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Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 47	Posted - 2013.07.25 07:48:00 - [1] - Quote SO TODAY I FELT LIKE I WANTED TO TRY OUT SNIPING BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT. I TRAINED IT TO 4 AND I WANT TO TRY MASS DRIVER NOW CAN I HAVE A RESPEC? ALSO IF A NEW WEAPON COMES OUT I WANT TO TRAIN IT TO 5 IMMEDIATELY CAN I HAVE A RESPOC THEN TOO? OH AND NOW THAT FLAYLOCK DEATH MACHINES ARE GOING 2 BE USELESS I WANT ALL MY SP BACK. THANK YOU CCP IF YOU DON'T DO THIS I HATE YOU I'M QUITTING FOR REAL THIS TIME. ------------------------------------ So no more respecs forever in my opinion. Thoughts?
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 42	Posted - 2013.07.25 07:52:00 - [2] - Quote Yes. Oh yes Quit whining all you crybabies Adopt, Adapt, Improve
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 47	Posted - 2013.07.25 07:55:00 - [3] - Quote If you have <5 million SP you are a scrub. If that SP isn't at least a little specialized yet you're a dumb scrub. If you have 5-10 million SP you should already be established (In a corp, skill plan, some proto gear, etc.) If you're not established by 10 million SP I'm not sure how you play this game, but you probably wont be for long.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 275	Posted - 2013.07.25 07:56:00 - [4] - Quote I sense a big amount of sarcasm in this post. -XOXO
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 268	Posted - 2013.07.25 07:57:00 - [5] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: SO TODAY I FELT LIKE I WANTED TO TRY OUT SNIPING BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT. I TRAINED IT TO 4 AND I WANT TO TRY MASS DRIVER NOW CAN I HAVE A RESPEC? ALSO IF A NEW WEAPON COMES OUT I WANT TO TRAIN IT TO 5 IMMEDIATELY CAN I HAVE A RESPOC THEN TOO? OH AND NOW THAT FLAYLOCK DEATH MACHINES ARE GOING 2 BE USELESS I WANT ALL MY SP BACK. THANK YOU CCP IF YOU DON'T DO THIS I HATE YOU I'M QUITTING FOR REAL THIS TIME. ------------------------------------ So no more respecs forever in my opinion. Thoughts? Spoken like a true Cronos...
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 47	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:01:00 - [6] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: Spoken like a true Cronos... Spoken like a true forum alt
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:08:00 - [7] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: SO TODAY I FELT LIKE I WANTED TO TRY OUT SNIPING BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT. I TRAINED IT TO 4 AND I WANT TO TRY MASS DRIVER NOW CAN I HAVE A RESPEC? ALSO IF A NEW WEAPON COMES OUT I WANT TO TRAIN IT TO 5 IMMEDIATELY CAN I HAVE A RESPOC THEN TOO? OH AND NOW THAT FLAYLOCK DEATH MACHINES ARE GOING 2 BE USELESS I WANT ALL MY SP BACK. THANK YOU CCP IF YOU DON'T DO THIS I HATE YOU I'M QUITTING FOR REAL THIS TIME. ------------------------------------ So no more respecs forever in my opinion. Thoughts? Hey I was a callogi, But I was a real logi. I ve played some pc for you Corp so you May know that I always had proto equipments with me. We are now asking for a respec because It wasnt our fault if the callogi was unbalanced, It was ccp's fault. And dont Say "you knew It was going to be nerfed" because i skilled It 2 hours after It was released. We are asking for a resppec Not because now the suit will Not work, But because It is Not going to work as i expected. In these months i spent all My sp according to The suit i have to make It the Most competitive, from now on i ll need other thing and i ve wasted a Lot of sp because They changed It. I have damage modifier that i wont be able to Fit, i have cardiac regulator that i wont be able to Fit, i have 2 proto equipments and a advanced and i wont be able to Fit all of them. I ve spent months of sp i things i wont use because THEY re changing My suit. Answer to this seriously pls
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 47	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:11:00 - [8] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Hey I was a callogi, But I was a real logi. I ve played some pc for you Corp so you May know that I always had proto equipments with me. We are now asking for a respec because It wasnt our fault if the callogi was unbalanced, It was ccp's fault. And dont Say "you knew It was going to be nerfed" because i skilled It 2 hours after It was released. We are asking for a resppec Not because now the suit will Not work, But because It is Not going to work as i expected. In these months i spent all My sp according to The suit i have to make It the Most competitive, from now on i ll need other thing and i ve wasted a Lot of sp because They changed It. I have damage modifier that i wont be able to Fit, i have cardiac regulator that i wont be able to Fit, i have 2 proto equipments and a advanced and i wont be able to Fit all of them. I ve spent months of sp i things i wont use because THEY re changing My suit. Answer to this seriously pls OK https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1076851#post1076851 Edit: I'm still skilling into my Caldari logi suits. I feel so bad for you guys.
