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        |  kiarbanor
 S.e.V.e.N.
 Top Men.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 14:14:00 -
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 I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective:
 
 TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed.
 
 Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance.
 
 So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on the what is actually happening.
 
 This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.
  
 Happy Gaming!!!
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        |  Trial Mix
 Villore Sec Ops
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 16:19:00 -
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 kiarbanor wrote:I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective: TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed. Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance. So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening. This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.   Happy Gaming!!! 
 *THEORY*
 
 The powers that be *Eon* want to remove you and make you pay for more districts, or didn't want you farming cause they like to start **** and are power hungry. So if they hire ringers, hire ringers.
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        |  kiarbanor
 S.e.V.e.N.
 Top Men.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 19:06:00 -
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 Interesting theory.
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        |  iTbagyou
 187.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 19:23:00 -
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 187 attacking indies, lol. I can gladly show you a screen shot of our upcoming pc list.
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        |  Soraya Xel
 New Eden's Most Wanted
 Top Men.
 
 169
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.27 19:25:00 -
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 Mind you, 187. is no longer in League of Infamy.
 
 
 iTbagyou wrote:187 is attacking no one. I can gladly show you a screen shot of our upcoming pc list.  
 Our upcoming combat list says otherwise.
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        |  iTbagyou
 187.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 19:27:00 -
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 Soraya Xel wrote:Mind you, 187. is no longer in League of Infamy. iTbagyou wrote:187 is attacking no one. I can gladly show you a screen shot of our upcoming pc list.  Our upcoming combat list says otherwise. 
 Which was cause for the edit. 187 is what you call an indie now as well.
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        |  Skyhound Solbrave
 Rough Riders..
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 19:32:00 -
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 TCD is known to hire anyone they can to win a PC match.
 
 My corp had bought a district from TP before these "indie wars" and TCD jumped at the opportunity to take us out. We thought we had a good chance because we had played TCD in pubs before and we were able to handle them.
 
 First match: The only TCD members actually in that PC match were the Squad Leaders and not all of them were even using Proto Gear. Their team was filled with OH and some ringers from their past alliance; Lokun Listammen(sp?). My corp was obviously stomped to oblivion.
 
 Second Match: Played out very similarly except that TCD clearly didn't have the money to hire OH again so they brought in ringers from their alliance. Again, the TCD boys couldn't even field proto gear for it.
 
 I'm not saying it's a -wrong- way to play, but don't blame any major corp that rolls with TCD. They're just fulfilling a contract.
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        |  Exergonic
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 259
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.27 19:35:00 -
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 kiarbanor wrote:I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective: TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed. Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance. So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening. This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.   Happy Gaming!!! 
 Do you know what corp out of EoN was there??
 
 EoN. wont attack Indys.. But we can't stop people from getting hired as mercs... Its a two way street you can always hire people as well
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        |  21yrOld Knight
 187.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 20:00:00 -
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 Exergonic wrote:kiarbanor wrote:I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective: TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed. Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance. So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening. This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.   Happy Gaming!!! Do you know what corp out of EoN was there?? EoN. wont attack Indys.. But we can't stop people from getting hired as mercs... Its a two way street you can always hire people as well 
 
 *cough* Outer Heaven attacks us directly * cough cough*
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        |  OP's Dirty Secret
 MoIon Labe.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 20:02:00 -
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 Except we all know (sorry to make a quick comeback) that Cubs has said indies aren't supposed to attack using ringers, only defenses. TCD toxicated should be repudiated for breaking the rules cubs has set. But it seems like cubs is allowing this to pass off despite his statements in the past. Perhaps Cubs isn't pleased with se7en and wishes to remove them through using an andy corp, then he can have no claim to responsibility for the attacks. Cubs sells an awful amount of land, he'd benefit if sevens and the others on that planet got wiped out and had to be resold.
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        |  OP's Dirty Secret
 MoIon Labe.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 20:04:00 -
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 21yrOld Knight wrote:Exergonic wrote:kiarbanor wrote:I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective: TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed. Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance. So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening. This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.   Happy Gaming!!! Do you know what corp out of EoN was there?? EoN. wont attack Indys.. But we can't stop people from getting hired as mercs... Its a two way street you can always hire people as well *cough* Outer Heaven attacks us * cough cough* 
 DIdn't they send in those attacks while you were still in LoI? Lol 187. trying to escape any retribution for losing the war, not even really putting in their heart into the war IMHO. Just some alliance hoppers.
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        |  Exergonic
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 259
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.27 20:06:00 -
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 OP's Dirty Secret wrote:Except we all know (sorry to make a quick comeback) that Cubs has said indies aren't supposed to attack using ringers, only defenses. TCD toxicated should be repudiated for breaking the rules cubs has set. But it seems like cubs is allowing this to pass off despite his statements in the past. Perhaps Cubs isn't pleased with se7en and wishes to remove them through using an andy corp, then he can have no claim to responsibility for the attacks. Cubs sells an awful amount of land, he'd benefit if sevens and the others on that planet got wiped out and had to be resold. 
 When you talk to people do you try to over explain yourself... You think to hard about this game.. I really hope you don't lose sleep at night
 
