Fighting over CRU's would be intense, probably more so than objectives themselves.

Do we really want installations on the map that are more important than the objectives? It would be a little odd, and i think potentially difficult for a new player to figure out. If a skirmish match stopped being about the points and became a clone race i think it sort of defeats the purpose of that game mode.

Make people pay for their MCCs. 120,000,000 isk. If the battle starts going south, a director can use the withdraw option to leave the battle, saving the mcc but at a cost of x% of the remaining clones.

They should just face the same penalty as getting an MCC blown up, a loss of 100 clones (or 150).

Credit to Jason Pearson for first sparking this idea.


What if installations like CRU and Supply Depots meant more to the battle than just free points for someone with a vehicle or AV weapon + nanohive?


What if CRU's actually held a certain amount of clones, which changed ownership to the other team when hacked, or were destroyed entirely from the clone count if the CRU was destroyed?


What if supply depot ownership affected loot drop for a team at the end of the match? (Or contained supplies used to spawn?


What if, using the existing "drop in' mechanic for installations, Eve players could then drop these installations instead of an orbital strike when a team earns orbtial support?



What do these changes accomplish;

For CRU's - This would create an instant reason to hack a CRU, rather than farm kills off people spawning at it. For PC battles, the transfer of clone ownership within a match speaks for itself. The ability to steal clones and 'clone out' your opponent easier as a result would have serious impact on the flow of battles. Fighting over CRU's would be intense, probably more so than objectives themselves.

Being able to drop additional clones via orbital support as instant reinforcements provides an obvious boon as well.


For supply depots, this gets a bit tricky. I'm sure someone could think of a better reason, although the mindset already is to generally hack & camp near these, so the incentive to holding them is mostly there already


Now the big one : The Eve Connection - This could effectively be a much more meaningful link than orbital strikes alone - Because this involves the economic aspect of creating an installation to then sell/provide to eve players, who then drop them back on dust players or re-sell them. Coupled with the intended changes to how orbital support is carried out, something like this twould have massive potential and would be the first step towards "Creating a fight that can go on nonstop for days, if they can keep their logistics steady" That CCP envisioned at fanfest.


Thoughts?

Still awesome

I though bumps not from the OP are not allowed...

I like it, I'd also like to be able to "steal" CRUs with a large air vehicle.

Credit to Jason Pearson for first sparking this idea.


What if installations like CRU and Supply Depots meant more to the battle than just free points for someone with a vehicle or AV weapon + nanohive?


What if CRU's actually held a certain amount of clones, which changed ownership to the other team when hacked, or were destroyed entirely from the clone count if the CRU was destroyed?


What if supply depot ownership affected loot drop for a team at the end of the match? (Or contained supplies used to spawn?


What if, using the existing "drop in' mechanic for installations, Eve players could then drop these installations instead of an orbital strike when a team earns orbtial support?



What do these changes accomplish;

For CRU's - This would create an instant reason to hack a CRU, rather than farm kills off people spawning at it. For PC battles, the transfer of clone ownership within a match speaks for itself. The ability to steal clones and 'clone out' your opponent easier as a result would have serious impact on the flow of battles. Fighting over CRU's would be intense, probably more so than objectives themselves.

Being able to drop additional clones via orbital support as instant reinforcements provides an obvious boon as well.


For supply depots, this gets a bit tricky. I'm sure someone could think of a better reason, although the mindset already is to generally hack & camp near these, so the incentive to holding them is mostly there already


Now the big one : The Eve Connection - This could effectively be a much more meaningful link than orbital strikes alone - Because this involves the economic aspect of creating an installation to then sell/provide to eve players, who then drop them back on dust players or re-sell them. Coupled with the intended changes to how orbital support is carried out, something like this twould have massive potential and would be the first step towards "Creating a fight that can go on nonstop for days, if they can keep their logistics steady" That CCP envisioned at fanfest.


Thoughts?

I very much like the CRU idea, I made a thread on it before, but I can't seem to find it.
I'm neutral on the supply depot thing.
I think installations should be in the hands of squad leaders who buy the installations themselves.

I would rather see EVE players send down stuff like orbital scans to reveal enemy locations, and other stuff like that.
EDIT: Also TacNet jamming, prevents the enemy team from being able to see health bars, minimap, overview map, temporarily.

What about adding a scan installation that could be hacked, EVE pilots could drop those as well. Having a decent scan profile, and radius would make for a strategic drop.

I like the ideas coming out here. It would be nice if the EVE drops had different WP values for calling them in, while keeping orbital strike as an option. One concern I have though is redline drops.... dropping assets behind ones own redline could just prove to be a mining resource. In a new game mode it would be easy to have no redline overlap to eliminate the problem, but then spawning become a real gamble.

I very much like the CRU idea, I made a thread on it before, but I can't seem to find it.
I'm neutral on the supply depot thing.
I think installations should be in the hands of squad leaders who buy the installations themselves.

I would rather see EVE players send down stuff like orbital scans to reveal enemy locations, and other stuff like that.
EDIT: Also TacNet jamming, prevents the enemy team from being able to see health bars, minimap, overview map, temporarily.