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Midas Fool
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:48:00 -
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SO TODAY I FELT LIKE I WANTED TO TRY OUT SNIPING BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT.
I TRAINED IT TO 4 AND I WANT TO TRY MASS DRIVER NOW CAN I HAVE A RESPEC?
ALSO IF A NEW WEAPON COMES OUT I WANT TO TRAIN IT TO 5 IMMEDIATELY CAN I HAVE A RESPOC THEN TOO?
OH AND NOW THAT FLAYLOCK DEATH MACHINES ARE GOING 2 BE USELESS I WANT ALL MY SP BACK.
THANK YOU CCP IF YOU DON'T DO THIS I HATE YOU I'M QUITTING FOR REAL THIS TIME.
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So no more respecs forever in my opinion. Thoughts? |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:55:00 -
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If you have <5 million SP you are a scrub.
If that SP isn't at least a little specialized yet you're a dumb scrub.
If you have 5-10 million SP you should already be established (In a corp, skill plan, some proto gear, etc.)
If you're not established by 10 million SP I'm not sure how you play this game, but you probably wont be for long. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 08:01:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Spoken like a true Cronos...
Spoken like a true forum alt |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 08:11:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Hey I was a callogi, But I was a real logi. I ve played some pc for you Corp so you May know that I always had proto equipments with me. We are now asking for a respec because It wasnt our fault if the callogi was unbalanced, It was ccp's fault. And dont Say "you knew It was going to be nerfed" because i skilled It 2 hours after It was released. We are asking for a resppec Not because now the suit will Not work, But because It is Not going to work as i expected. In these months i spent all My sp according to The suit i have to make It the Most competitive, from now on i ll need other thing and i ve wasted a Lot of sp because They changed It. I have damage modifier that i wont be able to Fit, i have cardiac regulator that i wont be able to Fit, i have 2 proto equipments and a advanced and i wont be able to Fit all of them. I ve spent months of sp i things i wont use because THEY re changing My suit. Answer to this seriously pls
OK
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1076851#post1076851
Edit: I'm still skilling into my Caldari logi suits. I feel so bad for you guys. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:17:00 -
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Oh no I did the math wrong for numbers that are no longer relevant.
And now you only have 588 Shields. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:42:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Are You kidding me? Did you Read what i wrote? My Point is that if They change my suit They change the modules i ll have to Fit and so i ve wasted Million of sp and months of grinding. If They d respec all My sp But Force me to spec gain in this new caldari logi i would be fine because i could spend my sp knowing what my suit needs, as It has been for u all that hasnt been nerfed. Also if You prove your Point with Math be sure It is correct
Downgrade your weapon/grenades? NO WAY that would not make me the best.
Train core skills? NO WAY thats for scrubs.
Learn to use a squad/vehicles to your advantage? NO WAY I'm the best I don't need none of that.
So you do "actual logistics" huh? |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 10:11:00 -
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Yep. I am.
I have Caldari Logi trained to 1, but I prefer my "Fossil" milita logistics. I usually fit a Toxin AR or Breach SMG when I play logi.
I have no AR skills (literally don't even have operation trained to 1) and mediocre SMG skills. Because I don't need them;
I usually do at least 1200 WP per battle, mostly from hacks, revives, armor repair and team spawns. Sometimes I get backed into a corner and have to fight so I'll get a kill or two, but I usually just farm assists from the damage-projecting assualts and heavies I like to follow around.
I'm not saying that Logistics suits aren't supposed to do damage, but there's no way that the suits are designed for a damage doing role. If you're gonna fit for damage you've got to accept that there's gonna be some sacrificing other effectiveness.
They've changed the Caldari logi to be a dip-in-and-out-of-cover so shields recharge type of suit, and everyone who was using it as an ambush-playing-fast-heavy-with-a-Duvolle is crying about losing their ridiculous tank. If you were using it correctly the first time the suit is actually going to change minimally. Back in chromosome the top of the leaderboards was always the best Logi's on either team.