 As a director of TP I'm pretty sure this is new information to cubs seeing as none of us knew about it till just now
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        |  21yrOld Knight
 187.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.27 20:07:00 -
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 OP's Dirty Secret wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Exergonic wrote:kiarbanor wrote:I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective: TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed. Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance. So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening. This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.   Happy Gaming!!! Do you know what corp out of EoN was there?? EoN. wont attack Indys.. But we can't stop people from getting hired as mercs... Its a two way street you can always hire people as well *cough* Outer Heaven attacks us * cough cough* DIdn't they send in those attacks while you were still in LoI? Lol 187. trying to escape any retribution for losing the war, not even really putting in their heart into the war IMHO. Just some alliance hoppers. 
 They have been putting attacks on us since we left LoI. We are full indy now. We will not be joining another Alliance any time soon.
 
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        |  Mavado V Noriega
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 3933
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.27 21:02:00 -
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 21yrOld Knight wrote:OP's Dirty Secret wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Exergonic wrote:kiarbanor wrote:I'll give a small war report from an indie perspective: TCD Toxicated (another indie corp) attacks one of our alliance corps; we lose the first defense but win the next. Our alliance goes on the offensive but TCD hires or gets EoN ringers to fill their team. We get crushed. Now 187 is attacking a lot of the indie corps on our planet and in our alliance. So much for large corps and large alliances staying out of the indie wars. Now, to be clear before the trolls come in, Se\7eN doesn't care one bit. I thought it would be good to report on what is actually happening. This will be a ton of fun, people. It almost feels like the beginning of WWII.   Happy Gaming!!! Do you know what corp out of EoN was there?? EoN. wont attack Indys.. But we can't stop people from getting hired as mercs... Its a two way street you can always hire people as well *cough* Outer Heaven attacks us * cough cough* DIdn't they send in those attacks while you were still in LoI? Lol 187. trying to escape any retribution for losing the war, not even really putting in their heart into the war IMHO. Just some alliance hoppers. They have been putting attacks on us since we left LoI. We are full indy now. We will not be joining another Alliance any time soon. 
 tbqh u are not what i would consider an indie corp
 indie corps i would consider those small corps that gettin their feet wet in PC, when u start forming alliances as well IMO indie status is gone ur starting to move into organised territory.
 ur corp been in PC a while now and very capable of fighting and wiping out real indie small corps
 
 Official EoN. policy as to what defines an indie corp we kinda tbh winging it atm but i guess we gotta sit down and properly discuss it.
 
 PS: also when ur CEO talks **** that can also be a problem #justsayin
 also this is for future reference cuz ppl seem to think this is a loophole, just because u leave ur alliance dont mean we just forget the war u started on us thats up to our discretion if we say fck it or pursue. That being said we do have a cease fire atm against LoI....cant say for how long and ur not in LoI sooooo.................again up to ppl discretion. Personally wont atk u cuz lolPC but ur def not a small corp and you can hold their own in a fight.
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        |  Soraya Xel
 New Eden's Most Wanted
 Top Men.
 
 169
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.27 21:04:00 -
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 Okay, the 187. attacks are like this:
 
 They attacked us once while in League of Infamy, but did not show.
 Once leaving League of Infamy, they placed attacks on three of our districts.
 
 The TCD ringers are like this:
 
 They attacked us, and had a single TeamPlayers member.
 When we counterattacked, they chickened up and brought a pile of TeamPlayers and Pure Innocence. folks.
 
 I hope this clarifies any misconceptions in this thread. *tips hat*
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        |  ReGnUM Public Relations
 EoN Public Relations
 
 448
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 04:55:00 -
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 Hello there,
 
 At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.
 
 For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.
 
 
 
 EoN
 
 Fighting for a better Tomorrow
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        |  Trial Mix
 Villore Sec Ops
 Gallente Federation
 
 4
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:12:00 -
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 ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Hello there,
 At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.
 
 For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.
 
 
 
 EoN
 
 Fighting for a better Tomorrow
 
 And furthermore you will be looking the other way while TCD toxicated does the dirty work of removing indy corps from PC with the help of Eon. ringers to free up land from pesky seven/new edens most wanted for them to farm/resell. rinse repeat.
 
 
 
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        |  The legend345
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 826
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:14:00 -
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 Trial Mix wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Hello there,
 At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.
 
 For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.
 
 
 
 EoN
 
 Fighting for a better Tomorrow
 And furthermore you will be looking the other way while TCD toxicated does the dirty work of removing indy corps from PC with the help of Eon. ringers to free up land from pesky seven/new edens most wanted for them to farm/resell. rinse repeat. one message and ill ring for free for any indie corp that's defending.
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        |  ReGnUM Public Relations
 EoN Public Relations
 
 448
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:16:00 -
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 The legend345 wrote:Trial Mix wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Hello there,
 At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.
 
 For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.
 
