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jpmannu
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:53:00 -
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Stop using such OP weapon, people unable to play, unable to use ARs, but like easy killing easy winning easy life using overpowered stuff, I'm sick of these guys, you just change game and get lost.
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
42
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:55:00 -
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yes , everybody just use pistols and let me kill you with my duvolle ar |
Roldrage
DIOS X. II Top Men.
112
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:57:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:yes , everybody just use swarm launchers and let me kill you with my duvolle ar
Fixed. |
Flamesea
Shadow Company HQ
17
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:59:00 -
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Best thing that works is to counter FG ( if he/she id blasting you from higher ground..)
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Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:09:00 -
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I'd settle for them not doing more damage than a tank's railgun. Why does an infantry weapon do more damage than something that is BIGGER than the entire infantryman?(and that's just the gun! not even talking about the tank right now)
also, really wish the caldari tanks had railguns instead of missile specializations on their tanks, but that would actually make them pretty damn good. CCP doesn't want tanks to be good anymore. they're just to be hyper-expensive coffins. |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
11
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:27:00 -
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2 shotgun blasts to the face is also a very good counter to those pesky forge gunners. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
365
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:28:00 -
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There are still bigger issues at hand https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97410&find=unread |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
925
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:32:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:I'd settle for them not doing more damage than a tank's railgun. Why does an infantry weapon do more damage than something that is BIGGER than the entire infantryman?(and that's just the gun! not even talking about the tank right now)
also, really wish the caldari tanks had railguns instead of missile specializations on their tanks, but that would actually make them pretty damn good. CCP doesn't want tanks to be good anymore. they're just to be hyper-expensive coffins.
This has been discussed to death.
When a forge gun gets infinite ammo, 4x zoom, sustained fire, high mobility, and a several thousand HP platform, then we can start asking ourselves why it's more powerful than a railgun.
To the OP: get good scrub. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
272
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:41:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I'd settle for them not doing more damage than a tank's railgun. Why does an infantry weapon do more damage than something that is BIGGER than the entire infantryman?(and that's just the gun! not even talking about the tank right now)
also, really wish the caldari tanks had railguns instead of missile specializations on their tanks, but that would actually make them pretty damn good. CCP doesn't want tanks to be good anymore. they're just to be hyper-expensive coffins. This has been discussed to death. When a forge gun gets infinite ammo, 4x zoom, sustained fire, high mobility, and a several thousand HP platform, then we can start asking ourselves why it's more powerful than a railgun. To the OP: get good scrub.
I here the forge is getting reduced damage over range. And rightfully so if you ask me. The tanks won't have to worry so much about invisible forge gunner shooting you from half way across the map. |
Orion Vahid
DUST University Ivy League
88
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:51:00 -
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HTFU adapt or die whalecum to New Eden.
Yay I can do that |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
927
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:52:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I'd settle for them not doing more damage than a tank's railgun. Why does an infantry weapon do more damage than something that is BIGGER than the entire infantryman?(and that's just the gun! not even talking about the tank right now)
also, really wish the caldari tanks had railguns instead of missile specializations on their tanks, but that would actually make them pretty damn good. CCP doesn't want tanks to be good anymore. they're just to be hyper-expensive coffins. This has been discussed to death. When a forge gun gets infinite ammo, 4x zoom, sustained fire, high mobility, and a several thousand HP platform, then we can start asking ourselves why it's more powerful than a railgun. To the OP: get good scrub. I here the forge is getting reduced damage over range. And rightfully so if you ask me. The tanks won't have to worry so much about invisible forge gunner shooting you from half way across the map.
Great. The best counter to rail sniping is getting nerfed. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5484
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:58:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:I here the forge is getting reduced damage over range. And rightfully so if you ask me. The tanks won't have to worry so much about invisible forge gunner shooting you from half way across the map. Damage decay on forge guns is good for dropships.
I've wanted this change for almost a year now. It won't effect my tank hunting habits since I kamikaze my LAVs into them, then toss AVs and Ishukone their sad little roller into mush.
