybe even force to consider what level of weapons they want to use. A heavy, for more speed, would have to give up armor plating, which is helpful for a heavy as they are not very fast even with kinetics. It's not to *prevent* you from playing into these roles. It's forcing you to *think* about how you want to play that role. Does any of this make sense to you yet?
Sure, its not my logic that is in question. It is CCP's.
I don't give a hoot if the damn things got nerfed or not, its CCP's reason why they nerfed them that is bugging me becasue with that type of Logic who knows what they will nerf next and why.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:14:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:
1. "Discourage" =/= "prevent" people can - and still do - use the Caldati logi as their fronline choice.
That is because they do not have a choice to respec out of them, derp.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:29:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Jaqen Morghalis wrote:
1. "Discourage" =/= "prevent" people can - and still do - use the Caldati logi as their fronline choice.
That is because they do not have a choice to respec out of them, derp. Irrelevant. The point is that they are not RESTRICTED to being ONLY used for support, as you seem to believe. Your lolassesment of the situation is the root of your issues, not CCP's "logic". Derp. Troll on, little troll!
Attack and call me a troll all you would like sticks and stones, sticks and stones.
Why you so Mad Bro?
Ahhhhh, is someone picking on your little bitty Dev company?
I do not seem to believe, now you are missing the point.
CCP seems to believe "that they are RESTRICTED to being ONLY used for support" and stated it as the reason that they are making the adjustments to the Logi Suit you Jackwad.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:59:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Jaqen Morghalis wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Jaqen Morghalis wrote:
1. "Discourage" =/= "prevent" people can - and still do - use the Caldati logi as their fronline choice.
That is because they do not have a choice to respec out of them, derp. Irrelevant. The point is that they are not RESTRICTED to being ONLY used for support, as you seem to believe. Your lolassesment of the situation is the root of your issues, not CCP's "logic". Derp. Troll on, little troll! Attack and call me a troll all you would like sticks and stones, sticks and stones. Why you so Mad Bro? Ahhhhh, is someone picking on your little bitty Dev company? I do not seem to believe, now you are missing the point. CCP seems to believe "that they are RESTRICTED to being ONLY used for support" and stated it as the reason that they are making the adjustments to the Logi Suit you Jackwad. Not mad. Don't care. Was bored, so I thought I'd have some fun in your little troll thread. You've taken one specific nerf to one specific suit, erroneously attributed it to ALL suits of it's class, and then are arbitrarily attempting to apply the reasoning behind that nerf to a completely different class of suits. Nice try, though.
Cool, if you liked this thread then your going to love my next one.
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