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Immortal Solder Alpha
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:32:00 -
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Not sure if I am the only one who wants one, however I feel like it will enhance the game play and leave some of those "WTF" kills with an answer to how. It will definitely eliminate sniper camping. Not sure if y'all have plans for this, but can u make it sooner than later. Thanks. |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
227
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:35:00 -
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Letting you know now, this idea is despised for the most part in this realm. Hope you're wearing a flame proof suit. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2694
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:37:00 -
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Immortal Solder Alpha wrote:Not sure if I am the only one who wants one, however I feel like it will enhance the game play and leave some of those "WTF" kills with an answer to how. It will definitely eliminate sniper camping. Not sure if y'all have plans for this, but can u make it sooner than later. Thanks.
Yeah, you're not gonna find any traction at all on that one.
I myself am opposed to it, but I'll give you that reasonable response before the others come in and ragepost. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3472
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:42:00 -
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No. Very little interest in this idea and it only gives far too much Intel on the person who killed you. Also, sniper camping is a legitimate strategy. Get use to it. |
Immortal Solder Alpha
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:45:00 -
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RoundEy3 wrote:Letting you know now, this idea is despised for the most part in this realm. Hope you're wearing a flame proof suit.
Really? Why? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2694
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:45:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:No. Very little interest in this idea and it only gives far too much Intel on the person who killed you. Also, sniper camping is a legitimate strategy. Get use to it.
It's a legitimate strategy. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
400
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:54:00 -
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@OP, ponder this:
While "watching with your minds eye" your victim's last second, suddenly you will appear standing still in trance-like state to other reds. Giving them away your precious seconds to finish you off.
I would certainly opted out... |
Immortal Solder Alpha
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:56:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:@OP, ponder this:
While "watching with your minds eye" your victim's last second, suddenly you will appear standing still in trance-like state to other reds. Giving them away your precious seconds to finish you off.
I would certainly opted out...
Wow, this ***** on his Morpheus ****, lml. I needed that laugh. |
Immortal Solder Alpha
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:57:00 -
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IIght y'all , yall have fun with this I off to play a great FPS, Battlefield 3, yall have fun with yall shyt in progress. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
400
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:59:00 -
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Immortal Solder Alpha wrote:(...)Wow, this ***** on his Morpheus ****, lml. I needed that laugh. Be well...
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3473
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:02:00 -
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Immortal Solder Alpha wrote:IIght y'all , yall have fun with this I off to play a great FPS, Battlefield 3, yall have fun with yall shyt in progress.
So the quality of a game hinges on you being able to have a kill cam?? Sad. |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
132
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:05:00 -
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Immortal Solder Alpha wrote:Not sure if I am the only one who wants one, however I feel like it will enhance the game play and leave some of those "WTF" kills with an answer to how. It will definitely eliminate sniper camping. Not sure if y'all have plans for this, but can u make it sooner than later. Thanks.
we should be able to watch how we died but only after the match is done that way we know if they cheated, hacked, glitched (repeat comment from closed beta)
kinda like a recorded battle from other players perspectives would be cool to see the skill of other players |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
376
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:34:00 -
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No. Kill cams are free intel. You need to work for intel.
Also, snipers will lose their profession. Imagine two snipers on opposing teams. One kills the other, but the person who got killed now knows where the other guy is. He respawns with a vengeance and kills the other sniper. This goes back and forth throughout the game. The point of even getting proto sniper now is gone as you will lose ISK. |
Stile451
Red Star.
EoN.
155
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:03:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Also, snipers will lose their profession. Imagine two snipers on opposing teams. One kills the other, but the person who got killed now knows where the other guy is. He respawns with a vengeance and kills the other sniper. This goes back and forth throughout the game. The point of even getting proto sniper now is gone as you will lose ISK.
Your logic is flawed(I find it funny you're arguing that because snipers would actually stand a chance of losing money just like the rest of us that kill cams would be bad when currently every player stands a chance to lose quite a bit more money to snipers that they can't see unless they also use a sniper rifle).