Now if only railguns required a tiny amount of skill to use effectively, we might just be in business. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
846
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:04:00 -
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jpmannu wrote:Stop using such OP weapon, people unable to play, unable to use ARs, but like easy killing easy winning easy life using overpowered stuff, I'm sick of these guys, you just change game and get lost.
The Forge gun is a great gun use and to have used against you. In fact to be honest some of the best players I've seen are the guys who run forge guns up close and personal.... its not OP at all when you think about it.
You are getting hit a by a tiny shard of metal mass accelerated to incredible speeds. The shock upon impact and the forces acting upon the projectile would tear and man in half.... so if its a OHKO on Infantry and a damaging weapon on tanks it makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.
Its the anti materiel rifle of Dust. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
44
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:18:00 -
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I rather take on a squad of Forge Guns than the cowardly people that use the invisibility glitch. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
237
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:19:00 -
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Something killed me = Nerf it!
DUST514 in 2014 will be one large tickle fight |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
333
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:22:00 -
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...
He is the core gamer, the bastard child of the casual and hardcore gamer. He invests the former's effort and cries when he doesn't get the latter's results.
CrotchGrab 360 wrote:You're so philosophical. please adorn me with more pearls of wisdom. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
272
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:I here the forge is getting reduced damage over range. And rightfully so if you ask me. The tanks won't have to worry so much about invisible forge gunner shooting you from half way across the map. Damage decay on forge guns is good for dropships. I've wanted this change for almost a year now. It won't effect my tank hunting habits since I kamikaze my LAVs into them, then toss AVs and Ishukone their sad little roller into mush. Now if only railguns required a tiny amount of skill to use effectively, we might just be in business.
What do you mean no skill? Rail guns are the one of very few weapons that actually have projectile flight time (and that's not counting spoolup delay). When I blap a little tiny infantry dude at 300m I consider that a feat of skill. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
44
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:28:00 -
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I am now using a heavy with Militia Forge Gun and Nova Knives. Fear me. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
846
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:29:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:I here the forge is getting reduced damage over range. And rightfully so if you ask me. The tanks won't have to worry so much about invisible forge gunner shooting you from half way across the map. Damage decay on forge guns is good for dropships. I've wanted this change for almost a year now. It won't effect my tank hunting habits since I kamikaze my LAVs into them, then toss AVs and Ishukone their sad little roller into mush. Now if only railguns required a tiny amount of skill to use effectively, we might just be in business. What do you mean no skill? Rail guns are the one of very few weapons that actually have projectile flight time (and that's not counting spoolup delay). When I blap a little tiny infantry dude at 300m I consider that a feat of skill. More so the Rail Gun doesn't even have an AOE nearly as large as it should........ even most grenades have a better AoE |
Ambiuris Zinum
EL Azteca Empire Amenaza Inminente
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:42:00 -
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Do you now how many skill points are used to be able to use a forge gun ? With less then a million I was able to unlock all assalt rifles. For a forge gun it takes weaponry level 5, heavy weapon level 5, and to unlock all forge guns level 5. In total over 3 million, over 3 million, over 3 million, over3 million, over 3 million( you got it, takes a long time to get but worth it) skill points. And we don't get a lot of kills like the assalte rifle. That is why I took the SP errand this last event (triple SP) and unlocked all the assalt rifles. |
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
273
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:47:00 -
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Ambiuris Zinum wrote:Do you now how many skill points are used to be able to use a forge gun ? With less then a million I was able to unlock all assalt rifles. For a forge gun it takes weaponry level 5, heavy weapon level 5, and to unlock all forge guns level 5. In total over 3 million, over 3 million, over 3 million, over3 million, over 3 million( you got it, takes a long time to get but worth it) skill points. And we don't get a lot of kills like the assalte rifle. That is why I took the SP errand this last event (triple SP) and unlocked all the assalt rifles.
