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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.07.25 13:20:00 -
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Jump link installations
What is it: A set of two quantumly entangled wormhole generator installation that allow infantry and vehicles passing through to teleport between the two, and also allows infantry to any friendly drop uplink currently deployed. Because they are a quantumly entangled set, hacking one means you hacked both. Drop uplinks are wormhole technology according to the description, so it stands to reason that a wormhole installation would be able to connect with them.
How it would work: Go into the swirling gate of light at jump link installation A, and you will see what appears to be a spawn screen. You can select between any active drop uplink on your team, and jump link installation B. Teleporting to the selected location should be instant.
Why: The tactical value of teleportation is pretty obvious. The team which controls it will be able to cover more ground, and basically have a great shortcut. It would add a new dimension of usefulness to drop uplinks. Also, it would be AAAAAAAAWWWWWWWEESSSOOOOOOOMMEEEE.
To summarize, just do it. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.07.25 22:07:00 -
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Did I mention it would be AAAAAAAAWWWWWWWEESSSOOOOOOOMMEEEE? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.07.26 01:27:00 -
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No comments? Not even negative ones about how it somehow violates the lore, or how its too game breakingly radical, or how its too boringly pointless, or "this is Dust, go back to Stargate SG1 noob"? |
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Posted - 2013.07.26 01:41:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:We have this.
It's called start -> suicide. WRONG
1) NOT instant 2) Fitting is destroyed 3) The idea I propose allows the vehicle to come out at the other jump link installation, suicide does transport vehicles. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.07.26 01:58:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:could cause problems in games such as skirmish and domination. however, i think a building with this "jump link" gate already inside it, should be hackable. However, you cant go back to the gate from the uplink. Also, the players who use uplinks should recieve very little if any points for these uplinks as aresult of people trying to farm wp.
that way, it could actually be implemented in a fair and useful way without causing too many issues.
ideas? I don't think it would cause problems in Skirmish and Domination as long as the placements are fair too both teams, and not too close to any particular objectives. I don't think special buildings are necessary, though it would be nice if they were pretty large and epic in scale like buildings. I agree about not being able to jump back to the installation from the drop uplink. I also agree that WP for drop uplink teleportation should be smaller than drop uplink spawn WP, though it isn't that much more abusable than regular drop uplinks. The only difference is suciding and spawning on a drop uplink to farm WP for a friend takes a few more seconds. |
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Posted - 2013.07.26 02:19:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:I like it but I feel like you could just camp outside it and since you're essentially respawning (without wasting a suit) you'll have that whole disorienting fade from black screen during which you would probably be killed. I'd like this to be somehow distanced from people who would try to camp it by perhaps making it elevated half a story and having a place where the jump-gate could be hacked.
Beneath the gold, the bitter steel. I was thinking Infantry could get a temporary cloak (like when they spawn) to help with campers. There's always the speed and/or protection of vehicles to help, like ramming through with a fast LAV. Distancing the exit point from the actual installation works as well, I would support that. |
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:24:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Hey, I posted a similar idea 2-3 months ago! And I got chastised for not using a drop-uplink They are but haters, and it is in their very nature to be hatin. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:50:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Here's a quick and inelegant sketch I made which might work. Maybe they could program it so that you take no fall damage out of the jump gate? Idk http://postimg.org/image/xaihp4707/A question though. What if someone is in the jumpgate and has not yet selected a point to exit when the jumpgate installation is hacked? What happens then? Do they just die? Do they get to exit? Beneath the gold, the bitter steel. I think you should die if you cross and it gets hacked before you can exit. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.03 11:24:00 -
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Still want to teleport around. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.07 03:22:00 -
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It should be a white or gold Amarr installation since drop uplinks are also Amarr. |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.07 08:18:00 -
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Also way too cool to realistically ever happen in Dust |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.07 08:29:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:it could work... I'm sure it could work, but has CCP ever added anything really unique to gameplay to suggest they would ever implement this? The only thing I can think of was spawning in an dropping out of the MCC, and this idea is much bigger than that. They still struggle to get basic gameplay right.
I have fallen into despair. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.09 02:33:00 -
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I still dream on. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.10 02:02:00 -
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I still want |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.10 06:26:00 -
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Any more thoughts? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:19:00 -
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Not even hate thoughts? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:50:00 -
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I still want |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:56:00 -
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The-Errorist wrote:It would be awesome if it came with cool animations and sounds. Yes, also a Stargate SG1 tunnel visual effect. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.24 12:19:00 -
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Still would be cool |
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Posted - 2013.08.25 14:15:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:This would be the equivalent of having the current gazillion jump bridges in EvE that we have now. It would make it a cinch to defend an area since you could just teleport back and forth between installations. Also, doesn't Halo have something like this? I remember something like this on Halo the few times I played it on various friends Microsuck Box No idea if Halo has it, I think they just have these jumping pads or something. |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.29 20:08:00 -
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I still want to teleport around |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:06:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I still want to teleport around Anyone else? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:20:00 -
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I still want |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.09.12 21:28:00 -
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It would be interesting to see 2 districts on a different planet linked this way, so 2 simultaneous battles on 2 different maps could happen. Would allow corps to attack 2 districts at once |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.09.20 14:55:00 -
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I still want cool things! |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:12:00 -
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Skihids wrote:That would be the final nail in the vehicular transport coffin. Nobody's going to take a taxi when they can teleport. Pull the dropship and replace it with a real gunship with a medium turret.
