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Shrapnels
The Order 1886
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Posted - 2013.07.30 14:46:00 -
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way to go CCP brake something that was Not even broken in the first place.
My Caldari proto-Logi (all 5 slots are complex shield) still has MORE Shield then the Assault ck.0 ( 4 complex shield) with it's new shield bonus.
The new Shield bonus only gives me 29 bonus shield strength. Now why the hell would I have picked the ck.0 suit based on its Civ bonus now?
I solely picked ck.0 suit just based off the Reload bonus it was given. Yes, that 10% reload bonus is noticeable to me. I can only imagine what the 25% reload bonus will be on Commando suits.
CCP, Do the RIGHT THING and whenever you "Change" any Suit for any stupid reason you need to give a SP cost refund/respect for the "DropSuit Command" category.
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Beren Hurin
K-A-O-S theory
844
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Posted - 2013.07.30 14:48:00 -
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Sorry dude, there was a time and place for feedback and this isn't it. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
696
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Posted - 2013.07.30 14:59:00 -
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Honestly this has been discussed for several weeks now. That being said.........its stupid that you think the reload bonus is better than the shield bonus you get now. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
394
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Posted - 2013.07.30 15:00:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Honestly this has been discussed for several weeks now. That being said.........its stupid that you think the reload bonus is better than the shield bonus you get now.
seconded on both counts. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
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Posted - 2013.07.30 15:08:00 -
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wait, so doing the quick math, youve only gained 29 shield hp, but are using proto suits? so your racial bonus should give you 10%....and if youve got a proto suit stacked with complex extenders and arent missing the needed shield op and shield extender skills, youll sit at 553 shield hp before the change, now add 10% which SHOULD be +53 hp, not 29....
can someone else veryify/deny these results, coffe hasnt kicked in yet |
Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
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Posted - 2013.07.30 15:14:00 -
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but you should probably should have looked at your bonus skill.
It was a flat 2% to hybrid weapon reload speed. it wasn't per level.
Heavy Sentinel suits was the only other suit in game with the same ****** 2% to reload speed, but heavy weapon respective of course.
I guess you don't notice things as well as you thought. |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
216
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:55:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Honestly this has been discussed for several weeks now. That being said.........its stupid that you think the reload bonus is better than the shield bonus you get now.
lol yeah 29 bonus shield is NO WAY and ***** better then the 10% Reload bonus. looks like you really do have an "Internal Error" problem |
Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
23
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:57:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Honestly this has been discussed for several weeks now. That being said.........its stupid that you think the reload bonus is better than the shield bonus you get now. lol.... yeah 29 bonus shield is NO WAY better then the 10% Reload bonus. looks like you really do have an "Internal Error" problem
lol u cud always fast swap to sidearm to finish off a kill  |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
216
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:57:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Sorry to rain on your parade, but you should probably should have looked at your bonus skill.
It was a flat 2% to hybrid weapon reload speed. it wasn't per level.
Heavy Sentinel suits was the only other suit in game with the same ****** 2% to reload speed, but heavy weapon respective of course.
I guess you don't notice things as well as you thought.
how stupid are you? it's rhetorical |
General John Ripper
The Generals
EoN.
1971
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Posted - 2013.07.31 19:58:00 -
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Lol op fails at math and knowing what his old racial bonus actually was. |
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CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:02:00 -
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Now you can be a Logi, instead of a pub-stomping proto bear. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
637
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:03:00 -
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I'm with ya
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=97952 |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
706
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:03:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Honestly this has been discussed for several weeks now. That being said.........its stupid that you think the reload bonus is better than the shield bonus you get now. lol.... yeah 29 bonus shield is NO WAY better then the 10% Reload bonus. looks like you really do have an "Internal Error" problem
The reload bonus was 2% per level so 5 lvls brings it to 10%. That being said this equates to at most 3/10ths of a second difference in reload speed. You realize even with this the scramblers still reload 2/10s faster right?
Also apparently you dont know about the reload canceling you can do to cut down the reload time (unless it was fixed in this most recent patch). And yes 29 shields extra is better than 3/10ths second reload speed decrease. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
46
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:16:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Shrapnels wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Honestly this has been discussed for several weeks now. That being said.........its stupid that you think the reload bonus is better than the shield bonus you get now. lol.... yeah 29 bonus shield is NO WAY better then the 10% Reload bonus. looks like you really do have an "Internal Error" problem The reload bonus was 2% per level so 5 lvls brings it to 10%. That being said this equates to at most 3/10ths of a second difference in reload speed. You realize even with this the scramblers still reload 2/10s faster right? Also apparently you dont know about the reload canceling you can do to cut down the reload time (unless it was fixed in this most recent patch). And yes 29 shields extra is better than 3/10ths second reload speed decrease.