Don't get a lot of kills? You ever heard of a player named Ender Wiggin? That dude is a beast with a forge. I think it's just operator error man. |
Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
11
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:53:00 -
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You've clearly never used a Forge gun. If you had, you'd know they're not OP. The charge time is long enough for to be killed without doing anything. Also, there is no aiming mode, making aiming rather tedious. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5484
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:56:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:What do you mean no skill? Rail guns are the one of very few weapons that actually have projectile flight time (and that's not counting spoolup delay). When I blap a little tiny infantry dude at 300m I consider that a feat of skill. You do realize forge guns have projective flight time and a small blast radius.....right?
Rail guns don't require you to reload, come with a boat load of HP, can be fired in rapid succession with a descent fit, and with a little high ground become even easier to aim than forge guns.
Also, railguns SHOULD be difficult to use vs infantry, as they absolutely **** vehicles and installations without much effort in most instances.
(to that effect, I'd like to see forge guns lose just a tiny bit of their splash radius as well) |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
397
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:58:00 -
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lololololol so someone gets killed by a FG and its OP now? B-I-T-C-H please we have to charge our weapons and at the same time take damage from your weapons, because some scrub gets OHKO by a FG, he's shouting the nerf hammer?
we can't even aim down sight and we have to lead with our shots, its not like everyone runs in a straight line. most of the FG shots miss a moving infantrymen from a distance. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
273
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:04:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:What do you mean no skill? Rail guns are the one of very few weapons that actually have projectile flight time (and that's not counting spoolup delay). When I blap a little tiny infantry dude at 300m I consider that a feat of skill. You do realize forge guns have projective flight time and a small blast radius.....right? Rail guns don't require you to reload, come with a boat load of HP, can be fired in rapid succession with a descent fit, and with a little high ground become even easier to aim than forge guns. Also, railguns SHOULD be difficult to use vs infantry, as they absolutely **** vehicles and installations without much effort in most instances. (to that effect, I'd like to see forge guns lose just a tiny bit of their splash radius as well)
I wasn't making a comparison between forge and rail. I was respounding to some one who said that it takes no skill to use, which is just plain false. Come on man read and comprehend before you just decide to attack people with false premises. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5484
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:09:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:I wasn't making a comparison between forge and rail. I was respounding to some one who said that it takes no skill to use, which is just plain false. Come on man read and comprehend before you just decide to attack people with false premises. I wasn't attacking you, I explained it above lol. Chill, I just woke up >_< |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
930
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:18:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:I am now using a heavy with Militia Forge Gun and Nova Knives. Fear me.
I fear you, because you are clearly insane. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
44
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:19:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:I am now using a heavy with Militia Forge Gun and Nova Knives. Fear me. I fear you, because you are clearly insane.
The greatest part is, a few moments ago, I killed someone with the knives. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
752
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:34:00 -
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Did you try using your own forge gun? Even at Mlt level it'll ohk any suit. You'll also find it is not an easy weapon to use.
This is coming from a tanker, BTW, so you need to htfu. You haven't been hit with a forge until you lose 7 games worth of ISk to an ishukone in 5 seconds BC u forgot to turn on your hardeners. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
44
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:40:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Did you try using your own forge gun? Even at Mlt level it'll ohk any suit. You'll also find it is not an easy weapon to use.
This is coming from a tanker, BTW, so you need to htfu. You haven't been hit with a forge until you lose 7 games worth of ISk to an ishukone in 5 seconds BC u forgot to turn on your hardeners.
Actually, the Militia Forge Gun will not always one hit infantry. I've ran across a few that I couldn't one hit with it, but this is probably because they were protobearing with MDs on hills (which is hilarious to me in itself). They don't survive the second shot though. |
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Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
281
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:43:00 -
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C'mon guys you can troll better than that.
Its nothing todo with forge gunners, its to do with you standing still like a nublet. |
Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
21
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:11:00 -
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jpmannu wrote:Stop using such OP weapon, people unable to play, unable to use ARs, but like easy killing easy winning easy life using overpowered stuff, I'm sick of these guys, you just change game and get lost.
if you can't kill a stationary heavy using a FG then I don't think you're going to have much luck killing a heavy using a Duvolle. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
152
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:26:00 -
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People, you especially OP. STOP grouping all the FGs together. Nerfing them as a group is just stupid and a very berry cherry way of **** poor balancing. If you increased the charge up time on all FGs you'd effectively destroy the breach. Reduce DMG? suddenly the only effective FG against tanks is breach because nothing else will kill them.
