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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.31 10:14:00 -
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I propose that everyone use this as their sidearm.
Personally, I have been using it as a primary in my dual pistol build for a month or so, but since Flaylocks were nerfed, let us give some love to one of the most overpowered yet underrated weapons in the game.
Anyone that can two-shot my Heavy with one deserves many props. |
Delta Iddon
Electronic Sports League
52
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Posted - 2013.07.31 10:31:00 -
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I do not need a puny weapon to beat my enemies to death >:3
http://i.imgur.com/ytoMfXw.jpg
Scrambler pistols are very sexy though |
Another Heavy SOB
Pure Innocence. EoN.
521
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Posted - 2013.07.31 10:32:00 -
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I roll with the TT-3 Assault or basic Assault on all my Caldari assault.
Sometimes I run out of SCP anmo before the AR just because it's so fun to use and headshots are so rewarding. Nothing ends a fight like a Scrambler to the brain.
Back in chrome when the Carthum assaults had ADV fitting requirements I had a dual pistol fit, haven't tried it since the lack of Sidearm sharpshooter. Oh, and I Hate the breach, DPS sucks. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
942
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Posted - 2013.07.31 10:33:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I propose that everyone use this as their sidearm.
Personally, I have been using it as a primary in my dual pistol build for a month or so, but since Flaylocks were nerfed, let us give some love to one of the most overpowered yet underrated weapons in the game.
Anyone that can two-shot my Heavy with one deserves many props. Nah Im an Assault Scrambler man . Dat Carthum mate....dat Carthum |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
760
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Posted - 2013.07.31 10:36:00 -
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But it requires aim so it cant be OP |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
86
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Posted - 2013.07.31 10:38:00 -
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I prefer the TT-3 |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
329
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Posted - 2013.07.31 10:40:00 -
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C'mon guys. Yes, the Assault variants are more consistent, but the TY-5 with complex damage mods is just sexy in every aspect. |
Dust Project 514
Commando Perkone Caldari State
222
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:06:00 -
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Have fun landing those 2 shots per second where they count most (which keep it from being OP). I've used all the pistol and the Viziam will get you most milage than the Breach. The only way the Breach would be better is if you have unbelievable great headshot aim with minimal hit detection issues.
PS: I can already 2 shot you Heavies with a TT-3, let alone a Viziam. |
Dust Project 514
Commando Perkone Caldari State
222
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Nah Im an Assault Scrambler man . Dat Carthum mate....dat Carthum
I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're wasting precious ISK. The Viziam performs virtually the same as the Carthum and at about half the cost. The only difference I've noticed is max ammo and ROF which is negligable. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
268
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:16:00 -
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Dude unreal, is that the h2h mods ?, how manny? |
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Delta Iddon
Electronic Sports League
53
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:20:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Dude unreal, is that the h2h mods ?, how manny?
The number is much higher now (pushing 600 damage)
That is with 5 complex mods and hand 2 hand combat 5, the ultimate man mode |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
268
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:23:00 -
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Delta Iddon wrote:OZAROW wrote:Dude unreal, is that the h2h mods ?, how manny? The number is much higher now (pushing 600 damage) That is with 5 complex mods and hand 2 hand combat 5, the ultimate man mode Is it effective or u get smoked easy with hardly any shields? It's a serious scout type suit! Fast an hits hard but glass cannon |
Delta Iddon
Electronic Sports League
53
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:27:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Delta Iddon wrote:OZAROW wrote:Dude unreal, is that the h2h mods ?, how manny? The number is much higher now (pushing 600 damage) That is with 5 complex mods and hand 2 hand combat 5, the ultimate man mode Is it effective or u get smoked easy with hardly any shields? It's a serious scout type suit! Fast an hits hard but glass cannon
Out of around 30 matches where i only used the man mode suit, there was only 1 match where i had more deaths than kills (thanks starfire revo :P)
I wouldn't say its effective but it amuses me because of how fast i can shred the 3 or 4 people trying to group hack a point without making a sound |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
827
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:35:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:C'mon guys. Yes, the Assault variants are more consistent, but the TY-5 with complex damage mods is just sexy in every aspect.
