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ALPHA DECRIPTER
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:54:00 -
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xDeceiver wrote:Honestly I have sniped people from the red zone before but I don't anymore because I realized that its not fair , You have unlimited ammo and you can't be seen as well to others from the redzone. I think that CCP should put up a red zone barrier for ONLY sniper rifles to prevent red zone sniping from happening.
Not sure what you mean by "redzone barrier"
If this would stop redzone sniping then you should consider the fact that getting red lined means that snipers are screwed
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
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Posted - 2013.07.28 01:10:00 -
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I see.
Would it be too much to turn your redzone, green? or at least have the dividing line between your redzone and the neutral zone so that you no exactly when your out.
I have gone zone hunting a few times and snipers would still be screwed (not too much though) as they wouldn't be able to fend off fast hunters. (not all snipers use sidearms).
Either way I'm kinda ok with this .
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
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Posted - 2013.07.28 01:35:00 -
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If you suck at sniping and have specced into HMGs, shotguns, or Knives... exactly what would you have those players do?
And don't say "Learn to snipe" as that would be telling them to play in a way that they are uncomfortable with and that is not "Fighting your own war" but instead that's "Fighting the snipers war" and that isn't what this game is about. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:26:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Counter snipe....
Us snipers see weapons with a higher FR than 50.0 as unfair, or the fact the rendering is beyond screwed. Or damage was screwed with in a bad way, or should I say, another shield favored change. How bout you get on with your game and leave us to play using our tactics, don't like it don't do it, don't like others doing it, blow their ******* skulls out. We are using the map, as it is given to us, and on my screen, Iam NOT in the redzone. I don't get a gtfo countdown.
Your safe zone is the enemies red zone and is not visible to you. THAT'S why you don't get a count down and that's why people hate it. To be high up in the mountains takes more then 20 seconds do to the poor mountain mechanics and therefore can take longer then 20 seconds to reach you, let alone actually kill you.
I agree that snipers got gimped with the whole graphics thing (P*sses me off) and I feel that very much needs to be fixed.
Not everyone is good at sniping so people really need to stop telling others to just counter snipe! That's like a hardcore sniper losing his rifle and going up against a shield tank. Would it be fair to just say "Just call your own tank" even though you've never spent a single point in tanks? Or seeing a heavy coming for you and players say "Switch to your heavy set" when, as a sniper, you probably only use a logi or light suit? The game should never have a "Fight fire with fire" mentality cuz then all the diversity would be ruined.
The OP is not complaining about how far you guys are sniping from but the fact that you are protected by a field of instant death (have yet to see that in RL so stop f*cking using that as an excuse). If you are out of the red zone and still getting long range kills and the enemy still can't get to you then it's there own fault and I have yet to see anyone complain about that.
When you use a dropship to get to an inaccessible location and snipe, nobody complains (although irritating) as it's deemed to be just another tactic and most players (snipers and non-snipers alike) feel that it's actually a smart move.
So in short, it's your invisible guardian that nobody likes, NOT your actual location. If the redzone was gone then there wouldn't be a single complaint towards snipers. My suggestions would allow honorable snipers to know exactly if they are within the safe zone or not so they can leave while the OP is designed to punish the cowards that use it as a crutch.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST . |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:53:00 -
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In pub matches you can't rely on your team to counter snipe and a sniper isn't effected by the enemy's redline as that would be getting too close to the enemy anyway. It is actually scouts wielding shotguns and SMGs that tend to go sniper hunting as the sniper can't see them coming.
I completely agree with the rifle buffs you suggested as they are just a little bit UP.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST . |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
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Posted - 2013.07.28 07:27:00 -
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Jax Saurian wrote:As a redline sniper their are plenty of ways to kill me more then you would think and against all sanity and reason I'll tell you a few
1. drop ships - these things scare me mostly because they have an extended red line thing which lets them go further then anything else 2. tanks - especially rail tanks one good shot and I'm dead 3. Forge guns - ... no comment (effing a-holes) 4. haven't seen it in action yet but... plasma cannons - heard they work against snipers pretty well
So remember counter sniping is good but there are plenty of alternatives
Well that was a constructive comment
I agree that all of these tactics will work. I personally prefer to counter snipe. My gripe was intended to speak for those who can't.
It's rare to find someone that can't perform any of these but there are players out there. At this point the only issue would be the team that those players are with.
I don't have tanks, hate forge guns, despise explosive weapons, and can't fly for S*** so I'm lucky I have a fondness for sniping or I would be screwed lol.
Well for this topic I feel all that needed to be said has been said and I wish you all the best in your future battles.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST . |
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