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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:11:00 -
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Can the CPM push for CCP to make a thread in the feedback forum section asking for suggestions on what kind of suit bonuses everything should have?
From what I hear CCP is working on new and better bonuses for the Logi suits primarily. I don't see why they shouldn't make a thread open for suggestions for all the suits (including the missing racials). Even if they plan on only doing the Logi suits at first, they will also have great suggestions for the rest of the suits for when they decide to work those bonuses out. Most of the current bonuses are worthless and they need to do a complete overhaul of everything, and I honestly don't trust CCP to figure it out all by themselves.
I know people have been posting suggestions in all kinds of threads on the forum, but it would be great with a thread dedicated for this, started by CCP and maybe also a place for CCP to post their own ideas on this.
Is that something that could be done (this could also be an idea for them to do regarding other stuff)? |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:48:00 -
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Don't worry.
Stuff like this is part of our holy communication crusade. We've been pushing for the players to get a chance to provide input on major changes like this since before the CPM was even a thing. Everyone's been asking for this for almost 2 years. And after the CPM was formed, we've continued to push it, and bring it up at meetings with completely different purposes than communication.
We're never going to stop pushing for more communication, until CCP Shanghai finally realizes how important it is to making a quality game, as CCP Reyjavik has with Eve. |
Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:58:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Don't worry.
Stuff like this is part of our holy communication crusade. We've been pushing for the players to get a chance to provide input on major changes like this since before the CPM was even a thing. Everyone's been asking for this for almost 2 years. And after the CPM was formed, we've continued to push it, and bring it up at meetings with completely different purposes than communication.
We're never going to stop pushing for more communication, until CCP Shanghai finally realizes how important it is to making a quality game, as CCP Reyjavik has with Eve. Thank you. I hope that CCP realises sooner than later that their developers interacting more with the community will only lead to good things. The community wants to improve this game just as much as the developers, and the community should be included in this process. |
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.30 14:38:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Don't worry.
Stuff like this is part of our holy communication crusade. We've been pushing for the players to get a chance to provide input on major changes like this since before the CPM was even a thing. Everyone's been asking for this for almost 2 years. And after the CPM was formed, we've continued to push it, and bring it up at meetings with completely different purposes than communication.
We're never going to stop pushing for more communication, until CCP Shanghai finally realizes how important it is to making a quality game, as CCP Reyjavik has with Eve. The problem that I have with opening it up to the 'community' is the that fact that there are some people, like me, that like some of the bonuses that some others consider 'worthless'. I personally, don't mind all assault suits have a shield regen buff, even armor tankers need shields to some degree.
And I really love the Minmatar Assault bonus to sidearms, I'll love it even more when more sidearms arrive, but its not a bad bonus.
I think that instead of replacing all suit bonuses, maybe we should tweak the ones that are present and add more to each suit. |
Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.07.30 16:13:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:The problem that I have with opening it up to the 'community' is the that fact that there are some people, like me, that like some of the bonuses that some others consider 'worthless'. I personally, don't mind all assault suits have a shield regen buff, even armor tankers need shields to some degree.
And I really love the Minmatar Assault bonus to sidearms, I'll love it even more when more sidearms arrive, but its not a bad bonus.
I think that instead of replacing all suit bonuses, maybe we should tweak the ones that are present and add more to each suit. Which is why it would be good with a dedicated thread on suit bonuses where everyone can give their ideas on what kind of bonuses we need, and discussions between players (and devs) about all the bonuses can take place.
I can go into discussion with you about the two specific bonuses you brought up, but I would rather wait for a dedicated thread started by CCP before I do that. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
TYRANNY of EVIL MEN
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Posted - 2013.07.30 16:55:00 -
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To all you logis you need to understand what is happening here, the change to the logi bonus is not designed to better accomodate the logi, thjs discussion is designed to prep us for more weakening of the logi, they plan to take the logis ability to heal its owm armor away to undermine the logi, by forcing the use of another low slot for something that is not cpu expansion or hp in the form of armor. This will force you to add at least 1 complex repairer to match what you as a proto logi have already speced into, this suit bonus is great because it says that the guy who heals other peoples armor has the inate ability to heal himself. This change when added with the other cpu nerf will drastically alter your suit options, this is the reason they have added the extra low slot to the amarr logi before suit bonus is altered, this is being done under the guise of better suiting us, but I think most logis would want the same suit bonus if asked, you need to speak up now, do not let them weaken us further......... |
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.30 17:13:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Vin Mora wrote:The problem that I have with opening it up to the 'community' is the that fact that there are some people, like me, that like some of the bonuses that some others consider 'worthless'. I personally, don't mind all assault suits have a shield regen buff, even armor tankers need shields to some degree.
And I really love the Minmatar Assault bonus to sidearms, I'll love it even more when more sidearms arrive, but its not a bad bonus.
I think that instead of replacing all suit bonuses, maybe we should tweak the ones that are present and add more to each suit. Which is why it would be good with a dedicated thread on suit bonuses where everyone can give their ideas on what kind of bonuses we need, and discussions between players (and devs) about all the bonuses can take place. I can go into discussion with you about the two specific bonuses you brought up, but I would rather wait for a dedicated thread started by CCP before I do that. I would like that, I actually like most of the current bonus, but I not against change, as long as its for the better :) |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.07.30 18:06:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:To all you logis you need to understand what is happening here, the change to the logi bonus is not designed to better accomodate the logi, thjs discussion is designed to prep us for more weakening of the logi, they plan to take the logis ability to heal its owm armor away to undermine the logi, by forcing the use of another low slot for something that is not cpu expansion or hp in the form of armor. This will force you to add at least 1 complex repairer to match what you as a proto logi have already speced into, this suit bonus is great because it says that the guy who heals other peoples armor has the inate ability to heal himself. This change when added with the other cpu nerf will drastically alter your suit options, this is the reason they have added the extra low slot to the amarr logi before suit bonus is altered, this is being done under the guise of better suiting us, but I think most logis would want the same suit bonus if asked, you need to speak up now, do not let them weaken us further......... This is all just conjecture and guessing - you have no idea what CCP's actual plans are. All they've said is that they're going to make the logi bonuses more logi/equipment related, which can't be seen as a bad thing for anyone that actually runs logi. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:58:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote: The problem that I have with opening it up to the 'community' is the that fact that there are some people, like me, that like some of the bonuses that some others consider 'worthless'. I personally, don't mind all assault suits have a shield regen buff, even armor tankers need shields to some degree.
The thing is, just because you like something, doesn't mean its not also stupid. CCP has acknowledged that most of the current bonuses are utter nonsense. |
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