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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:48:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:I heard that in 1.4 you will be able to to go into FW. with 16 of your own corp at once. Hopefully friendly fire will be on for that. it better be.... |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1740
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:27:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Friendly fire sucks. Do you know how many people would spawn in militia gear just to kill proto's on their team? Too many. Plus all the Mass Drivers shooting at me in CQC, now instead of just being annoying they would be deadly. This is something that can barely exist in games like Call of Duty, it would be horrible to have in a game where all of our stuff has to be bought.
It's not abused in PC because generally everybody is well acquainted and knows that if they screw around they will be kicked from the Corp. I would shoot you because I like you :)
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XxWarlordxX97
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:33:00 -
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I see this is going to end well |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3493
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:34:00 -
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For practical purposes, I would say keep friendly fire limited to Factional Warfare and Planetary Conquest. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:39:00 -
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If we get a faction war system where we need to build loyalty and ranks, the FF will work if the guilty loose loyalty and ranks.
But pubs? pubs are chaos, we would spend more time killing TK then the real enemy half the time. WE would see TK games where almost no one is killing the enemy.
has the supporters of FF even seen this stupid chaos before? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
838
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:39:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:So we'd lose proto stomping for team stomping? Sounds functional. In the not sense of the word.
Oh, yeah, I forgot, there would be absolutely no auto-boot included.
/sarcasm
You're just afraid you'd lose proto on your main I'm betting. |
Avinash Decker
BetaMax.
63
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:48:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Imagine all the idiots in pub matches who will get a kick out of team-killing you to get the last hit on an almost dead red.
you get -50 wp for killing your own so it wouldn't be worth it just for a kill.... I agree turn friendly fire on for everything!
teamkillers aren't going care about some war points they can easily obtain when they are searching for tears. |
Criteria Shipment
Baynaer Space Command The Ditanian Alliance
24
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:52:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Seriously, I'm tired of going into CQC, having the other team unload half their clips into each other, yet still only damage me.
We already have it in planetary conquest, so it shouldn't be hard just to make sub-variants of the current game modes with friendly fire enabled. If anything, just make the ISK reward higher and add a type of auto boot if it becomes obvious someone isn't just accidentally team-killing.
Edit: I'm not saying make friendly fire the only option. Either way- this is New Eden; nobody is forcing you to use your most expensive gear. That would just be wasting your gear. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2013.08.01 03:02:00 -
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ok so I was sitting, smoking, and thinking,
I like to call DUST a good start at PVP, Its not a run of the mill shooter to me,. Sooooo
I will accept a system where,
1, if you Kill one teamate you turn RED
2, I can now farm you along with the orange.
3, done, |
Criteria Shipment
Baynaer Space Command The Ditanian Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.08.01 03:07:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:ok so I was sitting, smoking, and thinking, I like to call DUST a good start at PVP, Its not a run of the mill shooter to me,. Sooooo I will accept a system where, 1, if you Kill one teamate you turn RED 2, I can now farm you along with the orange. 3, done, This community... |
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
404
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Posted - 2013.08.01 03:10:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Seriously, I'm tired of going into CQC, having the other team unload half their clips into each other, yet still only damage me.
We already have it in planetary conquest, so it shouldn't be hard just to make sub-variants of the current game modes with friendly fire enabled. If anything, just make the ISK reward higher and add a type of auto boot if it becomes obvious someone isn't just accidentally team-killing.
Edit: I'm not saying make friendly fire the only option. Either way- this is New Eden; nobody is forcing you to use your most expensive gear. No blue dots would kill me just because I have a jovian rifle |
Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
101
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Posted - 2013.08.01 03:34:00 -
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As a penalty for team kills, I think the isk loss of the victim should be 2x compensated for by the offender (even by accident) as to put in an incentive in general not to team kill.