You might as well go back to the maps with objectives within 100m of each other because you are effectively removing the intervening space.
Each team will have a gate set up next to the ground spawn and any objective they control so they can get anywhere from anywhere. Nope
Not very map would have them. If the map is big enough then vehicles will still very much have a role. Would benefit vehicles as well. Respawning is functionally teleportation anyway, just with an ISK cost from destroyed fit. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:44:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Skihids wrote:That would be the final nail in the vehicular transport coffin. Nobody's going to take a taxi when they can teleport. Pull the dropship and replace it with a real gunship with a medium turret.
You might as well go back to the maps with objectives within 100m of each other because you are effectively removing the intervening space.
Each team will have a gate set up next to the ground spawn and any objective they control so they can get anywhere from anywhere. Nope Not very map would have them. If the map is big enough then vehicles will still very much have a role. Would benefit vehicles as well. Respawning is functionally teleportation anyway, just with an ISK cost from destroyed fit. Also unlike respawning, you don't get to change your fit. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.10.02 14:40:00 -
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Still want. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:07:00 -
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ghjl ghjkl wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Jump link installations What is it: A set of two quantumly entangled wormhole generator installation that allow infantry and vehicles passing through to teleport between the two, and also allows infantry to teleport to any friendly drop uplink currently deployed. Because they are a quantumly entangled set, hacking one means you hacked both. Drop uplinks are wormhole technology according to the description, so it stands to reason that a wormhole installation would be able to connect with them. How it would work: Go into the swirling gate of light at jump link installation A, and you will see what appears to be a spawn screen. You can select between any active drop uplink on your team, AND jump link installation B. Teleporting to the selected location should be instant.
Perhaps special variants of drop uplinks only will be compatible.
It should be noted that vehicles can only travel between the 2 jump link installations, and do not have the option of choosing a drop uplink as an exit. You CANNOT travel back from a uplink to a jump link installation, you can only travel from jump link to a drop uplink (or the next jump link).
To mitigate camping of the the jump link installations by enemies, teleported players should have the temporary spawn cloak, and should spawn a certain distance from the gate in a randomized direction.
Why: The tactical value of teleportation is pretty obvious. The team which controls it will be able to cover more ground, and basically have a great shortcut. It would add a new dimension of usefulness to drop uplinks. Also, it would be AWESOME. Advantages over just suicide: Respawn NOT instant, while this is
Fitting is destroyed when one dies, fittings are NOT destroyed when one uses the jump link installations.
The idea I propose allows the vehicle to come out at the other jump link installation, suicide does not transport vehicles.
One jump link installation connects the path to the next one, and jump uplinks are not accessible as spawn points. This means being alive gives you a major tactical advantage in travel since you can travel between points that you cannot just respawn at.
To summarize, do it, its awesome. sounds cool but I don't really envision it benefitting the game as a whole. If anything if links were changed to work like you suggest I think links would need to hack able to lets reds through. Uplinks could only be used as exits, you cannot go to a drop uplink and teleport somewhere else; basically just saves you the trouble of commiting suicide and spawning on the uplink. Hackable deployable equipment would be cool though. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.10.04 03:00:00 -
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Should be MASSIVE and look like this http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/f_XpT8Haohc/hqdefault.jpg |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:02:00 -
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I want this installation installed |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.11.09 18:43:00 -
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I like still
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:13:00 -
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Why can't Dust have cool things?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:30:00 -
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I want cool stuff because cool stuff is cool
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:14:00 -
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I want Dust to have truly interesting gameplay features that no other game has.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:03:00 -
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I want to teleport damnit!
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.02.16 05:18:00 -
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Anyone else want?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.02.17 21:35:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Anyone else want? Maybe not
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.02.17 21:59:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Too game breaking.
EDIT: I'll list why: Imagine a squad full of these things playing in Manus Peak (or any map but for example's sake) three guys place device below MCC and head off to each objective. Now, the whole team has access to every location. Yes, they can be destroyed, but I don't think the enemy team will have a chance to (unless running solo scout).
Maybe a module/equipment that transports you forward by 10 meters or so? I don't think you understand the idea.
I'm not asking for a player-deployed equipment, I'm asking for an installation (like CRUs, turret installations, supply depots). Devs would be in charge of where they're placed on the map, as with every single other installation. There would only be 2 per match that you can travel back and forth through, so I don't know how you would assume they grant access to every location on the map.
I recommend rereading the OP.
EDIT: The only thing players can deploy in relation to this idea is the drop uplinks for exits, which are only 1-way travel; players teleporting to a drop uplink location via jump link installation is no any worse than players spawning on that drop uplink location. It does not create any new problems.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.03.17 22:07:00 -
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I want
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:03:00 -
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There are lots of cool things I want. This is one of them.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.04.11 14:23:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Can I win the match if I open up two worms holes on top of each other? No, but you can win if you open a wormhole like this
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