I fight to untie this Galaxy in His name, to make all of New Eden one people.

Dually noted oh pious one, be wary of what you say for those of us who take pleasure in twisting your words to suit our needs will do so without hesitation.

Whether you twist my words or not does not change my cause. That is reflected in the name I was given upon becoming a Templar.

I am the Truth of the Word, one who exemplifies the tenets of Amarrian society, a paradigm of his chosen, an avenging angel.

I am Adamant in my Faith, there are no temptations to sway me from my duty in His name, and my skill, my fervour, and my devout and pious spirit are God's.

As an earthly servant of the Almighty I may be fallible, but the righteousness of our cause cannot be disputed and in service to God I am vindicated.

I'm not fighting, you bastard. I am running.

From whom or what?

There is honour in service. And yours to the State, is honourable work. Why shirk that duty in fear or self pity, when you can embrace it with the pride and solidarity your people are known for?

I fight for Isk. If you pay me enough ( 75% in advance for supply costs ( supply cost include hiring cost of mercs that I will hire personally for you) ) and tell me to take down a titan. I will do it. Also I fight against idiots who support country especially the amarr and with what my family did to me.

I fight that one day my people might not fear that Ammarians might snatch them from their homes without remorse. Though the isk helps.

Brother, it isn't that duty that I am running from. Regardless of what I think of your faith, I respect Templars for their devotion towards defending their empire. I hold the same devotion to my State, I assure you. I'm running from myself. All I have ever looked for in this life was a chance to start fresh.

I've made some hard choices in life, choices I am not proud of. I know one day those choices might catch up with me, but for now I am just going to keep moving forward and not look back.

I... I just don't want to go back to the Dragonaurs, but I can't ever face the Legion. So I run.

Why run?

Why not face your consequences and eliminate them? Get rid of them and you can easily start anew; without any worries.

Some battles are won without ever raising arms.

Yet, those battles resolved without conflict never seem to happen as often as those with.

However they are often those of greatest importance.

Why run?

Why not face your consequences and eliminate them? Get rid of them and you can easily start anew; without any worries.

Because Mirage-haan, I don't want to end up like you.

There is no battle to fight anymore. All I can do is refrain from allowing myself to slip any further than I already have into violence. The Dragonaurs turned me into a weapon, and I did not realize how much they had broken me until far afterwards. Thankfully, friends have shown me that I can be far more than that.

ISK...

Why fight for something of no true value?

Oh in the wider picture ISK is pretty important

Yes yes it is at all cost ( until you loose profit) you should fight for isk

I do not need ISK when I have the Faith, and the knowledge that I am one of God's chosen.

While ISK may pale in the light of God's grace, templar, and while I understand very well why you feel the need to express this sentiment to our very "mercenary" mercenary colleague, you have to admit that an Imperial scrambler rifle doesn't go amiss in helping to spread God's will.

If you'll forgive the observation, stained glass and heat-resistant lenses seem like two crafts whose artisans rarely go hungry in the Empire.

Such things are provided to me. As a Templar I do not earn ISK merely accrue a certain number of requisitions from the 24th Crusade.

Such things are provided to me. As a Templar I do not earn ISK merely accrue a certain number of requisitions from the 24th Crusade.

I fight for my faith, brotherhood,, empire and for vengeance

Amarr Victor

Hope to see you on the battlefield. Fighting for the loosing army.

I fight because it is my role, my right place. It is the reason I exist in this form: to be a weapon.

It is the path on which I hope to find my soul's perfection.

Do you think that fighting will lead you to perfection?

If so, why do you believe that?

I fight to defend my federation and it's beliefs
I fight to upkeep democracy and all that is right with the universe
I fight to protect my brothers with the same beliefs as me,
The belief that the magnificent Gallente Federation will prevail through all the darkness, and destruction, and will prove victorious against the Caldari scum that work so hard to stop us.
We welcome you to join our great nation, full of democracy and sanity. Only then will you not Suffer the wrath of our soldiers!

Who do you fight for?

Then the Dragonaurs did you a favour, though you may not see it as such.

They made you more than a man, for man is nothing but a cog in God's design, what they made you is axis upon which all future events will hinge.

What they gave you is power and the will to put that power to use or to seal it away. They gave you the choice, and choice is something that few have in New Eden.

A less mystical way of putting it might be to say that I seek wisdom on the soldier's path.

All Achur monks seek to perfect our souls through insight into the universe. The teachings as to what this means and how it is accomplished vary from sect to sect. As a Shuijing, or 'Crystal,' practitioner, I seek to pierce the illusion of 'self'-- to move and act in tune with the Totality of which we are all inseparably part, to lose myself in it.

