I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective:

TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed.

Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance.

So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening.

This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.

Happy Gaming!!!

187 is attacking no one. I can gladly show you a screen shot of our upcoming pc list.

Mind you, 187. is no longer in League of Infamy.



Our upcoming combat list says otherwise.

I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective:

TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed.

Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance.

So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening.

This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.

Happy Gaming!!!

Do you know what corp out of EoN was there??

EoN. wont attack Indys.. But we can't stop people from getting hired as mercs... Its a two way street you can always hire people as well

*cough* Outer Heaven attacks us * cough cough*

Except we all know (sorry to make a quick comeback) that Cubs has said indies aren't supposed to attack using ringers, only defenses. TCD toxicated should be repudiated for breaking the rules cubs has set. But it seems like cubs is allowing this to pass off despite his statements in the past. Perhaps Cubs isn't pleased with se7en and wishes to remove them through using an andy corp, then he can have no claim to responsibility for the attacks. Cubs sells an awful amount of land, he'd benefit if sevens and the others on that planet got wiped out and had to be resold.

DIdn't they send in those attacks while you were still in LoI? Lol 187. trying to escape any retribution for losing the war, not even really putting in their heart into the war IMHO. Just some alliance hoppers.

They have been putting attacks on us since we left LoI. We are full indy now. We will not be joining another Alliance any time soon.

Hello there,

At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.

For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.

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EoN

Fighting for a better Tomorrow

And furthermore you will be looking the other way while TCD toxicated does the dirty work of removing indy corps from PC with the help of Eon. ringers to free up land from pesky seven/new edens most wanted for them to farm/resell. rinse repeat.

one message and ill ring for free for any indie corp that's defending.

You on Dust tonight?

No am I missing anything?

one message and ill ring for free for any indie corp that's defending.

This planetary conquest. The purpose is to fight over little plots of land that generate resources. I hope we can hold onto our districts and defend them without using outside ringers but the sheer number of attacks makes it seem doubtful we will be able to do this solo. So if anyone has a grudge against TCD or 187. Contact us and maybe we can arrange a meeting with them for you

Team players rang for an for TCD when they were attacking Top Men. Attacking is not defending yet you still ring.

Well considering we have like 10 battles tomorrow...

Stop saying big corps and tell us names... If you need help with defenses get with me or someone in EoN. so we can talk

And then cake of doom is filled with 187. Ringers.

Lol, 187 a big corp. Theres about 15 of us actually active.

I dont quite see it as being a bully. No more so than anyone attacking our districts. Either way, ill fight the battles that show up. Win or lose and move to the next one.

All I know is you were once grouped up with the terrorist kujo and that cannot be excused

All I know is you were once grouped up with the terrorist kujo and that cannot be excused

I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective:

TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed.

Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance.

So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening.

This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.

Happy Gaming!!!

The statements made about 187. in this post are not true. First the comment about 187 attacking a lot of indie corp on the planet Osvetur V. We are only attacking one corporation and that corporation is New Eden's Most Wanted. Now with the idea that S.e.V.e.N being a indie corp is simply not true. The Representative from S.e.V.e.N. even says in his post that his corp is in a alliance. This means that his fact are wrong about 187. attacking many indie corporation on the planet Osvetur V false. Also the Corporation 187, is not large by any means and has never rang for Cake of Doom.

Explain this, This afternoon a person named "BobThe 844-1 CakeMan" ended up entering a squad i joined with a good player named "Vethosis". In this squad while we were chatting Cakeman brought up the idea to make a channel, and he named it "Cakes Pub". During this, he told us how he was spamming literally everyone he knew and added as a contact, whether he really knew them or not he didn't care. Shortly therafter it started filling up with people (I was one of the first to join wondering why he was making this). And over and over he kept on going on about how it was so amazing that his channel was getting so packed so fast, he must have said it at least more than 5 times in the conversation. Now keep in mind, people were asking why he even created it, and his response was simply "for pure awesomeness and cake!", just a fun, little response. After listening to enough of the blabbing on and on about nothing dust related, i turned my voice off of the channel and went into some matches with some gents.

