Here here! though too often would mean we may need to knocked it down a notch to 2x and save the 3x for the big things.

It's your fault for NOT skilling into it. And the OP factor primarily came from stacking 5 complex shield extenders (coupled with the racial bonus) and then 4 of some sort of armor module and going GOD MODE. I never did that.

It's not really that good. The removal of the racial bonus will impact some people a fair bit. The shield delay will impact everyone moderately and the large CPU nerf is going to impact everyone who uses the suit dramatically.

I have 18 million SP, 16 of which was used for that suit and with that suit in mind. That's the current (as in pre-1.3) suit, not the nerfed one. The new changes will impact how I'll play the class/role/spec significantly and I think it warrants a refund of the SP I spent on the suit.

Back when I originally decided to go with Caldari it was a really close call between that and Minmitar. Most of the reasons I picked the Caldari over the Minmitar are going away now. I didn't choose this 1.3 Caldari suit and never would have if these new numbers were the original ones.

1. CCP never said the caldari logi was being nerfed. They said there were going to be adjustments to logi suits. For all we know, they were going to buff the other logi suits. Unlikely, but it's CCP, so anything is possible.

2. I already use a CPU extender. An enhanced one. I haven't bothered to check the math, but with level 5 in the dropsuit CPU skill and a complex CPU extender, I might get close to recovering the loss of the CPU. The problem is that's another 800k SP that could have spent elsewhere and I never would have had to spend because I wouldn't have picked this suit.

3. What about people who don't read the forums? The nerf was only talked about here and not everyone can be bothered to read a bunch of white text. If people did some comparisons in-game they would have seen the Caldari was a powerful suit, and probably would have specced into it. Now you're going to punish them too because of something CCP screwed up?

1. I expected changes to the suit. I expected them to change the racial bonus first and foremost (I agree the racial was overpowered). I figured they might change the shield delay a little, despite it being a shield-reliant suit. Both of those I could accept, though not happily. But both of those and a huge loss of CPU? Come on...I never would have picked this suit if these were the starting numbers and that's really the bottom line.

I just want the SP I spent on the suit back, despite the fact that I spent almost all my SP based on having this suit.

2. I'm still not entirely clear on how the regulator bonus is going to work. Is it going to be 5% per level to efficacy? For example with 1 complex regulator (25%) and level 5 racial, you'd be sitting at around 31.25% efficacy for that one regulator? Or is it going to be an additional 25% added on? In which case it just negates the changes they made to the shield recharge delay (assuming you use a regulator, which if you don't you need to skill into to have a useful bonus).

3. As for people complaining, people complain about a lack of skill used for sniping and AR efficiency at every range just as much if not more since 1.0 hit. Has anything happened to them? I'd accept all the changes except the CPU one.

1. People complained about the mass drivers all the time in Chromosome. That was back when they could have a potential of like 9.5-11m radius and still do a ton of damage. That nerf was as obvious as any other in this game. Plus the fact that they're still incredibly powerful now and I wouldn't be surprised if you see another nerf down the line (this is coming from someone who uses them).

2. Maybe I'm not being clear. Is the 5% bonus 5% of the module or is it 5% base. As in:

1 complex shield regulator (25%) + Level 5 racial (25%) = 50% total
or is it 25% efficacy (Level 5 Racial) of the 25% base from the module = 25% + 6.25% = 31.25% total

The former just negates the shield delay nerf so that's only a "buff" if you have 2 or more shield regulators (which become less efficient through stacking penalties and percentage of smaller numbers). The latter is just a bad racial bonus.

3. The racial bonus was OP and I admitted that. A lot of us did. The 40 base CPU loss which works out to 50+ with the right skills and even more with the CPU extender modules was too much.

The racial bonus is 5% per level not 10%, so it would be 60% total if your reading of their language is correct. Guess we'll find out tomorrow.

And MDs are good in PC too, just need to get used to arc/splash so you don't hit your own guys. If you hit an enemy with one good flux it's easy mode.