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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:32:00 -
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Commander Marquess wrote:Scrambler rifles have this thing called a charged shot which causes a lot more damaged an it's single shots. That plus damage mods and proficiency can easily be killing you off
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:44:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:8213 wrote:This has only been happening with Scrambler Rifles, but I'm getting killed by them in 4 shots or less. I don't know if its headshott multiplier, or what. But nobody else will be firing at me, but Scrambler Rifles are dropping me from full shields and Armor in 1 second.
I'm assuming its some kind of lag, but its only SCRs. I watch my health meter deplete in 2 shots. This is putting the damage done to me at over 150HP per shot.
I know Scramblers are great weapons, but any explanation as to what's causing this? Its happened over 50x now, at all ranges and levels of weapon. Scramblers I wonder what that could do to your brain? Hmmm 400% dmg + 80dmg per shot if its imperial the 400% is a headshot an extra 20% to shields The rifle's headshot multiplier is 180%, not 400%. The pistol is 450% headshot. -XOXO Wtf a pistol more than rifle lmao ill take your word for it
It's true. You could OHK a fully tanked heavy, or ruin his day at the very least. Plus it's laser damage, so you can put some hurt on a shield tanker. |
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:30:00 -
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8213 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:8213 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:8213 wrote:Most of my HP is 50/50. 299Shield/277Armor. I have been doing that since Uprising to combat the Scrambler Rifle. I don't know how a weapon can be that blatantly powerful to its counterparts. I expect it to cut my shield down, but to take me from full health to dead in 4 shots, sometimes only 2 isn't making sense. Well you have low shields so it'll vaporize them in 2 shots. The next 2 shots will most likely get through your low armor as well. You need more health if you wanna survive, or take more cover. Scrambler rifles have around 80 damage. Also a TAR will most likely kill you faster. -XOXO Still doesn't add up Most Scrambler Rifle players will shoot a charged shot first, which does an insane amount of damage, and can leave a fit like yours with very little HP. Then 1 or 2 shots to kill you before it overheats. And trust me that thing overheats a lot. It's balanced, get that HP up. -XOXO What do you mean get my HP up? That's in a medium suit. 576HP is plenty in this game for a medium. I have a proto suit that has 800+HP, that's getting into HMG levels. The math still doesn't make sense; SCRs cant kill drain 576HP in less than 4 shots. If they can, there is no point to using any other weapon in this game. Just like the Vizium was during the Beta. If it can kill just about anyone in 4 "bullets" its NOT balanced in the slightest, especially if it doesn't have any counterparts except a decked out Proto Sentinel. Suit I honestly think its some kind of glitch, because no possibility of the scrambler rifle can cause 144-278HP damage per shot. Not even miniguns on any HAV can do that.
Charged shot, follow up shots and lasers eat shields. Might have a head shot mixed in too. You're not the only one this happens too. I barely have 500HP on my ADV Minmatar logi and a SCR will put me down to 50 armor. |
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:48:00 -
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Raz Warsaw wrote:Srsly are we just going down the list of weapons we have and trying to get them nerfed? Is the only weapon acceptable SMGs?
Shhhhhh |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:59:00 -
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8213 wrote:http://youtu.be/aJT-n4RD7zc
And yes, I am THAT guy...
You're kidding, please tell me you're kidding. No? Why aren't you kidding? |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.27 20:19:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:8213 wrote:http://youtu.be/aJT-n4RD7zc
And yes, I am THAT guy... Lmao you don't have the hp to survive anything..everything melts your suit and you do run ar we were right
Pretty sure that's no him. If it is, he's got nothing to be proud of. That's the guy that had a feud going with DS 10 arguing over CoD vs Dust 514. Many profanity laced rants for all... good times. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:00:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:8213 wrote:Most of my HP is 50/50. 299Shield/277Armor. I have been doing that since Uprising to combat the Scrambler Rifle. I don't know how a weapon can be that blatantly powerful to its counterparts. I expect it to cut my shield down, but to take me from full health to dead in 4 shots, sometimes only 2 isn't making sense. A charged shot is around 190-250ish for a body shot, standard rife no mods no prof. Im betting a scrambler rifle backed by skill and dmg mods could do 700+ dmg headshots. just guessing...
Seems about right. I'm curious to see how head shot damage is calculated. Not like we'll ever see the hard numbers. |
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:27:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Ok so I tested it and I'm actually pretty shocked with my findings. While wearing an Amarr Assault suit with level 3 in the skill 1 Charged shot + 8 quick shots = overheat I never really paid attention to how much I could fire afterwards, but this will defintiely be changing my game up for the better. Need to get myself in the rhythm of 1 charge shot + 7 quick shots 
Keep that up and it will get nerfed lol. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:35:00 -
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GDI, all this talk about the ScR makes me want to use it. I already have 4 alts, you guys are killing me. |
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:21:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:I die to more pistols than rifles.
And that's not a lot. Maybe twice a night.
Side note/question: When did the SMG get gagged? Those used to be really nice.
SMGs are still nasty, you just need to put points into sharpshooter. In fact, since Uprising and its broken aiming, the SMG and SP are the only things that went unchanged. Surprised I don't see either one on the kill feed. |
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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:25:00 -
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8213 wrote:
If that's the case, that's ridiculous. 1HKs from a standard issue weapon should never be in a game.
But its the vicious cycle of any game, the more you find out about the mechanics and how its supposed to work, the more you'll get upset when you discover it not working the way its supposed to be. Allowing a primary rifle to cause as much as 700 damage is another "What eere they thinking" CCP moment
I've never even touched a ScR and can assure you that it's probably impossible to do this kind of damage without practice and SP invested.
Player Skill > Weapon Effectiveness
AR takes less player skill to use and it's the most effective weapon on the field, hands down. ScR takes more player skill, but it's not as effective becasue it's harder to use. If someone can pop you with one, why not appreciate the practice and SP investment the player put in instead of crying for a nerf? FFS, this is why we can't have nice things. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:57:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Cosgar wrote:GDI, all this talk about the ScR makes me want to use it. I already have 4 alts, you guys are killing me. Honestly I'm surprised more people aren't using it, the thing is much more deadly than an assault rifle if you use it right and at the proper ranges. To be fair, it's because your fit seems to be the best suited for the SCR. I had no idea the Amarr Assault could squeeze out 18 shots without over heating. The Amarr Logi suit with the Imperial ScR I use can barely give me 7 quick shots or one charged and three quick shots. I still think the Assault ScR would be picked over the regular version as FotM though. If your suit can get that much performance out of the regular ScR, overheat must be non-existent on the Assault. Well also keep in mind the scrambler rifle is heat build up per second, not heat build up per shot (I have no clue why). I fire the standard scrambler rifle on a non-Amarr assault suit and can get 15 off before overheating, so maybe I'm just pulling the trigger faster?
Too lazy to look up the topic, but there's a supposed bug where you can bypass some heat buildup. I could be completely wrong though and it could pertain to the A ScR but I remember seeing a topic. |
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:19:00 -
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Nitrobeacon wrote:You guys have parts of it right, but if you and the enemy has the same gear and run into each other, these are the step by step rules which determines who will win:
1. Skill
2. Whether they use KB/M, DS3, Modded controller
3. If the enemy has a female character
4. Luck
3 is just a myth. Character gender doesn't affect hit box size.
(There's a joke in there somewhere and I'm intentionally avoiding it.) |
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