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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1965
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:51:00 -
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So as I read the forums, I constantly see threads claiming that we need respecs, that respecs will save the game, that respecs are harmless, that CCP is stupid to not have them, and so on. This thread is meant to, in the simplest way possible, show you why you're wrong.
1. They're harmless!
No, they're not. As you can clearly see, as soon as CCP touches something in a way that reduces effectiveness in any way, shape, or form, people cry respec. Why? People don't like to see their effectiveness reduced, so now they want to move on to something else. Users of buffed equipment, oddly enough, remain silent.
2a. It's money!
It's pay to win, which CCP is trying to avoid.
2b. It's not pay to win!
Except it is. Let's take the Caldari Logi nerf as an example. CCP is nerfing them. The Cal-Logi players now want a respec because it's not as effective anymore. The only reason these people want a respec is so that they can drop the not-so-OP equipment and dump everything into the next flavor of the month. If we have aurum respecs, we would see people with a credit card always using the FotM setups because they can afford it, while those who can't are left behind, forced to live with their decisions.
Let's look at it this way too. Everyone knows of the Core Flaylock by now. Let's pretend that the upcoming nerf to them is actually how they've been all along. Let's pretend that the new upcoming stats for this weapon have actually been in place since the flaylocks were released, and they're actually getting buffed to their current state. How many people would buy a respec so they could go stomping around the battlefield with a flaylock primary and completely obliterate those who only had enough SP saved for, say, Flaylock 2 or 3?
3. But they messed with my stuff!
Not one item in this game will be left in its current state. Every single item will eventually be reworked, for better or worse. Take a look at Eve Online. CCP is performing what they call "Tiericide" on all of their ships (reworking stats, slot counts, bonuses, etc.). Not one ship is escaping this massive iteration. Please visit the Eve Online forums and see how the Eve players are handling watching the results of their SP investments being changed. The funniest part? They continue to rebalance these ships even after they get their tiericide rework.
4. They added new stuff!
Cool. Now everyone gets to start on an even playing field, save those who planned ahead and rightfully deserve to reap the rewards of foresight.
5. It's why the game is dying!
Books could be written about why the Dust player count isn't very high, and respecs might get a one sentence honorable mention, if even that. Bugs, lack of content, little / no Eve interaction, among multitudes of other things, is why the player is remaining stagnant, not because you can't get your instant gratification.
6. Not everyone skills FotM!
I know that not everyone's intent is to become OP and boost K/D ratios out the derp. These few people with good intenions, however, make up the minority. Even if these people made up a vast majority, they'd still get completely beat down by the FotM chasers.
7. You're a CCP fanboi!
Problem? :trollface:
Will nothing sway you?!
Sure! There are times when respecs are fully warranted, such as when CCP reworked the entire skill tree into the node system we have now. The upcoming vehicle iteration may also be a candidate for a partial respec, since its goal is to completely change the role and effectiveness of every vehicle on the battlefield, and will also affect AV equipment as well (since you can't balance a role without looking at its counter). I won't be butthurt if it doesn't happen, and I won't be jumping for joy if it does.
Feel free to litter my beautiful thread with you incomprehensible word vomit. I'll mull it over and verbally berate you in the original post.
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1965
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:51:00 -
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Reserved because derp. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1967
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:05:00 -
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DRE PrEaCh wrote:OP: I completely and unequivocally disagree
Go on... |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1971
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:09:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:4. is kinda bs what about those sad heavy puppies what about the PUPPIES
Heavies, being the only class without any variants to speak of at all, could be the one exception, provided the only skill refunded is Amarr Heavy Dropsuits, not an entire respec. I will add this to the OP. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1971
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:24:00 -
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DRE PrEaCh wrote:You need to look at it this way:
The elite are elite not because they exploit the system. They are elite because they live, they breathe, they eat, and they **** this game all day long, every second, it's in their blood, it's how they are, it's what makes them elite.
You see, when you look at LIFE (this reality) the world you live in, and compare it to this game (a small model of the real world) you realize that no matter how many laws come up, solutions, etc the elite always stay on top. THEY ALWAYS FIND WAYS AROUND THINGS.
To remove respeks does nothing but **** the 90% off, why? cuz the 90% play this game casually and are more affected, the elite just sit there and laugh cuz they will find a way, they willlllllllllllllll get around things.
In the end u realize it's a never ending battle between the makers of the game and the 10%. Everyone else is just along for the ride.
I read this as "People with more SP have more because they play more".
I can't think of any other MMO that allows casuals to compete on the level of "elites" as much as this one does. Militia weaponry may not be on the same level as prototype, yet they both make the killfeed, whereas other games would let the elite stand idle while 50+ noobs spam attacks on them to miss or hit 1's.
Skillpoints don't make you elite here. I would also appreciate it if you didn't make up statistics and base arguments on them, as I feel it insults those who would read your post. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1973
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:48:00 -
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The problem with that line of thought is that the nature of the game CCP is trying to make is always going to be in flux. Content will always be added, numbers will always be tweaked. The game will never be "done", much like Eve is currently reworking all of their ships stats ten years after release.
There will always be a FotM and balance will never be achieved because new variables will always be added to the equation, making some setups work even better than before or running them into the ground. Those with cash would take advantage of these moments of imbalance, drop the gear that was negatively affected, pick up the improved gear, and romp around stomping on those that can't afford to make the quick change.
The point at which all weapons are balanced will never happen because CCP does not want it to happen. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1978
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:35:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Now you have to kill a kitten. Or a pig, since this time you were the one to make a respec thread.
As true as this is, I've stopped the slaughter of kittens about a week ago. My dearest friend Sammy Whiskers was euthanized several days after going into diabetic shock while suffering from a ruptured ear drum, frequent ear infections, earmites, and inner ear tumors. It doesn't feel right to continue to make these posts.
We miss you buddy :c |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1996
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Posted - 2013.07.28 17:57:00 -
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DRE PrEaCh wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig sniped me out of a moving llav (I was gunnin' people down using the blaster) yesterday.
I bet when you saw me in the match yesterday you were thinking "oh yeah....... u want respeks uh.... "aims"... "adjusts to moving speed"... here's ur respek "pulls trigger"
PrEaCh eats a bullet in da head
"ya still want a respek PrEaCh?"
"no thanks... I was wrong.... Pigs can fly!"
TheAmazing FlyingPig hasn't left the MCC in quite a while, and has 0 skill points invested into sniper rifles. Gunnlogi tanker / ADV Gallente Logi. |
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