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 269	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:16:00 - [9] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: Xero The Mishima wrote: Spoken like a true Cronos... Spoken like a true forum alt Keep territories in PC than you are allowed to be witty...
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:24:00 - [10] - Quote Lol your Math is wrong It was 25%the bonus. I m gonna have almost Less hp. And i need more hp than An adsault cause i m way slower. And you seem to have forgot that They also nerfed the cpu and The shield recharge delay, i ll have to Fit a completely different Kind of suit (because this is no longer the suit i specced and It is Not the suit in wich i spent all My sp anymore) waisting all the sp i ve spent Till today

Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 47	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:17:00 - [11] - Quote Oh no I did the math wrong for numbers that are no longer relevant. And now you only have 588 Shields.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 270	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:22:00 - [12] - Quote see thats what alts are for dummy
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:28:00 - [13] - Quote Are You kidding me? Did you Read what i wrote? My Point is that if They change my suit They change the modules i ll have to Fit and so i ve wasted Million of sp and months of grinding. If They d respec all My sp But Force me to spec gain in this new caldari logi i would be fine because i could spend my sp knowing what my suit needs, as It has been for u all that hasnt been nerfed. Also if You prove your Point with Math be sure It is correct
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 48	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:42:00 - [14] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Are You kidding me? Did you Read what i wrote? My Point is that if They change my suit They change the modules i ll have to Fit and so i ve wasted Million of sp and months of grinding. If They d respec all My sp But Force me to spec gain in this new caldari logi i would be fine because i could spend my sp knowing what my suit needs, as It has been for u all that hasnt been nerfed. Also if You prove your Point with Math be sure It is correct Downgrade your weapon/grenades? NO WAY that would not make me the best. Train core skills? NO WAY thats for scrubs. Learn to use a squad/vehicles to your advantage? NO WAY I'm the best I don't need none of that. pagl1u M wrote: I have damage modifier that i wont be able to Fit So you do "actual logistics" huh?
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:52:00 - [15] - Quote I ve also trained core skills But i ve also wasted a Lot of sp in modules i wont Fit. Oh i See you are one of those "Hey you are a logi you arent suppose to deal damage, you should fight with your drop uplinks smashing them to your enemies faces." Like those that proposed only sidearms logis lal
Jaqen Morghalis Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 212	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:06:00 - [16] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: I ve also trained core skills But i ve also wasted a Lot of sp in modules i wont Fit. Oh i See you are one of those "Hey you are a logi you arent suppose to deal damage, you should fight with your drop uplinks smashing them to your enemies faces." Like those that proposed only sidearms logis lal Oh, you can still do damage, just less of it, IF you want to still do Lodi-type stuff effectively. But as a "real" Logi, dealing damage should NOT your primary concern anyway, so this shouldn't be that big of a deal.