As a student of Shuijing, I know that I, as an individual, separate, distinct being, do not exist. I am an illusion, a trick my mind plays on itself-- a necessary and important trick for a human to live as a human does, but one that leads to much suffering. I know this for a great truth, but it is one that is difficult for most people, including most practitioners, to accept.

In order to better accept and absorb this truth, I choose a life of few distractions and follow the soldier's path. I seek to be, as entirely as is within my power, the soldier, the weapon, we were created to be.

Combat is a tool for achieving focus, for surrendering one's will to the moment. As much as I am able, I let go of my own wants and thoughts, and simply am. In those moments when I succeed, I forget to think, but only act, precisely and without will.

It is in those moments when "I" am not, when I act and move with no more intention than the wind, that I touch perfection. Perhaps one day I will forget to remember that I am apart and alone, and I will perceive the Totality at last.

Forgive me Ryeon-haani, but I detect a slight tinge of irony in all of this. You yourself have made references in other posts to the horrors of Sansha's Nation and their debasement to humanity by turning individuals into drones, but you yourself claim that enlightenment is to reach this hivemind like status of the Totality. Or perhaps I am detecting hypocrisy.

Please understand, I do not mean to offend you or your culture. Nor am I attempting to advocate True Power. I simply see a great sadness in someone with such a great mind to not see the same value in their own individuality as others do. It is your choice to lose yourself to your way, but the day may come where one will think the world of you. To me, there is a beautiful sadness in the fact that you seem to matter little to yourself.

If you feel individuality is an illusion, the question needs to be raised: Is it really so bad for us to just pretend it is real?

When you put it that way you make it sound so noble.

Thank you, I feel like I have a much better grip on the concept. At least, a better one than most. I can only assume how lost an individual who doesn't have any standard cultural link to the Achura might be. I believe now I understand your spirituality, at least partially.

Still not sure if I support it though. If we are all indeed different faces of this universe, then we should welcome this gift of succeeding from a greater being, at least for as long as we have in this world. If the hardships in life have taught me anything, it is that this life is a forge to test and temper a soul before it can be claimed by the spirits. Perhaps this might serve a greater context: Just because I accept the inevitability of my fate in my existence as an immortal does not mean I am in any hurry to embrace it. Rather than taking the path of least resistance, you adapt to blaze a new way for others to follow.

Unless we enter a state of totalitarian communism, developing a society where we are all free to indulge in a malleable trance of ignorance is (thankfully) a far off dream. After all, when you have finally reached Totality what will you have become besides a slave to the universe? Maybe it is my Civire speaking, but I think we can be stronger than that. When the world bites you, you bite back.

I understand full well that you wish to perceive this Totality. However you can not deny your past claim that the reason you fight is to attempt to forfeit your grip on you own self and surrender that part of you to a state of serenity. (Which should be noted, that isn't perfection you are feeling. It is a hyper-alert combat high that your body has been hard wired initiate. You can get the same chemical reaction from a syringe.)

To be honest, I am curious of your goal of becoming a weapon for the use of another would be as easily accepted by Minmatar slave soldiers forced to become such tools for the Amarr. I get that your goals are supposedly more pure because they are not subject to malevolent master of any sort to speak of, but the concept is still the same. Were others fight tooth and nail for freedom, you actively seek out the bondage of your Totality.

You can wrap that in a bow seven times and that fact still won't look pretty.

(( So you aren't achur?))

((Point of technicality, Galm is half Intaki half Civire, but the Achura share a similar cultural bond with both. Try to keep up Amarr player. X3 ))

Unless we enter a state of totalitarian communism, developing a society where we are all free to indulge in a malleable trance of ignorance is (thankfully) a far off dream. After all, when you have finally reached Totality what will you have become besides a slave to the universe? Maybe it is my Civire speaking, but I think we can be stronger than that. When the world bites you, you bite back.

I understand full well that you wish to perceive this Totality. However you can not deny your past claim that the reason you fight is to attempt to forfeit your grip on you own self and surrender that part of you to a state of serenity. (Which should be noted, that isn't perfection you are feeling. It is a hyper-alert combat high that your body has been hard wired to initiate. You can get the same chemical reaction from a syringe.)

To be honest, I am curious if your goal of becoming a weapon for the use of another would be as easily accepted by Minmatar slave soldiers forced to become such tools for the Amarr. I get that your goals are supposedly more pure because they are not subject to malevolent master of any sort to speak of, but the concept is still the same. Were others fight tooth and nail for freedom, you actively seek out the bondage of your Totality.

You can wrap that in a bow seven times and that fact still won't look pretty.

It would then please you to no end to know that may come willingly.

