well it is called ambush, its not ment to be fair.

who the hell spawns random in ambush?

What's so hard to understand about "random?"

If you don't want to spawn randomly, pick your spawn point from your squad's uplink locations. If your squad doesn't have uplinks down, then you deserve to lose.

Its a death match, any qq about it being unfair or dieing 5 times in a row is silly..

If you random spawn, then its 100% fair for you and the red you spawn in front of. hell we even get a 1 second invis noob shield now.

Care to counter, or are you just going to stick to the ad hominem?

Just cuz?

Seriously, it's a RANDOM spawn. The idea is supposed to be to use teamwork and coordinate spawn points with your squad. If you don't want to play as a squad and create staging areas, then throw the dice and spawn in randomly.

I just don't understand the problem.

What is your counterpoint to this besides "It shouldn't be this way." WHY shouldn't it be? What's wrong with choosing your own spawn locations as a squad?

Its a death match Cat, if you die and loose your position of strength then spawning back in is risky. Hell, someone could spawn right on your back and make you sit. thats what death match is, its risky, its dangerous, and at any time you could be


AMBUSHED !

If you spawn in randomly in a 200k suit, that's YOUR fault. You should have used a proper uplink that was covered by your squad.

Why would you blame your poor planning on the game?

I still don't understand what you're getting at.

Nearly 100% of spawns in a decent squad are great.

If 80% of your spawns are "terrible," you're probably a bad player.

Why would you spawn in front of 5 enemies?

Don't you verify with your squad that the uplink is clear before spawning? If not, you may want to examine your own play, because it sounds like you're not communicating well.

Again, it's a RANDOM spawn. If you don't want to spawn random, it's up to the player to set up a spawn point. That's why there are militia uplinks available in the marketplace.

You can't look at a single mechanic in a vacuum. The spawn system exists alongside CRUs, mCRUs, and uplinks, and thus all of these things have to be taken into consideration.




I don't think there's anything "****** up" about the spawn system. I LOVE the spawn system, because it rewards people who think ahead and work as a team.

I think the problem with new players has more to do with CCP lacking any sort of training. If CCP had a proper new player experience that explained the basics of the game, then it wouldn't be a problem. A simple training scenario that explains how to use each piece of equipment, and shows how you NEED to set up a spawn point and make sure it's safe as a squad would resolve the issue you're bringing up.

The mechanic is fine, the problem is new players (and players such as yourself) are never told how the mechanic is to be used.

I told the game not to spawn me next to red people but it did it anyways, maybe if a dev speaks to it it might do something.

This is how Siri works and look how accurate she is!

I think they consider it the same as if you were camping a Jump Gate in EvE.
And when you put it in that context, we can all say get over it. **** happens.

Only problem is the game hasnt progressed enough for that to be a bearable fact...

Easiest way to fix this problem. Airdrop clones.

Hi-lite a certain are where people can spawn into, let them select it as if they were going to drop an OB.

Cat your engaging in a shouting match and weaking your argument as result. Whats your solution to the problem. Because everyone bitched like hell over the random spawns

Or were not around for that??

So your argument is that CCP should entirely remove the need for uplinks and mCRUs in ambush?

If the spawn system just spawns you in that perfect window where no one is looking at you, but you're just 3-5 seconds away from ambushing the other team every single spawn, where exactly is the fun?

The enemy doesn't need to manage their spawn points at all, they just automatically get spawned in the best possible location?

How would this sort of spawning even be countered? Wouldn't it result in being constantly shot from behind by perfectly spawning enemies? Wouldn't it basically make the game just like playing Deathmatch in CoD, just high speed rounds where the enemy is constantly spawning in your blind spots and killing you?

No thanks.

I personally think the fix is to simply have the same red line spawning mechanics as skirmish. Forget the random spawn entirely. You spawn in the redline or in your MCC, and your team places and defends uplinks where they want their spawn locations to be. How is this not the most tactical and obvious fix to the problem? This way teams have 100% control over where they spawn.

They need to keep the on-the-fly calculations to a minimum as there's only so much the game can do before starting to lag and slow frame rate down so no, they can't all of a sudden start calculating where's the safest place to put you by checking everyone's ******* viewing angles and lines of sight dynamically!! What's wrong with spawning in with an uplink and placing it down somewhere safe and playing as a team??? Jesus, that's what I always do and yeah, you'll die sometimes but my advice is don't blind-spawn a 200k suit!!
The real problem I have with ambush is when it ends the match when there are still more than 10 of you on the battlefield and you're holding off a the enemy, slowly hacking away at their clone count from 50 to 20 and thinking you may actually win after all when all of a sudden, bang, end of match!!