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Joey Stone
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.27 05:24:00 -
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With lvl 5 armor upgrades and lvl 2 gallente LLAV I had -37% armor damage, then I leveled the LLAV to 3 and still had -37%. My guess is the limbus has a default -25% armor damage, armor upgrades gives -10% and, only the first lvl of gallente LLAV works giving -2%, instead of -6%. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.07.27 05:45:00 -
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Joey Stone wrote:With lvl 5 armor upgrades and lvl 2 gallente LLAV I had -37% armor damage on a bare limbus, then I leveled the LLAV to 3 and still had -37%. My guess is the limbus has a default -25% armor damage, armor upgrades gives -10% and, only the first lvl of gallente LLAV works giving -2%, instead of -6%. you know i think i got it. first the LLAV has 25% (both gallente and caldari) then 10% from skills then the LLAV skill is messing up giving another 10% w/o being based on the skills. and that would give the 37% base. but without anything from CCP this is all just a guess. can you tell me what resistance is w/ 2 passive 15% mods. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.27 08:01:00 -
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This thread is why i love dust.
numbers in a fps game....
idk about you but i know when its level up day i spend about 30-45 mins making my fittings perfect ^^ i love it ! |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.07.28 08:54:00 -
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any word there ccp? |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 22:33:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Joey Stone wrote:With lvl 5 armor upgrades and lvl 2 gallente LLAV I had -37% armor damage on a bare limbus, then I leveled the LLAV to 3 and still had -37%. My guess is the limbus has a default -25% armor damage, armor upgrades gives -10% and, only the first lvl of gallente LLAV works giving -2%, instead of -6%. you know i think i got it. first the LLAV has 25% (both gallente and caldari) then 10% from skills then the LLAV skill is messing up giving another 10% w/o being based on the skills. and that would give the 37% base. but without anything from CCP this is all just a guess. can you tell me what resistance is w/ 2 passive 15% mods. Be aware that if you fit some passive resistant modes, game see your 10% from armor/shield upgrades as a first module and add stacking penalty incorrectly. |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.29 02:46:00 -
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Joey Stone wrote:With lvl 5 armor upgrades and lvl 2 gallente LLAV I had -37% armor damage on a bare limbus, then I leveled the LLAV to 3 and still had -37%. My guess is the limbus has a default -25% armor damage, armor upgrades gives -10% and, only the first lvl of gallente LLAV works giving -2%, instead of -6%. -37% is correct. When adding damage resistance, it isn't literally adding it up. Your damage resistance is 1 - [ ( 1 - .25 ) * ( 1 - .10 ) * (1 - .06) ] = .3655.
Where .25 is base resistance, .10 is Armor Upgrades V, and .06 is LLAV III. In words, stacking resistance only applies to what's left over, so two 50% resistances won't equal 100%, but 75% (50% and then add 50% of the remaining 50% to get 75%).
Hope this helps! |
Joey Stone
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.29 04:05:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Joey Stone wrote:With lvl 5 armor upgrades and lvl 2 gallente LLAV I had -37% armor damage on a bare limbus, then I leveled the LLAV to 3 and still had -37%. My guess is the limbus has a default -25% armor damage, armor upgrades gives -10% and, only the first lvl of gallente LLAV works giving -2%, instead of -6%. -37% is correct. When adding damage resistance, it isn't literally adding it up. Your damage resistance is 1 - [ ( 1 - .25 ) * ( 1 - .10 ) * (1 - .06) ] = .3655. Where .25 is base resistance, .10 is Armor Upgrades V, and .06 is LLAV III. In words, stacking resistance only applies to what's left over, so two 50% resistances won't equal 100%, but 75% (50% and then add 50% of the remaining 50% to get 75%). Hope this helps! I don't think this is the case because when I had LLAV II, my armor resistance was still 37%. With that formula I should have had 35.2%
To answer lad war I have 53.43 with 2 x 15% armor mods.
Maybe someone with different armor upgrades and gallente LLAV lvls could share their stats. |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.07.29 12:32:00 -
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Joey Stone wrote:Harpyja wrote:Joey Stone wrote:With lvl 5 armor upgrades and lvl 2 gallente LLAV I had -37% armor damage on a bare limbus, then I leveled the LLAV to 3 and still had -37%. My guess is the limbus has a default -25% armor damage, armor upgrades gives -10% and, only the first lvl of gallente LLAV works giving -2%, instead of -6%. -37% is correct. When adding damage resistance, it isn't literally adding it up. Your damage resistance is 1 - [ ( 1 - .25 ) * ( 1 - .10 ) * (1 - .06) ] = .3655. Where .25 is base resistance, .10 is Armor Upgrades V, and .06 is LLAV III. In words, stacking resistance only applies to what's left over, so two 50% resistances won't equal 100%, but 75% (50% and then add 50% of the remaining 50% to get 75%). Hope this helps! I don't think this is the case because when I had LLAV II, my armor resistance was still 37%. With that formula I should have had 35.2% To answer lad war I have 53.43 with 2 x 15% armor mods. Maybe someone with different armor upgrades and gallente LLAV lvls could share their stats. thanks btw i'll look at mine and give an updated idea on whats going on. i think the LLAV isn't working like the skill says it should. |
Joey Stone
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:38:00 -
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Yeah I think ladwar has the whole of it, its 30% default, 10% armor upgrades and another expensive yet broken skill that I wasted my sp on. 1-((1-.3)(1-.9))=.37. So I now have about 10% of my sp allocated to skills that do nothing. |
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