Continued affronts could have an sp penalty followed by a list of shame or book of the guilty as they have in dark souls, from which marks them on the mini map for all their future games which give players high rewards for killing them for either team (essentially they can no longer have teams). Also when tiers become introduced it would also mean they even if they create new characters they will be stuck in low tier unable to reach high tier games. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
838
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Posted - 2013.08.01 03:59:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:As a penalty for team kills, I think the isk loss of the victim should be 2x compensated for by the offender (even by accident) as to put in an incentive in general not to team kill.
Continued affronts could have an sp penalty followed by a list of shame or book of the guilty as they have in dark souls, from which marks them on the mini map for all their future games which give players high rewards for killing them for either team (essentially they can no longer have teams). Also when tiers become introduced it would also mean they even if they create new characters they will be stuck in low tier unable to reach high tier games.
No and I'll tell you why.
If they do that, I will wear a full proto fit and run my ass into your line of fire as many times I can that match.
**** AFK farming, I'm farming being TKed.
Yes, give me your ISK.
Which raises another question, what happens if the TKer has no ISK? Do they go negative ISK?
Overall, bad idea if you ask me. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
208
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Posted - 2013.08.01 04:23:00 -
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Three tabs for battle conditions: Hi-Sec = All game modes, no friendly fire. Low-Sec = All game modes, 50% damage from friendly fire. Null-Sec = All game modes, 100% damage from friendly fire.
Rewards and Penalties as you will... |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
59
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Posted - 2013.08.01 04:36:00 -
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FF will only complicate things, CCP needs to fix this game as it is without FF...how have you not lowered your standards for Dust? |
Skipper Jones
Murder Cakes Of Doom
553
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Posted - 2013.08.01 05:03:00 -
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Avinash Decker wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Imagine all the idiots in pub matches who will get a kick out of team-killing you to get the last hit on an almost dead red.
you get -50 wp for killing your own so it wouldn't be worth it just for a kill.... I agree turn friendly fire on for everything! teamkillers aren't going care about some war points they can easily obtain when they are searching for tears.
Truth.
I know I won't |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1661
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Posted - 2013.08.01 05:29:00 -
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CCP do NOT or EVER add friendly fire to pubs for dust. |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
270
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Posted - 2013.08.01 06:23:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:As a penalty for team kills, I think the isk loss of the victim should be 2x compensated for by the offender (even by accident) as to put in an incentive in general not to team kill.
Continued affronts could have an sp penalty followed by a list of shame or book of the guilty as they have in dark souls, from which marks them on the mini map for all their future games which give players high rewards for killing them for either team (essentially they can no longer have teams). Also when tiers become introduced it would also mean they even if they create new characters they will be stuck in low tier unable to reach high tier games. No and I'll tell you why. If they do that, I will wear a full proto fit and run my ass into your line of fire as many times I can that match. **** AFK farming, I'm farming being TKed. Yes, give me your ISK. Which raises another question, what happens if the TKer has no ISK? Do they go negative ISK? Overall, bad idea if you ask me. What you just responded is a common problem with all the 'suggestions' and 'ideas' that people have. They never bother to think things through and think their solutions are the most original thoughts and bestest ideas anyone's ever had. |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
43
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Posted - 2013.08.01 08:42:00 -
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What....? Just.... what?
What the **** are you smoking and where can I get some? |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
425
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Posted - 2013.08.01 10:22:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Imagine all the idiots in pub matches who will get a kick out of team-killing you to get the last hit on an almost dead red. This guy needs a promotion to Captain. Although you did leave out the part where people use scrambler pistols to shoot a blue-dot in the back of the head to steal a hack.
And dont forget the total *ssholes just killing you because they now can, over and over.
Best way for them to collect on dem instant Tears.
It was annoying when those A-Holes jumped out of their Lavs trying to run you a teamate over with an unmanned Lav, but just giving them the option to just shoot you in a starter fit and there is nothing you can do, lets just say No about it in public matches.