Yeah and not OP at all cause if I miss that headshot the cadence will more than likely lead to me getting ****** unless my opponent is truly without a brain. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
269
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:35:00 -
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Delta Iddon wrote:OZAROW wrote:Delta Iddon wrote:OZAROW wrote:Dude unreal, is that the h2h mods ?, how manny? The number is much higher now (pushing 600 damage) That is with 5 complex mods and hand 2 hand combat 5, the ultimate man mode Is it effective or u get smoked easy with hardly any shields? It's a serious scout type suit! Fast an hits hard but glass cannon Out of around 30 matches where i only used the man mode suit, there was only 1 match where i had more deaths than kills (thanks starfire revo :P) I wouldn't say its effective but it amuses me because of how fast i can shred the 3 or 4 people trying to group hack a point without making a sound Get nova knives, punch slash! I run mini scout proto an it has 25% bonus an also have h2h at lv 3 but wasn't sure if it's worth the points to go to 5. A proto suit has only five mod slots 3/2 but runs 10.36 Try a enhanced cardiac for more punches, if you go L1R1 back an forth you can do like 8 mega fast sprint punches but in a scout suit u probably die once for every kill |
Delta Iddon
Electronic Sports League
53
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:44:00 -
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OZAROW wrote: Get nova knives, punch slash! I run mini scout proto an it has 25% bonus an also have h2h at lv 3 but wasn't sure if it's worth the points to go to 5. A proto suit has only five mod slots 3/2 but runs 10.36 Try a enhanced cardiac for more punches, if you go L1R1 back an forth you can do like 8 mega fast sprint punches but in a scout suit u probably die once for every kill
Even with the melee damage bonus, the minny scout does not have the highest possible melee damage, currently the minmatar proto assault has it.
Nova knives can get higher than 600 damage but only on the proto minny scout
There is also no point with a melee+nova knife combo as you can melee much faster
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
322
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Posted - 2013.07.31 18:14:00 -
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First rule of scrambler pistol club: NEVER TALK ABOUT SCRAMBLER PISTOL CLUB! Second rule of scrambler pistol club: NEVER TALK ABOUT SCRAMBLER PISTOL CLUB!
/thread |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
841
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Posted - 2013.07.31 18:15:00 -
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I use the TT-3 Assault Scrambler Pistol and love it.
Takes out heavies in 5 body shots. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1170
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Posted - 2013.07.31 18:29:00 -
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No! Why does everyone always give away my secrets!?
I love my breach pistols, even though I used to be an assault pistol guy until a few weeks back.
I killed several heavies earlier with a couple of shots from my TY-5 and finished off with my M209 SMG and it's always very satisfying. I wouldn't use the proto versions even though I've specced into them because I like to run at an isk profit and my scout suit wouldn't survive enough to make any money even with increased firepower.
I've said before that the slow rate of fire is actually a blessing because it makes you take your time to aim your shots and conserves your ammo, which runs out very quickly with the assault variants. But yeh. headshots are so important - it will never be considered an actual OP weapon as long as people struggle to get headshots. |
negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
112
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:06:00 -
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Dang that melee dmg |
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
522
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:11:00 -
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Main problem with Breach is the damage degradation starting at 13m instead of 22m.
Speaking of Scramblers, the IA5 Tactical. Unique, not on market. Seems to be identical to an ADV pistol on paper but with one less round in the magazine. What's it's deal? Any unique properties to speak of? |
xLT Green
Damage Core corp. The Superpowers
15
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:33:00 -
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The wolfman scrambler pistol is the fing s**t |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
80
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:36:00 -
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NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!! SCRAMBLERS SUCK BALLS!!!!! DUVOLLE STILL WINS MOVE ALONG!!!!!! |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1376
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:41:00 -
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Delta Iddon wrote:OZAROW wrote:Dude unreal, is that the h2h mods ?, how manny? The number is much higher now (pushing 600 damage) That is with 5 complex mods and hand 2 hand combat 5, the ultimate man mode
lol, 5 complex mods.
Please see this regarding stacking penalties:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Stacking_penalties
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
909
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:19:00 -
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First off, I used to dual scrambler pistol back in Chromosome from time to time, would run an assault variant and a breach variant. Used the assault much more. I'm not sure on the actual math, but the damage over time has to be pretty similar and I simply can't trust my aim enough to use a slow firing weapon like the breach. Yes it's nice against heavies, but what about those crazy shotgun scouts? It only takes one headshot from an assault to kill them, so I'd rather semi-spam the assault variant and hope one connects.