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 51	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:11:00 - [17] - Quote Yep. I am. I have Caldari Logi trained to 1, but I prefer my "Fossil" milita logistics. I usually fit a Toxin AR or Breach SMG when I play logi. I have no AR skills (literally don't even have operation trained to 1) and mediocre SMG skills. Because I don't need them; I usually do at least 1200 WP per battle, mostly from hacks, revives, armor repair and team spawns. Sometimes I get backed into a corner and have to fight so I'll get a kill or two, but I usually just farm assists from the damage-projecting assualts and heavies I like to follow around. I'm not saying that Logistics suits aren't supposed to do damage, but there's no way that the suits are designed for a damage doing role. If you're gonna fit for damage you've got to accept that there's gonna be some sacrificing other effectiveness. They've changed the Caldari logi to be a dip-in-and-out-of-cover so shields recharge type of suit, and everyone who was using it as an ambush-playing-fast-heavy-with-a-Duvolle is crying about losing their ridiculous tank. If you were using it correctly the first time the suit is actually going to change minimally. Back in chromosome the top of the leaderboards was always the best Logi's on either team. Edit: oops directed at: pagl1u M wrote: I ve also trained core skills But i ve also wasted a Lot of sp in modules i wont Fit. Oh i See you are one of those "Hey you are a logi you arent suppose to deal damage, you should fight with your drop uplinks smashing them to your enemies faces." Like those that proposed only sidearms logis lal
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 340	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:12:00 - [18] - Quote Hey when my tank was nerfed you all said sweet tears adapt or die..***** ill take your tears and you'll die
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:14:00 - [19] - Quote It seems like you re Not getting my Point, The problem is that the suit i have now is Not the one i specced in so all My plans about my sp are ****** up and i ve already wasted my sp
MinivanSurvivor L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 26	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:17:00 - [20] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: It seems like you re Not getting my Point, The problem is that the suit i have now is Not the one i specced in so all My plans about my sp are ****** up and i ve already wasted my sp Too. Bad. Fool. Find your new FoTM.

Jaqen Morghalis Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 213	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:24:00 - [21] - Quote Why not just make two different fittings with what you've got? By dropping some of the Logi equipment, you should still be able to make a reasonably effective damage-focused suit, and by dropping some damage potential, an effective "real" Logi-centric suit. Switch between them as appropriate to the situation, either spawning or at any nearby resupply unit, and you're good to go! You should still be able to perform either role with this suit, you just won't be able to do BOTH at the same time anymore.
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 52	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:28:00 - [22] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: It seems like you re Not getting my Point, The problem is that the suit i have now is Not the one i specced in so all My plans about my sp are **** up and i ve already wasted my sp Oh man I don't have anymore crying pictures for you. MinivanSurvivor wrote:** Find your new FoTM. What do you think it'll be? I'm guessing that now with less shield tanks it'll be assualt SMGs.
MinivanSurvivor L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 28	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:30:00 - [23] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: pagl1u M wrote: It seems like you re Not getting my Point, The problem is that the suit i have now is Not the one i specced in so all My plans about my sp are **** up and i ve already wasted my sp Oh man I don't have anymore crying pictures for you. MinivanSurvivor wrote:** Find your new FoTM. What do you think it'll be? I'm guessing that now with less shield tanks it'll be assualt SMGs. It better not be. I have like 3.5 mill in SMGs. I wouldn't feel special if everyone ran them as well as I do lol.
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:31:00 - [24] - Quote MinivanSurvivor wrote: pagl1u M wrote: It seems like you re Not getting my Point, The problem is that the suit i have now is Not the one i specced in so all My plans about my sp are ****** up and i ve already wasted my sp Too. Bad. Fool. Find your new FoTM. Thank You for proving my point
MinivanSurvivor L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 28	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:37:00 - [25] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: MinivanSurvivor wrote: pagl1u M wrote: It seems like you re Not getting my Point, The problem is that the suit i have now is Not the one i specced in so all My plans about my sp are ****** up and i ve already wasted my sp Too. Bad. Fool. Find your new FoTM. Thank You for proving my point Right, right. Because when you specced into the Cal Logi you said, "I'm going to use this super power for good and I'll do nothing but be a good logi!" No, what you did when you looked at that suit was say, "DAMN! 5 Highs on a SHIELD TANK with a 25% Shield Extender boost?!?!?! Guess it's time to sit behind insane amounts of shield and out assualt suit all other assualt suits with a damn logi." You can try to prove this non-existent "point" you have but you aren't fooling anyone.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 271	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:40:00 - [26] - Quote Yes people need to start learning to deal with the consequences of their actions. You spec'ed into the flavor of the month because you knew it was OP. To bad. You wanted to try that sniper rifle and didn't like it. To bad. (on that note the firing range is supposed to be coming SOONtm. You were looking at a skill and accidentally pushed the button. To bad. Consequences and repercussions.
