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Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:27:00 -
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Not asking for a nerf so please read carefully:
Currently on Dust the rate of Forge gunners are increasing. While this is a good thing for the weapn, it also means it could be it's downfall. I am seeing an ever increasing amount of forge gunners that go way high up to the sky scrapers and just mow anything from snipers, normal infantry, tanks, to dropships trying to reach it.
If this keeps up and if it keeps increasing, sadly, the amount of threads that the forge gun is OP will increase, and I know how you forge gunners are trying to defend the gun with all your might but in reality it is you guys that are even causing for this threads to constantly appear. If you forge gunners don't want your beloved forge gun to meet the nerf hammer then it is up to you to stop it.
I have clearly no problem with forge gunners on the ground, even if they are more vulnerable there, people won't complain as much. But everyone has problem with them being way high up and unkillable since they can easily destroy the dropships coming towards them and kill any snipers that threaten them and since they have heavy armour they can support a good amout of damage before falling.
Like I said not asking for a nerf. Just for this trend to die down a little. Then the QQ threads on the forge gun will die slowly and the forge gunners can go a day without worrying on seeing a forge gun nerf on Dust's next patch notes.
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Either that or CCP can simple make every sky scrapper have tall, very thin edges so that way no one that high up will be problem.
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Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:37:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP primarily uses performance data to determine what needs nerfing / buffing. If you look at the dev blog concerning the flaylock nerf, it comes with numbers and graphs, which can't be made with butthurt and cries.
If forges need nerfing, the numbers will show it. Haven't heard anything about a nerf, or even hinting to one, so forges should be safe for at least the near future.
Exactly. The forge gun is safe for now..... who knows if maybe by 1.4 or 1.5 we'll be seeing a nerf on them which will bring the forge gunners raging but really all I can say is that they brought that upon themselves by constantly using the tactic of going very high up and owining everyone just for the lols |
Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:43:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP primarily uses performance data to determine what needs nerfing / buffing. If you look at the dev blog concerning the flaylock nerf, it comes with numbers and graphs, which can't be made with butthurt and cries.
If forges need nerfing, the numbers will show it. Haven't heard anything about a nerf, or even hinting to one, so forges should be safe for at least the near future. well, but we all should agree that a gun capable of 1 shotting ppl in an fps like dust with such an insane amount of HP is a pretty bad thing. Honestly it's not really a problem like LAVs used to be...but they didn't learn anything from the old swarm launcher back in closed beta?
Fair point |
Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:57:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Honestly, CCP just needs to eliminate all of the flat topped towers, buildings, and structures from the center of the maps.
The relatively low structures aren't that big of a deal, and make for an interesting dynamic. The "mushroom building" is a good example of relative height advantage done right. Those extremely tall towers around the outside of Line Harvest and in the middle of the large complex with the Bravo point that is inside the building,, on the other hand, are the real problem.
Get rid of the obviously exploitable map elements, and the exploitation of those elements go with it.
They can't get rid of them because then the maps will look even more bland.
What is funny is that adding those flat, thin edges on each tall building was dicosed during the closed beta because of snipers and forge gunners taking advantage of that. But instead of CCP adding that, they added a flight ceiling height. Which reduce the problem by alot (some stil found a way to get up there by using bosters on the dropships)
But now that the flight ceiling has been lifted everyone can get up there which means forge gun galore up there. Not even snipers like to hang on those towers anymore. |
Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2013.07.30 03:26:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Low risk high rewards with my MLT heavy frame and MLT FG vs high risk high rewards with my logi hmmm havent played my logi since! If you can't beat em join em?:D
And you are reason why people are asking for foe guns to be nerfed |
Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2013.07.30 07:08:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:OP started this thread off the wrong way regardless. "Not asking for a nerf so blah blah blah" It is just like when you tell your girl "Hey don't take this the wrong way but blah blah blah" It doesn't matter what the blah blah part is she is ONLY focusing on taking it the wrong way right off the bat! I think he wants a nerf so so soooo bad not tricking me! The post started and ended with NERF. Middle part was just him trying to slip ya a mickey! EYE C U!
When exactly did I say "pls nerf the gun's damage or rate of fire" I said no such things. I just clearly stated the reason WHY many people want a nerf on the forge gun. And everyone knows it.
Forge Guns are fine. You need to hit near the enemy in order to kill them, and they do a good damage amunt on vehicles. I will not complain on the dropship though since CCP stated that 1.4 will be a vehicle patch. I smell a dropship buff. Also the tanks we have right now aren't exactly proto tanks. So that's why a a single forge can destroy them so easily. Now when proto tanks are added back again I'll see if the forge gunners are still finding an easy way to destrpoytanks.
Other than all don't get all butthurt on me simplly because I stated the right facts on why alot of non-forgers want the gun nerfed. So calm your **** dude. |
Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2013.07.31 03:51:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:I love my forge gun, but l know in the not to distant future, it will be nerfed. It's sad but true.
Scrubs using it to tower snipe will become the new FOTM. After the fraylock nerf bad players are now clamoring to find ways to get easy kills.
Currently I'm am trying to transition to the Plasma Cannon. Underpowered? Yes, but it's better than waiting for my FG to get nerfed.
You sir get my drift. Even if the forge gun is fine, this continuous play style will drive the players crazy and rage about the forge gun even more.
If the forge gunners that use that play style were to tone it down a little then the wouldn't have to worry about the forge gun getting hit with the nerf hammer |
Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2013.08.01 03:59:00 -
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Arunis Gen wrote:I was doing that **** way before it became popular. Not only am I able to kill infantry, I can cover an objective, take care of hostile vehicles, and reap sweet hate from squads who choose to orbital only me.
Hipster you is hipster |
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