So people and tankers especially who feel so entitled. When you talk about FGs mention which FG your talking about.
p.s if your infantry and a breach FG kills you.... will just turn off your ps3 and quit gaming |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
152
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:27:00 -
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btw when did FGs become OP? If anything the new UI made them worse. |
Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
21
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:37:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Ambiuris Zinum wrote:Do you now how many skill points are used to be able to use a forge gun ? With less then a million I was able to unlock all assalt rifles. For a forge gun it takes weaponry level 5, heavy weapon level 5, and to unlock all forge guns level 5. In total over 3 million, over 3 million, over 3 million, over3 million, over 3 million( you got it, takes a long time to get but worth it) skill points. And we don't get a lot of kills like the assalte rifle. That is why I took the SP errand this last event (triple SP) and unlocked all the assalt rifles. Don't get a lot of kills? You ever heard of a player named Ender Wiggin? That dude is a beast with a forge. I think it's just operator error man. Ender specializes in forge gunning. most of us other heavies use the HMG more than half of the time. he's more the exception than the rule. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:51:00 -
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Kam Elto wrote:jpmannu wrote:Stop using such OP weapon, people unable to play, unable to use ARs, but like easy killing easy winning easy life using overpowered stuff, I'm sick of these guys, you just change game and get lost.
if you can't kill a stationary heavy using a FG then I don't think you're going to have much luck killing a heavy using a Duvolle. I <3 the noob heavies who sit across the street, perfectly still, tickling me with their HMG as my Ishukone charges up.....
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Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
93
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:54:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:btw when did FGs become OP? If anything the new UI made them worse.
When CCP fixed the server/client issue so our direct hits and splash damage are actually registering the hits. Guns working correctly as was intended is apparently OP.
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
273
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:28:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:btw when did FGs become OP? If anything the new UI made them worse. When CCP fixed the server/client issue so our direct hits and splash damage are actually registering the hits. Guns working correctly as was intended is apparently OP.
Wasn't OP but now is. Hum, I never thought about it like that. Perhaps the forge gun does need some looking into. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
374
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:39:00 -
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jpmannu wrote:Stop using such OP weapon, people unable to play, unable to use ARs, but like easy killing easy winning easy life using overpowered stuff, I'm sick of these guys, you just change game and get lost. Dude, What did the FG even do?
OHK you?
*Shotgun, Sniper, Flaylock, Breach ScP, Null Cannon Missile, LLAV, Tank Railgun, and Charged ScR All Headshot you*
Are we going to nerf EVERY OHK Gun?
Hell, I have a Fix to!
Reduce its damage to 10, Make its user stand still to Charge it, give it a 30 second charge, and make its effiency againist vehicles 1%!
Fixed, right?
Its a GD Heavy weapon! Its Designed to destroy Tanks! If that Heavy managed to get you with it, props to him!
Its got no zoom, basically no splash, it shakes like you got Parkinson's just charging the damn thing up, and, it takes 2.5 Secs to charge!
If the FGer is bugging you that much, get a MIL Dropship, go up there, and GEK his face off! |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
621
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:41:00 -
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CCP has stated that Forge Guns are fine vs infantry. |
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smoking the kind
RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:08:00 -
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jpmannu wrote:Stop using such OP weapon, people unable to play, unable to use ARs, but like easy killing easy winning easy life using overpowered stuff, I'm sick of these guys, you just change game and get lost.
I love my Forge Gun and it is not that easy to use on ground infantry, but if any clone is going to stop in the middle of the road with no cover and take careful aim with their AR at a heavy with a forge gun you are going to die and it is not because it is OP weapon it is as I was told that you need to adapt your strategy or die in DUST 514. |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
291
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:14:00 -
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Remove all teh foarg gunz pl0x |
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