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:19:00 - [27] - Quote You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:28:00 - [28] - Quote If your stupid enough and didn't know about militia weapons theres sniper rifles try them before you WASTE your SP on standard snipers or pro, adv unfortunately there isn't mass drivers for militia but theres forge gun and they are like snipers to me lol they are soooo OP but you have to get a direct hit
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 54	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:30:00 - [29] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op. CCP's fault, huh? That you didn't read before Training it to 5. I wrote a haiku. Really, really think here...how in the world is it CCP's fault that you trained into a suit that you KNEW was overpowered and not thinking it was obviously going to get changed (not nerfed). Tell me that you don't have a max tank fit vk.0. Please do tell what you would spec into if you were to be given your respec. Is it an Assualt suit this time (my guess, which would make a lot of sense)? Or maybe a different races logi? Because you don't mind having less tank and more equipment because you're a true logi. That's why you went Caldari the first time around.
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 54	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:31:00 - [30] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: If your stupid enough and didn't know about militia weapons theres sniper rifles try them before you WASTE your SP on standard snipers or pro, adv unfortunately there isn't mass drivers for militia but theres forge gun and they are like snipers to me lol they are soooo OP but you have to get a direct hit Oh my god nobody reads things through anymore do they? Did you want to answer the question? What do you mean what question?

Sgt Buttscratch Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 538	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:38:00 - [31] - Quote TODAY I RAPED MY CAPS LOCK AND SPACE BAR, I COULD HAVE PRESSED ENTER BUT I DECIDED TO HOLD SPACE DOWN TO OPEN UP LOTS OF ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:43:00 - [32] - Quote I would probably respec in Cal logi again But i would change the other sp i ve spent. Cause They changed the suit. Do u even Read?
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 55	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:43:00 - [33] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: TODAY I RAPED MY CAPS LOCK AND SPACE BAR, I COULD HAVE PRESSED ENTER BUT I DECIDED TO HOLD SPACE BAR DOWN TO OPEN UP LOTS OF ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES YES THIS IS HOW I NORMALLY SPEAK THIS MANNER OF POOR SPEECH AND FORMATTING IS IN NO WAY INTENDED TO BE PART OF THE IRONY I MEANT TO USE TO EMPHASIZE MY STANCE IN THE DEBATE.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 123	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:48:00 - [34] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Midas Fool wrote: SO TODAY I FELT LIKE I WANTED TO TRY OUT SNIPING BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT. I TRAINED IT TO 4 AND I WANT TO TRY MASS DRIVER NOW CAN I HAVE A RESPEC? ALSO IF A NEW WEAPON COMES OUT I WANT TO TRAIN IT TO 5 IMMEDIATELY CAN I HAVE A RESPOC THEN TOO? OH AND NOW THAT FLAYLOCK DEATH MACHINES ARE GOING 2 BE USELESS I WANT ALL MY SP BACK. THANK YOU CCP IF YOU DON'T DO THIS I HATE YOU I'M QUITTING FOR REAL THIS TIME. ------------------------------------ So no more respecs forever in my opinion. Thoughts? Hey I was a callogi, But I was a real logi. I ve played some pc for you Corp so you May know that I always had proto equipments with me. We are now asking for a respec because It wasnt our fault if the callogi was unbalanced, It was ccp's fault. And dont Say "you knew It was going to be nerfed" because i skilled It 2 hours after It was released. We are asking for a resppec Not because now the suit will Not work, But because It is Not going to work as i expected. In these months i spent all My sp according to The suit i have to make It the Most competitive, from now on i ll need other thing and i ve wasted a Lot of sp because They changed It. I have damage modifier that i wont be able to Fit, i have cardiac regulator that i wont be able to Fit, i have 2 proto equipments and a advanced and i wont be able to Fit all of them. I ve spent months of sp i things i wont use because THEY re changing My suit. Answer to this seriously pls You don't need a respec, you just need more Skillpoints. Something CCP already gives you. Because you specced Caldari Logi doesn't mean you're now stuck with it forever. You can just move on and skill something different. Nothing, absolutely nothing is stopping you. You just want a respec because you don't like the changes and want to get a new Suit you now suddenly like instantly at Proto level. But that's not how it works. If you want to play something else, then just spec into it. Who cares if it takes 2 or 3 months? That's nothing. Especially because you only need maybe 2 weeks to get a new suit to advnced level. And on top of that you already have your supportskills. Caldari Logi will be changed again. Every suit will. They'r enot final so far. What will happen then? You cry for a respec now, then the next changes come and suddenly you want your Caldari suit back and you will cry for a respec again. So really: Just stop qqing and live with the changes or spend your SP you're earning all the time anyways into a new suit.