 
 
 EoN
 
 Fighting for a better Tomorrow
 And furthermore you will be looking the other way while TCD toxicated does the dirty work of removing indy corps from PC with the help of Eon. ringers to free up land from pesky seven/new edens most wanted for them to farm/resell. rinse repeat. one message and ill ring for free for any indie corp that's defending. 
 You on Dust tonight?
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        |  The legend345
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 826
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:18:00 -
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 ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:The legend345 wrote:Trial Mix wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Hello there,
 At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.
 
 For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.
 
 
 
 EoN
 
 Fighting for a better Tomorrow
 And furthermore you will be looking the other way while TCD toxicated does the dirty work of removing indy corps from PC with the help of Eon. ringers to free up land from pesky seven/new edens most wanted for them to farm/resell. rinse repeat. one message and ill ring for free for any indie corp that's defending. You on Dust tonight? No am I missing anything?
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        |  ReGnUM Public Relations
 EoN Public Relations
 
 449
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:22:00 -
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 The legend345 wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:The legend345 wrote:Trial Mix wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Hello there,
 At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.
 
 For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.
 
 
 
 EoN
 
 Fighting for a better Tomorrow
 And furthermore you will be looking the other way while TCD toxicated does the dirty work of removing indy corps from PC with the help of Eon. ringers to free up land from pesky seven/new edens most wanted for them to farm/resell. rinse repeat. one message and ill ring for free for any indie corp that's defending. You on Dust tonight? No am I missing anything? 
 Nah just wondering if wanna face smash some pubs
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        |  Red Dot 24601-HA
 S.e.V.e.N.
 Top Men.
 
 124
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:28:00 -
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 This planetary conquest. The purpose is to fight over little plots of land that generate resources. I hope we can hold onto our districts and defend them without using outside ringers but the sheer number of attacks makes it seem doubtful we will be able to do this solo. So if anyone has a grudge against TCD or 187. Contact us and maybe we can arrange a meeting with them for you
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        |  jjoemike10 O'Conner
 The Exemplars
 Top Men.
 
 2
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:32:00 -
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 The legend345 wrote:Trial Mix wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Hello there,
 At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.
 
 For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.
 
 
 
 EoN
 
 Fighting for a better Tomorrow
 And furthermore you will be looking the other way while TCD toxicated does the dirty work of removing indy corps from PC with the help of Eon. ringers to free up land from pesky seven/new edens most wanted for them to farm/resell. rinse repeat. one message and ill ring for free for any indie corp that's defending. 
 Team players rang for an for TCD when they were attacking Top Men. Attacking is not defending yet you still ring.
 
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        |  The legend345
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 826
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:34:00 -
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 Red Dot 24601-HA wrote:This planetary conquest. The purpose is to fight over little plots of land that generate resources. I hope we can hold onto our districts and defend them without using outside ringers but the sheer number of attacks makes it seem doubtful we will be able to do this solo. So if anyone has a grudge against TCD or 187. Contact us and maybe we can arrange a meeting with them for you   meh I don't really like either of them.
 
 How about you send me a message and i'll send you my badassery :O
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        |  The legend345
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 826
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:35:00 -
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 jjoemike10 O'Conner wrote:The legend345 wrote:Trial Mix wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Hello there,
 At this time, the EoN PR department is working tirelessly to come up with a draft that will better help distinguish between a mature corp and a Indie corp.
 
 For the record 187, in the eyes of EoN, is not considered Indie status. Furthermore, we also be investigating into why 187 is attacking indie corps.
 
 
 
 EoN
 
 Fighting for a better Tomorrow
 And furthermore you will be looking the other way while TCD toxicated does the dirty work of removing indy corps from PC with the help of Eon. ringers to free up land from pesky seven/new edens most wanted for them to farm/resell. rinse repeat. one message and ill ring for free for any indie corp that's defending. Team players rang for an for TCD when they were attacking Top Men. Attacking is not defending yet you still ring. I'll make up for it
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        |  jjoemike10 O'Conner
 The Exemplars
 Top Men.
 
 2
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:37:00 -
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 Well considering we have like 10 battles tomorrow...
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        |  The legend345
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 826
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:44:00 -
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 jjoemike10 O'Conner wrote:Well considering we have like 10 battles tomorrow... deyemm lol message me i'll see what I can do.
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        |  kiarbanor
 S.e.V.e.N.
 Top Men.
 
 142
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:48:00 -
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 Yes, I have some emails out. Shat has hit the fan, and all these big corps are coming after us. Like Red Dot said, we'd be more than happy to take everyone on, but the volume of fights is a tad hectic.
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        |  Exergonic
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 263
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 05:59:00 -
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 Stop saying big corps and tell us names... If you need help with defenses get with me or someone in EoN. so we can talk
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        |  kiarbanor
 S.e.V.e.N.
 Top Men.
 
 142
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.28 06:06:00 -
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 Exergonic wrote:Stop saying big corps and tell us names... If you need help with defenses get with me or someone in EoN. so we can talk 
 
 I sent an email to Mavado that he's supposed to send around. 187 has attacked two of our districts and one of our allies. Kill-Em-Quick has decided to attack one of our allies, too.
 
 It's a lot of fighting, for sure.
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