But things completely changed in about 5 hours from then. Apparently, while i decided to just go play skirm and leave their chat, they had 87 mil donated to them from their channel. They never mention who it was, or why they were given that. And apparently right after they recieved that donation, they immediately used it to purchase a clone pack and attack Osvetur. Keep in mind all of this had to happen in around the 5 hours i wasn't in that chat, if it actually happened in that chat as they said it did. But after looking into it, i found that they are quite friendly with... 187. Many different 187 members are found commenting on their "the cake is coming" thread post. Keep in mind, 187 also has attacks planned for Osvetur, 3 of which have been reserved since yesterday. And after all of this happened, where does this "indie corp" named "Murder Cakes of Doom" attack? Osvetur. You made it way too obvious 187.

Convos here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97801&find=unread

In many ways this is a loop hole to secretly have an alliance while still somehow not formally being responsible for their actions. They gave them the money, told them what to do, and they acted. 187 is not acting as an indie corp, instead they are practically organizing an assault on an entire half of a 14 district planet, and that's not an overstatement. I'd think in many ways this violates what a lot of people consider to be an "indie corp".

87 mil isk donated, corp name, 187. Coincidence?

The statements made about 187. in this post are not true. First the comment about 187 attacking a lot of indie corp on the planet Osvetur V. We are only attacking one corporation that is indie and that corporation is New Eden's Most Wanted. Now with the idea that S.e.V.e.N being a indie corp is simply not true. The Representative from S.e.V.e.N. even says in his post that his corp is in a alliance. This means that his fact are wrong about 187. attacking many indie corporations on the planet Osvetur V false. Also the Corporation 187, is not large by any means and has never rang for Cake of Doom.

Actually... if one did one's research before or after an attack (like seriously)...

NEMW and SE7N are members of the same alliance.

The interesting question, has been that we've seemingly been classed as "indie", while being a decently-sized alliance. (A label we've clearly lost in the last few days, it seems.) However, a corp like 187. is being treated as "not-indie" even though it's no longer an alliance member.

So yeah, the indie/not-indie difference may be a bad label, it seems to be more "what certain players consider top-tier" and "what certain players don't consider top-tier".

Either way, tomorrow should be a boatload of fun.

*THEORY*

The powers that be *Eon* want to remove you and make you pay for more districts, or didn't want you farming cause they like to start **** and are power hungry. So if they hire ringers, hire ringers.

Team players rang for an for TCD when they were attacking Top Men. Attacking is not defending yet you still ring.

And then cake of doom is filled with 187. Ringers.

187?

Pfft, yeah, you wish

Well, they were the ones who gave all of the money and told you "cakez awesum1!1!1!" guys where to actually attack in PC so...

I'm sure if the attack was in any way serious, it wouldn't of been staged on a Cargo Hub.

Dont know where you're getting the idea that 187 donated the money.

The channel peaked at numbers of +100, I guess I dont need to tell you how 87mil was raised so quickly

It's not the amount or anything like that that makes it obvious, it's the location of the planet you guys somehow happened upon (unless told) and attacked a planet that 187 had 3 attacks already reserved for. Molden Heath is pretty big, & there are many different solar systems with many different planets that inhabit them, and randomly, you guys find the planet that 187 is prominently attacking? And you can't pick much else other than a Cargo Hub because all of the other districts are occupied as it is, lol.

\(O_o)/

I'm just in it for the free cake in the after party, man.

I think the whole thing is pretty cool. Top Men wanted into PC and now you are in it. And look, its full of political intrigue, conspiracy, violence, and pompous arrogant strutting. SE7N welcomes everyone into their home, and if they bring cake, well that would just be awesome!!! I'll put some coffee on and see you all around 9?

I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective:

TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed.

Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance.

So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening.

This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.

Happy Gaming!!!

I'm just going to say few things wait till tonight and see that we never rang for that cake corp, and that the guy who made up this conspiracy is pulling it out of his *** because he is basing it all on a member who joined yesterday. This is no different then adding up some birth date and finding out it one of the Illuminati numbers. Also 187. is police code for murder its not just a random number like 87 mill.