I'm usually against kill cams but because of that I will suggest only kill cams when a sniper rifle kills any player not holding a sniper rifle. Half decent team communications would work wonders against a sniper(very rare on a pub match). This might even promote sniper movement between kills. |
Tal-Rakken
DUST University
Ivy League
35
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:21:00 -
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while yes it would force snipers to move more frequently, most half way decent snipers already know where all the good hidy holes are. if a non sniper wants to learn just hit up a friendly sniper im sure you would be able to find sommeone who can go over the key pooints in most of thge maps. once you know that you can start to actually use your brain to find them rather than have the game just show you.
This game is supposed to be hard no kill cam for free intel |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
401
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:53:00 -
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@OP, when you mention term "kill cam" i see the type used in Skyrim. That type when you see your victim's death. You'v not stated you whant BF type of kill cam. So i understand your confusion now. |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
18
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:13:00 -
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Playing devils advocate here, code the abilty to have a kill cam but make it optional OR for those who need the intel so badly....Make it some kind of suit mod in the high power slots
And yeah, im joking, screw the kill cam, why do ppl want it? so they can tbag and annoy others |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3474
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:26:00 -
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Kill cams are a lazy player's way of trying to get free intel in an environment that forces you work for the intel you got. Besides, we already got kill logs that show you who killed you, what weapon they used, how much damage you suffered, how much HP they had just before he killed you, and how far away he was when he shot you. That is more than enough information to get a general idea of the person who killed you.
Don't like working for intel?
You want everything to be given to you on a silver platter?
Don't like the fact that camping is a legitimate strategy that has been around since the golden days of multiplayer first person shooter gaming?
Then perhaps you should just stick to CoD or BF.
Remember, you are entering New Eden where the traditional rules of gaming don't apply. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2695
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:46:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Kill cams are a lazy player's way of trying to get free intel in an environment that forces you work for the intel you got. Besides, we already got kill logs that show you who killed you, what weapon they used, how much damage you suffered, how much HP they had just before he killed you, and how far away he was when he shot you. That is more than enough information to get a general idea of the person who killed you.
Don't like working for intel?
You want everything to be given to you on a silver platter?
Don't like the fact that camping is a legitimate strategy that has been around since the golden days of multiplayer first person shooter gaming?
Then perhaps you should just stick to CoD or BF.
Remember, you are entering New Eden where the traditional rules of gaming don't apply.
I mean, shots from Snipers already have trails on them. Yes, sometimes the trails don't render, but that's an issue that can be fixed. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6587
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:15:00 -
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No. I rather have a really loud sniper cannon noise and a tracer effect that mimics the railgun shot from the Arnold movie "Eraser" |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1291
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:41:00 -
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Immortal Solder Alpha wrote:Not sure if I am the only one who wants one, however I feel like it will enhance the game play and leave some of those "WTF" kills with an answer to how. It will definitely eliminate sniper camping. Not sure if y'all have plans for this, but can u make it sooner than later. Thanks.
No. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
162
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:23:00 -
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Me and a corp-mate was pinned down by a sniper after he had taken 2 other corp-mates out. The two that died used common knowledge (and a range amp) to find the target after which I placed a kill order on him to ensure my squad knew which enemy we were attacking. 2 of us suppressed him from above while the other two attacked from below. He ran for quite a while b4 we put a bullet in his back.
With good teamwork, you really don't need a kill cam.
`sigh. Another fun game of DUST  |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
246
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:40:00 -
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IWS said something smart  |
Captain Wontubulous
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
36
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:06:00 -
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Immortal Solder Alpha wrote:IIght y'all , yall have fun with this I off to play a great FPS, Battlefield 3, yall have fun with yall shyt in progress.
Calling BF3 a great FPS basically undermines the very miniscule amount of credibility this post had. Kill cams are for people who can't adapt their tactics for various situations. You're just looking for a free way to counter snipe because you aren't finding a legitimate in game mechanic to deal with them yourself. It's a cop out in the worst kind of way.
