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Ld Collins
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Posted - 2013.08.01 04:38:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:We all know there's quite an imbalance between Shield and Armor vehicles, the winner in all areas being armor. However, this is not a post about making it balanced, but simply a temporary measure until CCP has time to work on the imbalance.
The current issue for vehicles is the lack of powergrid. In a Gunnlogi, currently I have two of the best powergrid expansion units for 15% increase apiece in both of my lows and still don't have the pg to fit two heavy extenders and a heavy rep, even the supplemental ones which use less pg. I even did a theoretical fit, using the lowest pg a Tank can possibly use up (Standard missile turrets) plus the two pg extenders, currently with lvl 3 in Vehicle Core Upgrades, and I still cannot fit two extenders and a rep. I even left the other two high slots empty.
My request is simple. Vehicle Armor Plating gives a 3% decrease in pg consumption of armor plates. I request that Vehicle Shield Extension give a powergrid reduction as well in lieu of the current reduction to CPU it gives.
By no means am I saying this will fix all the imbalance between the two different tanks, nor will I repeat those arguments again here. But this is a quick fix until such time as vehicles get the proper attention they need. A little painkiller before the surgery as it were. What people seem to be missing is that shield tanks arent for combat they are more support and the cpu reduction is better served for armored tanks gallente tanks are designed to do damage at close mid and medium range. Shield tanks can destroy armor tanks though if you use cycled mt I've done it today on numerous occasions. Shield tanks are for destroying installation cru's and supply depots I have run many fits and sacrificed over 150 million isk testing tank fits and I've come to one conclusion. Shield tanks can be a nightmare for an armored tank but you would get far more use out of a shield tank by taking out structures and infantry.
The Shield cpu reduction allows maddys to fit missile turrets with a shield extender and a shield rep im currently running
Clarity Ward Shield Booster Azeotropic Shield Extender
Microcell Nanite Armor Hardener 180mm Reinforced Nanofibre Plates Heavy IG-L Polarized Armor Regenerator Local Power Diagnostic System Photonic CPU Enhancer
My weapons are all advanced missles turrets this is the most resilant tank fit I've made so far. However a Gunnlogi would be the end of me if you want a shield tank that can hold its own in a fight with maddy your only choice would be to use a Falchion keeping your distance if its a blaster tank or getting close and circling a railgun tank never head on.
Shield tanks get 3% Missile damage to deal with armored vehicles or more importanly cru's and other installtions and Armored tanks get 3% Blaster damage for anti av. |
Ld Collins
TransStellar Empire Defense Force
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Posted - 2013.08.01 05:28:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:You're sorta right, in reality Shield is meant for Long Range combat, where armor is more in your face, tank all the things, combat. Problem is that armor with a railgun basically negates that advantage for a shield tank. An armored railgun is just begging to be blown to pieces by anti av though it maybe great as an anti tank build but it leaves you extremely vulanerable. Its pretty balanced Shield can tank AV armor tanks cant the only defense an armor tank has against AV is a blaster. You just have to play your cards right. If you see a railgun armor tank you have to ambush him from behind or else youre toast |
Ld Collins
TransStellar Empire Defense Force
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:25:00 -
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The Black Jackal wrote:Ld Collins wrote:You should be able to fit about 8k shield with a light rep and a missle/railgun blasters are just out of the question id also put 2 7% diagnostic pgs to increase your shield and passive repair even further. If the tank has a blaster you can take him down just avoid railgun tanks be more evasive spawn a lav and get to the other side of the map and call your tank in. The point the OP is trying to make is that the Armor Tank can fit a Plate AND it's Nomral Sized Rep.. ie. Large / Heavy The SHield Tank can EHP OR Rep, but not both.
With the shield tank you could fit Surge Shield Reinforcement Ward Shield Amplifier Heavy Azeotropic Ward Shield Booster Ward Shield Regenerator Heavy Clarity Ward Shield Booster
Local Power grid Expansion Local Power Diagnostic System
Weapons Large AT-201 Missile Launcher Small AT-1 Cycled Missile Launcher Small St-1 Accelerated Missile Launcher
Shields 5663 Armor 1250 Shield Rep 33.22hp/s With rep activated 361.22hp/s -20.10% shield damage + an addition -30% damage when Surge is activated 390 pg 2286 pg
Skills needed Vehicle Core L. 4 Vehicle Shield Upgrades L. 3 Shield Adaptation L.3 Shield Boost L.5 Vehicle Shield Extension L.3 Vehicle Shield Recharging L. 4
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