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pagl1u M wrote:I ve also trained core skills But i ve also wasted a Lot of sp in modules i wont Fit. Oh i See you are one of those "Hey you are a logi you arent suppose to deal damage, you should fight with your drop uplinks smashing them to your enemies faces." Like those that proposed only sidearms logis lal |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 10:28:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:It seems like you re Not getting my Point, The problem is that the suit i have now is Not the one i specced in so all My plans about my sp are ****** up and i ve already wasted my sp
Oh man I don't have anymore crying pictures for you.
MinivanSurvivor wrote:Find your new FoTM.
What do you think it'll be? I'm guessing that now with less shield tanks it'll be assualt SMGs. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:30:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op.
CCP's fault, huh? That you didn't read before Training it to 5.
I wrote a haiku.
Really, really think here...how in the world is it CCP's fault that you trained into a suit that you KNEW was overpowered and not thinking it was obviously going to get changed (not nerfed). Tell me that you don't have a max tank fit vk.0.
Please do tell what you would spec into if you were to be given your respec. Is it an Assualt suit this time (my guess, which would make a lot of sense)? Or maybe a different races logi? Because you don't mind having less tank and more equipment because you're a true logi. That's why you went Caldari the first time around. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:31:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:If your stupid enough and didn't know about militia weapons theres sniper rifles try them before you WASTE your SP on standard snipers or pro, adv unfortunately there isn't mass drivers for militia but theres forge gun and they are like snipers to me lol they are soooo OP but you have to get a direct hit
Oh my god nobody reads things through anymore do they?
Did you want to answer the question? What do you mean what question? |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:43:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:TODAY I RAPED MY CAPS LOCK AND SPACE BAR, I COULD HAVE PRESSED ENTER BUT I DECIDED TO HOLD
SPACE BAR DOWN TO OPEN UP LOTS OF ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES
YES THIS IS HOW I NORMALLY SPEAK THIS MANNER OF POOR SPEECH AND FORMATTING IS IN NO WAY INTENDED TO BE PART OF THE IRONY I MEANT TO USE TO EMPHASIZE MY STANCE IN THE DEBATE. |
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:46:00 -
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Guardian Nixon wrote: OK so if they change what you have spent months doing and u cant use what you had origanally spec your skills to do then.....
Too. Bad. Fool.
grind another 4 months to maybe be where you where before..... how about to quit whining.... Let there be a respec what are you going to lose.... nothing.....so how about not being a @ss and and vote yes...
This debate isn't about what there is to lose. It's a matter of principle and CCP is going to have to decide what the smart choice is going to be. What kind of players are they going to choose to reward? I'm confident that the right decision has already been made. |
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:02:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Midas Fool wrote:pagl1u M wrote:You speak about consequences decisions But this wasnt my fault. It was ccp fault. The Day i specced into It i didnt know It was op. CCP's fault, huh? That you didn't read before Training it to 5. I wrote a haiku. Really, really think here...how in the world is it CCP's fault that you trained into a suit that you KNEW was overpowered and not thinking it was obviously going to get changed (not nerfed). Tell me that you don't have a max tank fit vk.0. Please do tell what you would spec into if you were to be given your respec. Is it an Assualt suit this time (my guess, which would make a lot of sense)? Or maybe a different races logi? Because you don't mind having less tank and more equipment because you're a true logi. That's why you went Caldari the first time around. okay, lets try this. Tanks are balanced one day. The next day, they are nerfed to hell. should you be respeced?
No. That was easy. |
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:51:00 -
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Guardian Nixon wrote:Why do you Vets always say no to respecs.......O I know why.... you had time to figure out what u like and time to test everything.. then you all got a respec so bang you are top dogs....... us new people we have to test but what do u know we keep getting refused one....I think the only reason is you all are scared that if us new people get what you vets already got....you might not be top dogs any more.....
I vote yes to respecs.... Over and Over again... Bro everytime I've gotten respecced I put it back where it was before. Already been wiped clean twice.
Please see:
Malkai Inos wrote:Read here, here, here, here, here and here for some of the actual reasons.
Have run reading. I will occasionally remind you of these in case didn't get around responding to them in detail and explaining why all of these points are wrong.
Edit: Oh and strawmen aren't getting you anywhere.
Thank you for putting this together. I couln't find these posts in the sea of filth. |
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