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Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
279
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Posted - 2013.08.01 10:39:00 -
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I'd only be fine with FF in pubs if they added a system similar to halo where after something like two offenses of killing a teammate, the victim gets a "kick or forgive" option.
Overall though, PC-yes, FW-maybe, pubs-no. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2585
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:55:00 -
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Are you people blind? I'm saying add a new set of game modes with friendly fire on. If you wouldn't be able to handle it, don't go into that game mode.
Simple as that. |
Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
34
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:10:00 -
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Enable in pubs. Remove the loss of gear from being team killed. Enable penalty for team killing where u could go negative sp and isk if that's what ur running around doing. +10 wp for team killing afkers (afk 5 mins or whatever time period) with no penalty and they lose their gear ;) |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
256
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:18:00 -
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i certainly hope not. I would hate this game every time some senseless dumb**** tk'd me just for the hell of it. Considering there's ISK involved in your fits it's a pretty major factor.
That would be the death of this game for sure from the inside out of pub battles. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2587
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:19:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Seriously, I'm tired of going into CQC, having the other team unload half their clips into each other, yet still only damage me.
We already have it in planetary conquest, so it shouldn't be hard just to make sub-variants of the current game modes with friendly fire enabled. If anything, just make the ISK reward higher and add a type of auto boot if it becomes obvious someone isn't just accidentally team-killing.
Edit: I'm not saying make friendly fire the only option. Either way- this is New Eden; nobody is forcing you to use your most expensive gear. No blue dots would kill me just because I have a jovian rifle We know there aren't any Jove weapons. And if you're stupid enough to bring something like officer gear into a pub match, it's your own damn fault if you lose it for nothing. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2587
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:20:00 -
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RoundEy3 wrote:i certainly hope not. I would hate this game every time some senseless dumb**** tk'd me just for the hell of it. Considering there's ISK involved in your fits it's a pretty major factor.
That would be the death of this game for sure from the inside out of pub battles. Then don't go into friendly-fire enabled modes, dumbshit |
sixteensixty4
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:31:00 -
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I would love a FF game mode
But yeah, it would be a field day for griefers, even if you not getting team killed, you would still have friendlys taking down your shields \ amour and just leaving you with just a little left
i like these options from previous posters tho
-forgive or kick option
-being tk'd doesnt mean loss of a suit
would make it a little more bearable
Could even just go down cod's route and FF gets redirected at the shooter, sounds a bit cheap, but it works and probably the best soulution to deal with matches with randoms in
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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1552
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:33:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:If this ever happens, you'd see me in the mountains blowing Thale's users up with REs.
Sorry, I'm an ass like that. Do REs still activate ragdoll mode? I remember back in codex, I decided to plant REs on someone who was operating a turret. The following animation made me become a mad bomber for the rest of the build.
I've noticed strange things happening when killing turret gunners.
I watched as Lightning Bolt2 knifed some poor blue turret operator and saw him literally fly upwards. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2587
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:35:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:If this ever happens, you'd see me in the mountains blowing Thale's users up with REs.
Sorry, I'm an ass like that. Do REs still activate ragdoll mode? I remember back in codex, I decided to plant REs on someone who was operating a turret. The following animation made me become a mad bomber for the rest of the build. I've noticed strange things happening when killing turret gunners. I watched as Lightning Bolt2 knifed some poor blue turret operator and saw him literally fly upwards. I was killed with melee (I was on the ground) and I saw my body fly a good 100m. |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
256
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:37:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:RoundEy3 wrote:i certainly hope not. I would hate this game every time some senseless dumb**** tk'd me just for the hell of it. Considering there's ISK involved in your fits it's a pretty major factor.
That would be the death of this game for sure from the inside out of pub battles. Then don't go into friendly-fire enabled modes, dumbshit
Hey dumbshit, I just don't see the point of making FF pub matches when they are going to make FW work off of their match making system and have FF. Dumbshit McDumbshit |
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