The Totality is not something that claims slaves or forces hands. You are part of it, as I am-- inescapably, inevitably. If it has a will, then you are as much a tool of that will as I am. We all have our parts to play, and, paradoxically, if you refuse to play your part, you are playing your part by refusing.

If I had been a victim of such arrogance, would I be able to speak so easily of letting go of my will to serve another's? Maybe not.

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I follow the soldier's path because it is a path of simple clarity, but also because it is a good path, one that will let me protect what I value.

What is the value in living for myself, when there is nothing there that will last? And when there are things that are so much more significant?

If by willingly you mean not choosing to be shot on the spot... And I'm talking about slaves not your religion...

I fight to set all my kin free and to end all slavery for good.

For the Republic, brothers and sisters! For the Republic!

Out of curiosity, you mentioned earlier that a great misjustice to any of those who follow your way to resist your part in this world, as it goes against the flow of the universe. But if we are constantly following our path even when we refuse to play our part, than how can one possibly resist this flow? Or is that the entire point? Is there just no such thing as right and wrong as we are always following our true purpose?

And once again we might gaze into a universe fueled by double standards. I wouldn't consider that a bad thing, I just like to stop and appreciate when a connection is made in a conversation.

Hinmonaa vaktikunen uakan. I can understand the honor in service to others. But don't prostitute yourself to the needs of the many while forgoing your own. All too often in life, the "greater good" comes to represent the "greatest evil."

It is a double standard in the sense that you are not dealing in the absolute. In a curious fashion you choose to disregard the opinions of the Minmatar and selectively choose the path of the soldier despite their suffering.

In an overly simplified analysis, you are acting selfishly. Again, more and more paradoxes seem to crop up the further we discuss this... Though I am begining to feel that we have gotten wildly off the original topic. Sorry about that.

It is a double standard in the sense that you are not dealing in the absolute. In a curious fashion you choose to disregard the opinions of the Minmatar and selectively choose the path of the soldier despite their suffering.

You ask why do I fight, and my reply must be because I will never surrender.

I will move forward regardless of the price that must be paid, I will see my hopes and dreams forged into reality amongst the stars.

Little remains of the man I used to be, thinking back on it is like trying to remember an old dream that always slips away into the darkness. But I do remember a family and them being taken from me by those who were supposed to protect us and when all seemed lost the Templar program took me.

It was worse than hell what I went through, I didn't even want to be there and there was no escape from it. I had become their slave and weapon.

I remember the whispering and those burning eyes in my dreams back then, something totally alien but familiar at the same time. I refused to let it in, but it in time it allowed me to regain part of myself from the indoctrination I had been subjected too. I remembered my family and person I had once been, I began to plan my escape.

My chance came by complete surprise when I was ambushed by troops from Mordus Legion. They said they could take me in and break the Empires hold on me, they were surprised when I agreed. I was transferred onto clean tech and the whispers stopped. The engineers believe that my memories of my family may have even been created by it trying to get me to break. But I know deep down that they where real, I doubt they are still alive but I will still search for them.

I have become a something else from what I was and for that I am almost grateful, however to be broken and made to kneel before another's Empress is something that I will never forgive. I now stand as a bastion against all of the Empires advances.

I will never stop, never rest, never surrender. I will stand fast and resolute in my own beliefs and I will see the Empire burn.

I am a daemon, a monster, a beast that has broken its chains, I am the Snagman. Run and hide Empress Jamyl I am coming.

Then we shall stand as a bastion against you.

A convictionless, causeless mercenary, devoid of true loyalty and faith, and now an apostate is nothing for the true children of God to fear.

If you do not fear me then your beliefs have blinded you to the threats your own Empire creates against itself.

I may not have faith as you put it but I do have loyalty to those who will stand beside me, those who will support me and to those yet to come. And it is for them and those they are loyal to that I will fight for so that I see my dreams become reality.

I look forward to the day we meet warrior of the Empire, it will be a great battle not just of might but of beliefs.

If you do not fear me then your beliefs have blinded you to the threats your own Empire creates against itself.

I may not have faith as you put it but I do have loyalty to those who will stand beside me, those who will support me and to those yet to come. And it is for them and those they are loyal to that I will fight for so that I see my dreams become reality.

I look forward to the day we meet warrior of the Empire, it will be a great battle not just of might but of beliefs.

Ryeon-haani,

I do not disagree with you. If I have not made it clear in this conversation my remarks do not always reflect my beliefs. By asking these hard questions I like to think that I can gradually build a better understanding of others. I have only just realized that from your standpoint I would appear a frazzled mix of emotions and ideals, but if you look at it from my perspective I have merely been attempting to isolate off different thoughts and build off what you have told me based on whatever question comes to mind.