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TheEnd762
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:08:00 -
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-1 NO. As a career sniper, I've worked hard to find my perches. I don't need some crappy, hand-holding game mechanic giving away my secrets. Sometimes even I get sniped, and when I do, I enjoy the hunt. I don't just want some free revenge cheat. If someone snipes me and I CAN'T find them, I respect the crap out of them. |
Captain Wontubulous
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
36
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:15:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:-1 NO. As a career sniper, I've worked hard to find my perches. I don't need some crappy, hand-holding game mechanic giving away my secrets. Sometimes even I get sniped, and when I do, I enjoy the hunt. I don't just want some free revenge cheat. If someone snipes me and I CAN'T find them, I respect the crap out of them.
Heck yes. Respect among snipers. I love getting into a match with a good sniper. It's my best learning times. I've gotten my ass handed to me a few times by Gem from Hellstorm and I can say I've gotten better from it every single time. |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:23:00 -
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Immortal Solder Alpha wrote:Not sure if I am the only one who wants one, however I feel like it will enhance the game play and leave some of those "WTF" kills with an answer to how. It will definitely eliminate sniper camping. Not sure if y'all have plans for this, but can u make it sooner than later. Thanks.
What do you mean? sniper camping is allowed otherwise people would get revenge and snipers would ask for respecs and they would switch and snipers would be removed |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3485
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:53:00 -
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I worked hard as a ninja knifer to figure out the best hiding spots to camp objectives from as well as figuring out hidden paths that no one knows. If you're too lazy to check your six for knifers like me, you need to start using your cerebral cortex. |
Demon Buddah
The Phoenix Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.07.27 01:35:00 -
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Kill cams in shooter games is the most dumbest idea ever. All it does is just give your position away so people can kill you. That's what killed sniping in BF3 for me. Keep these abominations out of Dust. Anyone asking for this, just wants things to be easier for them. Have skill, and find these guys yourself. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
78
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Posted - 2013.07.27 01:37:00 -
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No |
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Terry Webber
Turalyon Plus
272
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Posted - 2013.07.27 04:38:00 -
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I agree with the majority. It doesn't make sense in New Eden lore anyway. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
180
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Posted - 2013.07.27 05:19:00 -
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RoundEy3 wrote:Letting you know now, this idea is despised for the most part in this realm. Hope you're wearing a flame proof suit.
Very prophetic. It really speaks volumes that our community is better at trolling than discussing things like civil human beings.
Immortal Solder Alpha, I'm not a fan of kill cams anymore than KDR. Too much information can really detract from the core game. If they are a persistent problem rather than focusing on the game mode mission just creature your own, "sniper hunt." Many of my kills while participating in Death Race 514 have been happening upon them. Besides if snipers become too effective CCP will just rebalance them again. |
Skidd McMarx
DUST University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.07.27 05:35:00 -
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nah no killcam. but maybe after you're killed the camera can zoom in on the player that killed you. how about that? good or bad idea? |
TheEnd762
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:10:00 -
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Skidd McMarx wrote:nah no killcam. but maybe after you're killed the camera can zoom in on the player that killed you. how about that? good or bad idea?
Bad for the same reason. The game tells you who and how far away they were. That's enough. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
164
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:13:00 -
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Skidd McMarx wrote:nah no killcam. but maybe after you're killed the camera can zoom in on the player that killed you. how about that? good or bad idea?
That gives more info then a killcam.
I suppose you could just have the camera turn to look at the direction you got hit from 
This would help as the killing blow doesn't have a hit marker.
My idea is as far as i'm willing to go with this, and even THAT much will probably upset me.
@People that knock CoD, BF, DUST, or any other game.
The fact is, people like those games. If 1000s of players play a game faithfully then it's not bad, it's just not for YOU! You aren't hurting anyone but yourself by playing those games if they are not for you so stop playing and find something you enjoy.
Doing this would not only make you happy but make those that enjoy the games you dislike, happy as they don't have to listen to you QQ about it.
There are just way too many games out there to be wasting your time bashing a game because it doesn't meat your tastes. SHUT UP! and move on!
`sigh. Another fun game of DUST . |
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