Secondly, why do people suggest we not talk about how awesome scrambler pistols are? Maybe its just me, but I like to let people in on fun ways to play the game even if it means more of a challenge to me.
True Adamance wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:I propose that everyone use this as their sidearm.
Personally, I have been using it as a primary in my dual pistol build for a month or so, but since Flaylocks were nerfed, let us give some love to one of the most overpowered yet underrated weapons in the game.
Anyone that can two-shot my Heavy with one deserves many props. Nah Im an Assault Scrambler man . Dat Carthum mate....dat Carthum Didn't you just skill into scrambler pistols? How did you get the Carthum already? Regardless, glad to see you ditched that filthy Minmatar smg.
Poplo Furuya wrote:Main problem with Breach is the damage degradation starting at 13m instead of 22m.
Speaking of Scramblers, the IA5 Tactical. Unique, not on market. Seems to be identical to an ADV pistol on paper but with one less round in the magazine. What's it's deal? Any unique properties to speak of? The IA5 is a completely useless weapon. It is inferior to the other scrambler pistols you unlock at the same level, I have no clue why these even exist. |
Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI EoN.
209
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:26:00 -
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Delta Iddon wrote:OZAROW wrote: Get nova knives, punch slash! I run mini scout proto an it has 25% bonus an also have h2h at lv 3 but wasn't sure if it's worth the points to go to 5. A proto suit has only five mod slots 3/2 but runs 10.36 Try a enhanced cardiac for more punches, if you go L1R1 back an forth you can do like 8 mega fast sprint punches but in a scout suit u probably die once for every kill
Even with the melee damage bonus, the minny scout does not have the highest possible melee damage, currently the minmatar proto assault has it. Nova knives can get higher than 600 damage but only on the proto minny scout There is also no point with a melee+nova knife combo as you can melee much faster
I run an ADV scout with Proto Knives and 1 in proficiency. WIth a charged up shot, you can instakill most proto heavies with two direct hits. One slash is all it takes for most non-tank proto infantry. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
86
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:27:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:Main problem with Breach is the damage degradation starting at 13m instead of 22m.
Speaking of Scramblers, the IA5 Tactical. Unique, not on market. Seems to be identical to an ADV pistol on paper but with one less round in the magazine. What's it's deal? Any unique properties to speak of? High rof, lower damage, and more zoom when ADS
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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1342
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:20:00 -
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There is no secret cult involving scrambler pistols. Scrambler Pistols, are in fact, a waste of SP, do not use them...
God damn it shanks what the hell are you thinking! #1 rule of fight club; don't talk about fight club! |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2885
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:39:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:There is no secret cult involving scrambler pistols. Scrambler Pistols, are in fact, a waste of SP, do not use them...
God damn it shanks what the hell are you thinking! #1 rule of fight club; don't talk about fight club! The initials of Scrambler Pistol, matches those of Skill Points, CONSPIRACY!!!!!!! |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2565
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:51:00 -
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Breach flaylocks all the way.
The breach variant (only standard, btw) does more direct damage than core flaylocks |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2565
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:52:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:There is no secret cult involving scrambler pistols. Scrambler Pistols, are in fact, a waste of SP, do not use them...
God damn it shanks what the hell are you thinking! #1 rule of fight club; don't talk about fight club! I'll have to do some investigating. While you were gone, someone told me that the cult misses you. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
830
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:58:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:There is no secret cult involving scrambler pistols. Scrambler Pistols, are in fact, a waste of SP, do not use them...
God damn it shanks what the hell are you thinking! #1 rule of fight club; don't talk about fight club!
I have not been executing infidels who lack situational awareness, please forgive me oh Grand Master.
Um, wait, what am I saying? I just had a momentary lapse of reason, please forgive me.
**Eats Scrambler Pistol** |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
394
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Posted - 2013.07.31 22:55:00 -
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Oh is that the rule? We dont talk about how horrible scrambler pistols are and how nobody should ever use them? I guess we shouldnt talk about how absolutely terrible they will be once 1.4 comes along and aim assist turns back on, causing magnetism and sticky aim to make landing those head shots even...harder? |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
337
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:03:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:Oh is that the rule? We dont talk about how horrible scrambler pistols are and how nobody should ever use them? I guess we shouldnt talk about how absolutely terrible they will be once 1.4 comes along and aim assist turns back on, causing magnetism and sticky aim to make landing those head shots even...harder? I can do nothing but smile at this post... |
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