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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:47:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:I've had 550 shields taken from one swipe of nova knives
balanced because it's melee, or OP because it can one shot a lot of suits? you be the judge.
A max skilled Nova Knife on any suit can OHK (assuming both charged swipes hit) /almost/ every suit in the game, with a single 'attack'.
A minmatar scout -can- OHK any suit in the game.
They buffed the knives unncessarily in the second uprising 1.0... the damage listed in the 'show info box' used to show the damge per swipe when charged. Now it shows the damage per swipe -without- being charged. This means they can do the same damage as before, but much faster. Which is somewhat fine. That's a reasonable buff.
However, add on the tidbit where charging them makes them do roughly double that listed damage per swipe.... That starts to get a bit crazy. Then factor in the skill bonus from knives, and possibly sidearm damage mods. Then you've got the suit bonus from minny scout, if you fancy ugly rusty suits :P
Something having a difficult/niche use is no excuse for it being -too awesome-. There's a fine line between rewarding weapons that highly rely on player skill and making those weapons too powerful. CCP crossed it here, in my humble opinion. The current uncharged /old charged damage is fine-as it. But It'd honestly rather they revert to the old method and make the uncharged swipes do less damage. These things should mostly be swung when not charged as a follow-up to a charged attack if it doesn't quite kill someone. They shouldn't be a OHK-opener you can use without charging and still have such a great effect. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.25 06:24:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:
Show me your numbers. It should be that easy to prove your point. Base damage of the proto nova is 200. GO!
Keep in mind, That damage in the 'show info' box is inflicted twice (assuming you hit, which is usually the case). Unless I'm mistaken, they do slightly more than double. It's difficult to test given that everything tends to die when you hit with both swipes, and I've never gotten a concrete answer from CCP (Other than "Charging does more") what the actual charge damage is. I'm pretty positive that it's at least double though, or you wouln't be able to OHK everything with a 'single' attack :P
Even with Advanced tier knives, the damage gets pretty crazy. It's only at the standard level that knives are useless, because their damage and charge speed is just blatantly unattractive. |
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