Let me clear things up about the attack on new edens most wanted. This attack was payed majority by me and some others. It was attack randomly because there was no on else to attack that was not a top tier corp. We murder cakes is a corp of ringers that are just a bunch of individuals of different corps that want in on pc and have some fun. Remember this has noting to do with ANY OTHER CORP OR ALLIANCE just to make that clear. We plan on taking this district for reasons I will tell later when we take it.

IT'S FOR THE CAKE!!!!

Agreed. Hope you guys had as much fun as we did, regardless of the results. Good several matches. Also a nice show of alliance support helping out New Eden's Most Wanted. GGs.

I think you may be the first person to tell that the 2112 is a reference to something. :)

TCD is known to hire anyone they can to win a PC match.

My corp had bought a district from TP before these "indie wars" and TCD jumped at the opportunity to take us out. We thought we had a good chance because we had played TCD in pubs before and we were able to handle them.

First match: The only TCD members actually in that PC match were the Squad Leaders and not all of them were even using Proto Gear. Their team was filled with OH and some ringers from their past alliance; Lokun Listammen(sp?). My corp was obviously stomped to oblivion.

Second Match: Played out very similarly except that TCD clearly didn't have the money to hire OH again so they brought in ringers from their alliance. Again, the TCD boys couldn't even field proto gear for it.

I'm not saying it's a -wrong- way to play, but don't blame any major corp that rolls with TCD. They're just fulfilling a contract.

Good games indeed. We all had a good time and hope you guys did as well.

We were cutting it a bit close with our timers, we had two matches 20 minutes apart. We barely made it into the match with 3 minutes to spare and loaded with only 9 players. Now THAT was a hectic match.

Yep, good games. We're learning a lot. We won't be in PC any more, but we're learning a lot.

TCD is known to hire anyone they can to win a PC match.

My corp had bought a district from TP before these "indie wars" and TCD jumped at the opportunity to take us out. We thought we had a good chance because we had played TCD in pubs before and we were able to handle them.

First match: The only TCD members actually in that PC match were the Squad Leaders and not all of them were even using Proto Gear. Their team was filled with OH and some ringers from their past alliance; Lokun Listammen(sp?). My corp was obviously stomped to oblivion.

Second Match: Played out very similarly except that TCD clearly didn't have the money to hire OH again so they brought in ringers from their alliance. Again, the TCD boys couldn't even field proto gear for it.

I'm not saying it's a -wrong- way to play, but don't blame any major corp that rolls with TCD. They're just fulfilling a contract.

Might want to talk to your CEO about that.

I think PFC is honestly the best experience in DUST right now.

As far as 187. suggesting they won't fully kick us off the planet... Well, we were told such and such forces wouldn't be employed to attack us either, and look how that turned out. So, while, if true, I commend the restraint... I won't be counting on it.

Note: Commendation to 187. for fielding their own guys every fight. It's been fun, on the few I've gotten in on.

Its far from our intention to kick anyone from pc. Which to my knowledge, we arent

Considering you attacked our last district, I think you might be mistaken. But we want the fights; keep them coming. PC is darwinism (Dust Darwinism) at its best. If you can't fight as well as the next merc, you will be removed.

Any way, I doubt you attacked our last district just to bring us cookies. I like cookies, though.

Considering you attacked our last district, I think you might be mistaken. But we want the fights; keep them coming. PC is darwinism (Dust Darwinism) at its best. If you can't fight as well as the next merc, you will be removed.

Any way, I doubt you attacked our last district just to bring us cookies. I like cookies, though.

Even though I think Se\7eN and The Generals could field an unbelievable team--and I want that to happen some day--we'll contnue to take 187 on with as many of us as possible.

That last battle was by far the closest yet. You guys are definitely improving. Look forward to our final fight tomorrow!

I would like to point out that Lokun Listamenn does not "Hire ringers" from the Alliance. We all made the decision that Planetary Conquest would be an Alliance ordeal. While only one of our corporations may be attacked, we all rise up to the attackers.

187 attacks MCOD. all theorys are now invalid.

Or maybe this is the point where we have you converge into 187 because, uh... you know... stuff.

Top Men alliance members who is in charge. who can i speak to on behalf of ur alliance. :)

Is he the leader of the alliance?