Saw some interesting analysis on the amarr commando earlier here which lead me to compare it to the amarr assault suit here.

Turns out the amarr commando has pretty similar stats to the amarr assault, so I've got to wonder, is anyone playing amarr assault at the moment and if so, why haven't you switched to the commando?

I use Amarr Assault because I was chosen by Empress Jamyl to be a soldier of God and spread our faith to those blinded by their secular views and mindsets.

I chose Minmatar so our clan could throw of the shackles of servitude and rise up against our hated oppressors who only seek to profit of the sweat of our labour

You are linking to a report post in your second link...

But also, you have to look at the logi, that will have a sidearm, but still has pretty good base eHP and better regen.

Silence slave! Now repair my platinum gleaming armor and revive me as all Minmitar scum should.

Saw some interesting analysis on the amarr commando earlier here which lead me to compare it to the amarr assault suit here.

Turns out the amarr commando has pretty similar stats to the amarr assault, so I've got to wonder, is anyone playing amarr assault at the moment and if so, why haven't you switched to the commando?

I use Amarr Assault because I was chosen by Empress Jamyl to be a soldier of God and spread our faith to those blinded by their secular views and mindsets.

I chose Minmatar so our clan could throw of the shackles of servitude and rise up against our hated oppressors who only seek to profit of the sweat of our labour

commando is slow

Pretty sure amarr assault doesnt have the same hitbox as heavy amarr.

The commando suit is less than 0.2m/s slower than the amarr assault with no mods. As soon as you slap on extra armor that difference disappears.

I have both Advanced Amarr Assault dropsuit and Advanced Amarr Commando dropsuit, and I by far use the assault more.

Given the lack of mod slots on the commando, I don't even have armor plates on it while I do on my assault suit, yet the assault suit still feels a lot faster. The Commando's shield recharge rate is 10, which is downright awful. The hit box is smaller on an assault. The Amarr Assault's racial bonus is actually worth something. Grenades are useful.

There's a lot of reasons.

A commando with no plates cannot jump over railings. An assault with an enhanced armor plate can still jump over railings.

I can't recall the bonuses off the top of my head and am not on at the moment - it's a heat build up reduction for the assault, right? What's the bonus on the commando?

That's very interesting given the negligible speed differences

Could you do us a favour and post up your suit stats for the set ups you have on the adv ones please?

Amarr Commando gets the commando bonus of +5% light weapon reload speed per level which is nice but the racial bonus is +2% armor and shield module efficiency per level which is pointless considering it gets barely any modules.

I use the armarr medium (ADV) frame which is similar i guess. I never went any further as i dont like the sights on the new laser.

I use Amarr dropsuits because I like killing slavers with their own weapons. And because Amarr armour is tough as hell.

Stats: Commando/Assault
Shield: 275/198
Armor: 303/290
Stamina: 150/200
Stamina Recovery Rate: 17/20
Shield Recharge Rate: 10/23
Shield Recharge Delay: 7/6
Shield Depleted Recharge Delay: 10/10
Amor Repair Rate: 1.06/2
Movement Speed: 3.87/4.56
Sprint Speed: 5.42/6.38
Melee Damage: 240/110


Ok so I forgot I have the enhanced reactive plate on my Commando, but even when I was running STD Commando I couldn't jump over railings. The movement and sprint speed difference is pretty substantial and combined that with more stamina and faster stamina recover. There is also a 230% increase in shield recharge rate for the Assault.

Those are some pretty significant differences - I'd only looked at the STD suits, so I guess that's why I came to the conclusion in the OP.

The shield recharge is the most significant in my mind but the speed is also actually quite a big one too, so these are probably the things that should be focused on to bring the commando into a better place.

You're getting 90 extra ehp and a light weapon instead of a sidearm but a racial bonus that does basically nothing. I can't see many people thinking those things are worth the sacrifices of the suit even in niche roles. Still, I'd love to one day have the SP spare to make myself a big ol' AV commando with swarms and plasma cannon (if/when that gets buffed).

I speed tank in my prototype Amarr Assault Suit. If I wasn't in love with the Laser Rifle like I have been since its inception in the game, no way would I have picked this suit as my main.

Plus the Assault fit is cheaper. I'll be honest, the main reason I went into Commando was because I wanted a suit to use the laser rifle in while having something I can defend myself with if people get close, but ever since I got the KLO-1 Scrambler Pistol I've been able to defend myself pretty well with a sidearm and have been using the laser rifle on an assault suit mostly instead. I also have a fit that uses it with the swarm launcher which is a nice combo but I only have militia swarms since I'm going full Amarr. I'm sure by the time they release an Amarr AV weapon I'll get some good use out of this suit.

On my alt I fitted two plasma cannons on the commando and the reload speed definitely helped considering it's a one shot weapon, but from what I gathered the plasma cannon needs a suit with more speed to be used effectively.

Ah yes, scrambler pistols are my thing and I love them, so I'd never bother using anything else in a combat role. Your LR ScR combo could really work if there was some sort of weapon bonus to them for the suit but I have no ideas what a replacement bonus could possibly be. As far as I can see, it seems the commando is suited to being a medium-long range defensive role but that's a pretty narrow and somewhat unrewarding playstyle.