Jaqen Morghalis Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 213	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:17:00 - [35] - Quote Be patient, make due with what you've got until they finally fix whatever technical issue is preventing them from adding the Equipment-specific bonuses to the Logi suits. Should be SoonGäó All of this is only temporary.
GTA-V FTW Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 156	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:28:00 - [36] - Quote I demand a respec!
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 341	Posted - 2013.07.25 12:29:00 - [37] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: TODAY I RAPED MY CAPS LOCK AND SPACE BAR, I COULD HAVE PRESSED ENTER BUT I DECIDED TO HOLD SPACE BAR DOWN TO OPEN UP LOTS OF ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES I will like this because of your name
Guardian Nixon Free Guard of Arrakis 0	Posted - 2013.07.28 02:39:00 - [38] - Quote MinivanSurvivor wrote: pagl1u M wrote: It seems like you re Not getting my Point, The problem is that the suit i have now is Not the one i specced in so all My plans about my sp are ****** up and i ve already wasted my sp Too. Bad. Fool. Find your new FoTM. OK so if they change what you have spent months doing and u cant use what you had origanally spec your skills to do then..... Too. Bad. Fool. grind another 4 months to maybe be where you where before..... how about to quit whining.... Let there be a respec what are you going to lose.... nothing.....so how about not being a @ss and and vote yes...
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 70	Posted - 2013.07.28 02:46:00 - [39] - Quote Guardian Nixon wrote: OK so if they change what you have spent months doing and u cant use what you had origanally spec your skills to do then..... Too. Bad. Fool. grind another 4 months to maybe be where you where before..... how about to quit whining.... Let there be a respec what are you going to lose.... nothing.....so how about not being a @ss and and vote yes... This debate isn't about what there is to lose. It's a matter of principle and CCP is going to have to decide what the smart choice is going to be. What kind of players are they going to choose to reward? I'm confident that the right decision has already been made.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 601	Posted - 2013.07.28 02:52:00 - [40] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: pagl1u M wrote: You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op. CCP's fault, huh? That you didn't read before Training it to 5. I wrote a haiku. Really, really think here...how in the world is it CCP's fault that you trained into a suit that you KNEW was overpowered and not thinking it was obviously going to get changed (not nerfed). Tell me that you don't have a max tank fit vk.0. Please do tell what you would spec into if you were to be given your respec. Is it an Assualt suit this time (my guess, which would make a lot of sense)? Or maybe a different races logi? Because you don't mind having less tank and more equipment because you're a true logi. That's why you went Caldari the first time around. okay, lets try this. Tanks are balanced one day. The next day, they are nerfed to hell. should you be respeced?

Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:02:00 - [41] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Midas Fool wrote: pagl1u M wrote: You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op. CCP's fault, huh? That you didn't read before Training it to 5. I wrote a haiku. Really, really think here...how in the world is it CCP's fault that you trained into a suit that you KNEW was overpowered and not thinking it was obviously going to get changed (not nerfed). Tell me that you don't have a max tank fit vk.0. Please do tell what you would spec into if you were to be given your respec. Is it an Assualt suit this time (my guess, which would make a lot of sense)? Or maybe a different races logi? Because you don't mind having less tank and more equipment because you're a true logi. That's why you went Caldari the first time around. okay, lets try this. Tanks are balanced one day. The next day, they are nerfed to hell. should you be respeced? No. That was easy.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 884	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:08:00 - [42] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Midas Fool wrote: pagl1u M wrote: You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op. CCP's fault, huh? That you didn't read before Training it to 5. I wrote a haiku. Really, really think here...how in the world is it CCP's fault that you trained into a suit that you KNEW was overpowered and not thinking it was obviously going to get changed (not nerfed). Tell me that you don't have a max tank fit vk.0. Please do tell what you would spec into if you were to be given your respec. Is it an Assualt suit this time (my guess, which would make a lot of sense)? Or maybe a different races logi? Because you don't mind having less tank and more equipment because you're a true logi. That's why you went Caldari the first time around. okay, lets try this. Tanks are balanced one day. The next day, they are nerfed to hell. should you be respeced? No. That was easy. I second that. Balance issues are balance issues. It's not that hard a concept.
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 250	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:12:00 - [43] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Midas Fool wrote: SO TODAY I FELT LIKE I WANTED TO TRY OUT SNIPING BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT. I TRAINED IT TO 4 AND I WANT TO TRY MASS DRIVER NOW CAN I HAVE A RESPEC? ALSO IF A NEW WEAPON COMES OUT I WANT TO TRAIN IT TO 5 IMMEDIATELY CAN I HAVE A RESPOC THEN TOO? OH AND NOW THAT FLAYLOCK DEATH MACHINES ARE GOING 2 BE USELESS I WANT ALL MY SP BACK. THANK YOU CCP IF YOU DON'T DO THIS I HATE YOU I'M QUITTING FOR REAL THIS TIME. ------------------------------------ So no more respecs forever in my opinion. Thoughts? Hey I was a callogi, But I was a real logi. I ve played some pc for you Corp so you May know that I always had proto equipments with me. We are now asking for a respec because It wasnt our fault if the callogi was unbalanced, It was ccp's fault. And dont Say "you knew It was going to be nerfed" because i skilled It 2 hours after It was released. We are asking for a resppec Not because now the suit will Not work, But because It is Not going to work as i expected. In these months i spent all My sp according to The suit i have to make It the Most competitive, from now on i ll need other thing and i ve wasted a Lot of sp because They changed It. I have damage modifier that i wont be able to Fit, ihave cardiac regulator that i wont be able to Fit, i have 2 proto equipments and a advanced and i wont be able to Fit all of them. I ve spent months of sp i things i wont use because THEY re changing My suit. Answer to this seriously pls Awwwww muffin, maybe if you do get a respec you should go scout, let me know if you want your logi back!
Jax Saurian GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 62	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:18:00 - [44] - Quote I didn't read ALL of this thread but the only respec there should be is when the heavies and scouts are released for the other races Maybe when other vehicles come out as well Other then that no respecs
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 250	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:19:00 - [45] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op. An neither did they. Question: you wouldn't happen to have a faylock or a mass drive or contact grenades or a TAR would you? BahhhhhhhaaAaaaa Your not fooling anyone
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 227	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:22:00 - [46] - Quote no respecs. ever.
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 250	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:22:00 - [47] - Quote I think heavies an scouts an armor need a buff, an honestly no respecs, we're gonna get new gear always, can't get respects everytime new $ht comes out, start running cheap an save sp like the rest of us!