Dude, it was 2% flat. I searched all old patch notes and release notes, even 3rd party sites. It wad a under performing bonus. If it was per level then it woulda actually been nice. Don't believe us( I didn't at first) just look at the sentinals crap reload bonus. Notice the per level is missing there too? That's cause it's not pet level. :-D |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
149
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:23:00 -
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Will the whining ever stop? I actually found a pretty good solution to suits getting nerfed: Just spec into another. WOrks for me. My plan is to have at least 3 or 4 Protosuits. Will costs some SP, sure. But this way even when I don't like the nerf on a suit I can just use another one for the time being, until the next changes roll in. I guess I'll have my 4 Protosuits ready in maybe 6 months. Still speccing some supportskills at the moment. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
147
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:42:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Shrapnels wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Honestly this has been discussed for several weeks now. That being said.........its stupid that you think the reload bonus is better than the shield bonus you get now. lol.... yeah 29 bonus shield is NO WAY better then the 10% Reload bonus. looks like you really do have an "Internal Error" problem The reload bonus was 2% per level so 5 lvls brings it to 10%. That being said this equates to at most 3/10ths of a second difference in reload speed. You realize even with this the scramblers still reload 2/10s faster right? Also apparently you dont know about the reload canceling you can do to cut down the reload time (unless it was fixed in this most recent patch). And yes 29 shields extra is better than 3/10ths second reload speed decrease. Dude, it was 2% flat. I searched all old patch notes and release notes, even 3rd party sites. It wad a under performing bonus. If it was per level then it woulda actually been nice. Don't believe us( I didn't at first) just look at the sentinals crap reload bonus. Notice the per level is missing there too? That's cause it's not pet level. :-D
It was definitely 2% per level. I timed the reload speed way back when to make sure it was working correctly. My AR reload speed was 2.7 seconds while my non-Caldari was the standard 3 second. Just because it didn't specify "per level" doesn't mean it didnt apply. |
WattsLA
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:50:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:wait, so doing the quick math, youve only gained 29 shield hp, but are using proto suits? so your racial bonus should give you 10%....and if youve got a proto suit stacked with complex extenders and arent missing the needed shield op and shield extender skills, youll sit at 553 shield hp before the change, now add 10% which SHOULD be +53 hp, not 29....
can someone else veryify/deny these results, coffe hasnt kicked in yet
With prote u get 586 something I think got double check advanced suite 506 or 502 on.mine cuh |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
150
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Posted - 2013.07.31 22:08:00 -
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66 * 1.1 (10% Shield Extension V bonus) = 72.6 HP per extender
72.6 * 1.1 (10% Caldari Assault V bonus) = 79.9 HP per extender
79.9 - 72.6 = 7.3 more HP per extender
7.3 * 4 (Max high slot count of Proto Caldari Assault) = 29.2 rounded to 29 more HP possible . |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
46
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Posted - 2013.07.31 22:11:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:66 * 1.1 (10% Shield Extension V bonus) = 72.6 HP per extender
72.6 * 1.1 (10% Caldari Assault V bonus) = 79.9 HP per extender
79.9 - 72.6 = 7.3 more HP per extender
7.3 * 4 (Max high slot count of Proto Caldari Assault) = 29.2 rounded to 29 more HP possible .
Thanks guys the break down, I did the math after re reading and coffee but forgot to post the findings. Derp. |
Dale Templar
The Secret.23
350
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:03:00 -
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You did not notice that reload time difference, if you did you are talking completely out your ******* arse.
Caldari Assault here, thank god we've got a racial bonus that's actually somewhat noticeable.
More Shields + Shield Recharge bonus.
tyvm/
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Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
151
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:10:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:You did not notice that reload time difference, if you did you are talking completely out your ******* arse.
Caldari Assault here, thank god we've got a racial bonus that's actually somewhat noticeable.
More Shields + Shield Recharge bonus.
tyvm/
With AR Rapid Reload III it brought reload speed down to about 2.45 seconds. Half a second reload can mean life or death in a CQC 1v1. 29 shields is less than 1 bullet from even a STD level AR. I'd venture to say the former bonus was actually pretty nice for someone who uses a TAR pretty often. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
563
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:28:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:66 * 1.1 (10% Shield Extension V bonus) = 72.6 HP per extender
72.6 * 1.1 (10% Caldari Assault V bonus) = 79.9 HP per extender
79.9 - 72.6 = 7.3 more HP per extender
7.3 * 4 (Max high slot count of Proto Caldari Assault) = 29.2 rounded to 29 more HP possible .
I +1 math. |
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