Adamance,

I trust my opinions on the Minmatar are clear now.

Aria,

It is a horrible thing to be abandoned by your own family. I wish you the best of luck finding a new family in this world among us soldiers.

Why should we fear you?

Loyalty, eh? weakness; thats what it is...

Just as you say his beliefs have blinded him, your goal has done the same.

Fear is a perspective of an unfavourable situation that we can find ourselves in. Wether or not you fear me is of no concern but myself and those with the same goal are something which is unfavourable to the Empire.

I am blinded by my goal but I accepted this a long time ago, I know it has cost me much this far but not nearly as much as was taken from me and after my goal is completed I may never be able to find rest. But I will have completed what I set out to do which to me will be my greatest victory, at long last through my own will and strength I will reach my own goal.

I am glad to have met such stalwart individuals but I must ask what will you sacrifice to complete your own goals and to protect your own beliefs?

I will return tomorrow my connection in this transit is sporadic at best.

Fear is a perspective of an unfavourable situation that we can find ourselves in. Wether or not you fear me is of no concern but myself and those with the same goal are something which is unfavourable to the Empire.

I am blinded by my goal but I accepted this a long time ago, I know it has cost me much this far but not nearly as much as was taken from me and after my goal is completed I may never be able to find rest. But I will have completed what I set out to do which to me will be my greatest victory, at long last through my own will and strength I will reach my own goal.

I am glad to have met such stalwart individuals but I must ask what will you sacrifice to complete your own goals and to protect your own beliefs?

I will return tomorrow my connection in this transit is sporadic at best.

A convictionless, causeless mercenary, devoid of true loyalty and faith

I absolutely love war... it brings me joy like nothing else can to see destruction and death all across the plains... to see blood spilled and fire everywhere and to know that I caused it all.... oh sweet sweet destruction, thou art my calling.

Iv always wanted to be the cause of a horrific event that strikes fear into countless hearts..

they ignored me, they didn't see how dangerous I am if not kept in check... they ignored me and sent me into the dark, where I became depressed beyond help... now the only thing that brings me even the slightest joy is to stand above a helpless creature that has fear in its eyes afraid for its life only for me to point my riffle at it and terminate it.. watching the blood spill onto the floor and make fire burning everything down.. finally I have my revenge on those that did not take me seriously...

I live and fight for revenge that will strike absolute terror and fear into anyone that hears of my name for I am the immortal destroyer.... all will die at my feet as I fire my shot

Heh, I would love to kill you at some point; the battle will be glorious.

bring it on, I love the sound of explosions everywhere

The two of you do seem made for each other.

bring it on, I love the sound of explosions everywhere

Yeah but Void will cheat and bring his Tank.

Then I will bring a starship. I know a guy.

Yeah but Void will cheat and bring his Tank.

Forge Guns are useful for that sort of thing.

Then he'll just jump and and gun you down.... he has enough SP for that.

That is why I carry a SMG

I can also just kill him with the Forge Gun; I'm a pretty good shot, or so I like to think

I actually got a crack at Void today. I thought he'd be some pansy ass weakling outside of this tank.... joke was on me when he matched my aggressiveness level for level. I was incredibly lucky to get the kill on him.

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the information; it just gives me an even easier time killing him.

I fight for Skill Points, ISK, and for fun!!

Skill points?

((Just trollin' :P))

((Actually.... isn't that reference not allowed or something like that? haven't read to much lore))

I wasn't referencing anything...

Turns out that Void is actually a pretty decent mercenary; sadly, we haven't run into each other on opposing sides of a contract yet...

I fight to keep my liberty. Because at the end if the day, your the last person you can turn to.

Is that why your government leaders are determined by who wins a popularity contest thrown by the ignorant masses?

Democracy isn't the same as liberty.

I actually got a crack at Void today. I thought he'd be some pansy ass weakling outside of this tank.... joke was on me when he matched my aggressiveness level for level. I was incredibly lucky to get the kill on him.

He wouldn't be in Internal Error if he was bad. He is a godsent to have on your team, and a fate worse than hell to face.... unless you have your squad leader OB his tank.

I too a bullet to the head to ensure he was marked before his death.

Turns out that Void is actually a pretty decent mercenary; sadly, we haven't run into each other on opposing sides of a contract yet...

Yeah but Void will cheat and bring his Tank.

its not a cheat if its made to be used

by the feedback I get on the forums from both supporters and enemies, im surprised I don't have my own hate thread or fan thread lol

EVEN O'Dell HAS HIS OWN NERF HIM THREAD WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

So you derail threads to gain galnet fame? Where did your plans of destroying all the empires went?

nope, far from it, im always just giving my stance wether its aggressive or passive I dont care about the empires