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 601	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:25:00 - [48] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Midas Fool wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Midas Fool wrote: pagl1u M wrote: You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op. CCP's fault, huh? That you didn't read before Training it to 5. I wrote a haiku. Really, really think here...how in the world is it CCP's fault that you trained into a suit that you KNEW was overpowered and not thinking it was obviously going to get changed (not nerfed). Tell me that you don't have a max tank fit vk.0. Please do tell what you would spec into if you were to be given your respec. Is it an Assualt suit this time (my guess, which would make a lot of sense)? Or maybe a different races logi? Because you don't mind having less tank and more equipment because you're a true logi. That's why you went Caldari the first time around. okay, lets try this. Tanks are balanced one day. The next day, they are nerfed to hell. should you be respeced? No. That was easy. I second that. Balance issues are balance issues. It's not that hard a concept. yes, exactly. if you are in a situation that the OP described, were you tried something and got bored of it than you shouldent get a respec. However, if you are playing a class and your class is suddenly unbalanced than you should get your SP back. If CCP ruins your class without your concent, do you still want to play dust? No, you want to play something else. It would be better fix the promblem of screwing ppl over by letting them play another class, instead of giving them another reason to add to the long list of reasons not to play. you pick
Guardian Nixon Free Guard of Arrakis 1	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:28:00 - [49] - Quote Why do you Vets always say no to respecs.......O I know why.... you had time to figure out what u like and time to test everything.. then you all got a respec so bang you are top dogs....... us new people we have to test but what do u know we keep getting refused one....I think the only reason is you all are scared that if us new people get what you vets already got....you might not be top dogs any more..... I vote yes to respecs.... Over and Over again...
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 884	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:38:00 - [50] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: yes, exactly. if you are in a situation that the OP described, were you tried something and got bored of it than you shouldent get a respec. However, if you are playing a class and your class is suddenly unbalanced than you should get your SP back. If CCP ruins your class without your concent, do you still want to play dust? No, you want to play something else. It would be better fix the promblem of screwing ppl over by letting them play another class, instead of giving them another reason to add to the long list of reasons not to play. you pick Ok let me repeat this for clarity. Balance issues are balance issues. As in: Completely unrelated to the subject of respecs. If your class gets nerfed into oblivion, that nerf is the issue and it's that nerf that you should criticize with well put, logical arguments so that that nerf can be reiterated upon to ensure a viable piece of equipment. Respecs introduce a plethora of serious issues that have each been explained countless times. They should not be considered lightly to begin with and especially not to "fix" an issue that can and should be adressed directly. Don't ask for respecs. Ask for better balance. Don't ask for respecs. Ask for more content. Stop victimizing yourselves people. This is probably the only game that rewards you for having the dignity to just take a break until you can enjoy it again.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6653	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:41:00 - [51] - Quote Earn SP like everyone else.
XxWarlordxX97 187. 4279	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:43:00 - [52] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Earn SP like everyone else. I will pay you 10mil isk for 10mil sp
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 885	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:44:00 - [53] - Quote Guardian Nixon wrote: Why do you Vets always say no to respecs.......O I know why.... you had time to figure out what u like and time to test everything.. then you all got a respec so bang you are top dogs....... us new people we have to test but what do u know we keep getting refused one....I think the only reason is you all are scared that if us new people get what you vets already got....you might not be top dogs any more..... I vote yes to respecs.... Over and Over again... Read here, here, here, here, here and here for some of the actual reasons. Have run reading. I will occasionally remind you of these in case didn't get around responding to them in detail and explaining why all of these points are wrong. Edit: Oh and strawmen aren't getting you anywhere.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6654	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:47:00 - [54] - Quote Either way training up a second soldier path is part of the soldier growth, you're increasing your ability to adapt to multiple situations in the future playing each option for their strength and weaknesses. Most veterans are beginning to hit a new special spot many of respects are not aware of. That no matter how many more SP they earn that one particular favorite fit of theirs will NEVER benefit because there is nothing they can level up that adds more into it.
Midas Fool BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:51:00 - [55] - Quote Guardian Nixon wrote: Why do you Vets always say no to respecs.......O I know why.... you had time to figure out what u like and time to test everything.. then you all got a respec so bang you are top dogs....... us new people we have to test but what do u know we keep getting refused one....I think the only reason is you all are scared that if us new people get what you vets already got....you might not be top dogs any more..... I vote yes to respecs.... Over and Over again... Bro everytime I've gotten respecced I put it back where it was before. Already been wiped clean twice. Please see: Malkai Inos wrote: Read here, here, here, here, here and here for some of the actual reasons. Have run reading. I will occasionally remind you of these in case didn't get around responding to them in detail and explaining why all of these points are wrong. Edit: Oh and strawmen aren't getting you anywhere. Thank you for putting this together. I couln't find these posts in the sea of filth.


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