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Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:58:00 -
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shin suki wrote:So allow me to respond.
Proto suits have additional slots, combined with high skill and protogear, versus miltia outfits with nearly no skills, what would be the effective difference in players fielding an assault fitting? This of course is not to mention more speed, faster reloads, and so on. I mean really, how many advantages does one need and how laughably large must they be?
As for skills.... I guess by reading the instruction manual to mario you became an expert in the mechanics of gameplay, or by reading about the materia system in the tutorials of Final fantasy 7 you knew of the most efficient combinations of the materia, or etc etc.... Lets not play ignorance here. Familiarity with game mechanics produces efficiency in gameplay decisions, and this familiarity is gained from hands on experience. By allowing the beta players this experience, they immediately gain an advantage, and rightfully so. The full Respec AFTER the full release of the game just allowed a magnification of disparities in populations of old and new players.
Oh an to the EON neckbeard, really you find no problem with the enormous gap in equipment from newberry to protobear? Really? Do you really honestly believe that your so awesome as to easily destroy 20-1 new players? Remind me how many competitive FPS have you won tourneys in again?
CCP wake up, neckbeards like EON and SVER here are the reason your game is going to die. Rather than have a competitive FPS they will cry and cry anytime their unreasonable advantages are taken away. You can either die with the neckbeards, or make your game accessible to the people who will make you a success. Your choice.
I lol'd at your severe lack of knowledge and understanding of how this game works. I advise you to go back to the tutorials and actually read them (or listen, both might be a hard concept for you to grasp) Or at least look at the damn stats of the **** you are talking about before randomly spouting nonsense on the forums about the comparison between mlt and proto suits. |
Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:07:00 -
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shin suki wrote:Well you have heard it here CCP, you must bend over backwards to support the playerbase you have now, you know the ones killing your game. The pub-stompers, the "man up" neckbeards, the proto-bears. You owe them continual and unrelenting advantages for the life of your F2P game because they were here first. Nevermind the people (newberries) who are way more important to the success of your game, these guys must be catered to because you owe them.
Duran Lex: I am sorry was that a rebuttal? I think you meant it as one but I see nothing of substance there.....
Did it look like a rebuttal? Maybe you should pick up a dictionary....clearly you still have no idea wtf you are talking about, inside AND outside of the game.
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Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:40:00 -
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shin suki wrote:Another Heavy SOB: "Cry moar." "entitled whiny little *****." "Your ignorance knows no bounds does it? " "..Cry Moar noob." and then you say this "Oh, we're hurling insults now?
Just goes to show how strong your argument really is. "
Really....really... i mean really? C'mon, either you have a split personality or you just tried to take some moral high-ground after repeatedly "hurling insults" yourself.
Duran Lex: Ok, disprove me. I know I can empty damn near a full clip directly into a proto assualt suit and he still lives,and I know 4-5 shots from a duovall and I die, and I know this giant disparity makes contest of skill impossible. Oh and BS on FF7, no one was an expert on materia after the initial tutorial, no one. To say otherwise is to be dishonest.
RydogV: Shame does not lie with you, but CCP for setting a presidence of allowing FULL respecs to one segment of the community and not another. Yes changes were made, but in those changes an opportunity for people whom had previously chosen poorly to correct those choices was also given. No such opportunity exists for subsequent players.
I can't believe I am even arguing with you guys who were allowed the respec on this. It is analogous to wanting some wine, and the guy who had some before you saying "no, I needed it and you don't so no." You guys are a perfect example of the "**** you, got mine" mindset.
I use a STD suit, with STD mods, and ADV HMG/Forge. You are simply complaining about your lack of skill at playing the game and lack of thought decision making on what to spec into.
Everyone was an expert on materia after the tutorial. it told you EXACTLY how to socket materia for any desired effect you wanted. You know what i did after learning how to use materia? A simple process that any person with marginal intelligence would do in ANY game they play : Theory craft. i simply started combining materia based on the knowledge given to me, and tested it in battles to see the result.
It's really not hard to play games. Maybe you should pay more attention to what you are doing in game, and learn.
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Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
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Posted - 2013.07.24 13:37:00 -
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shin suki wrote:So because you knew how to junction material to a weapon at the end of a tutorial you were an expert, you knew of maxing out xp on it to make duplicates, how all future companion materia would be used, how certain effect materia worked with some and not others, how some weapons modified xp growth.... I call B.S., you were introduced to it and needed time to mess around with it to figure it out.
anyway to go ahead and provide the figures for why newbs do not stand even a bit of a chance against protobears, and why player skill amounts to nothign here:
ok so militia assault rifle, 34 hp dmg*`4.5% (2 heatsinks) *48 rnd clip = 1704 HP dmg.... no skills apply to militia gear, and newberries have no skills really so we will leav it at that, Also your shot grouping is far less accurate due to nothing helping out rifle kick or accuracy
duovolle 37.4 HP dmg * 1.15 for proficiency *1.15 (2 protosinks)*60rndclip*1.25 for ammo skill=3709 HP dmg... wow thats totally balanced. with a 25% tighter bullet grouping and 25% less rifle kick even further improving grouping,
Lets do suits too ok?
militia suit 180 hp shield + 180 hp armor and 3 total slots that can be used for tanking totaling 380 vs. amarr assualt proto 180 hp shield *1.25 (skill) =225 hp + 180 hp armor *1.25(armor amount skill)*1.10 (armor resistance skill)=247 HP altogether totaling 472 with 5 possible tanking slots.
lets just assume some armor plates in everyones low slots since they are amarr to amke things easy (not nessicarily how you would want to go)
2 armor plates for militia boy makes 460 HP 2 armor plates for protobear makes 750HP with 2 plates and a dmg mod or 889 HP with 3 plates.
This is of course neglecting the 25% faster shield recharge time from the suit or the even faster amount of shield recharge gained per second due to having more shields total.....
This doesn't take into account numerous other advantages. Yeah I think that gap might be a bit much.
No, because i knew how to junction materia, i was able to have no issues junctioning materia to find out what i wanted to use. You are failing to see its "USER ERROR" thats making you upset at this game.
And why the hell are you using MLT suits? You do realise you have the SP to spec into any STD suit in the game IMMEDIATELY after creating your character. You play one game, you now have the ISK to buy the skillbook. Problem solved.
If you are having a problem against other players, try upgrading your gear. But i suppose you play RPG's and try to end game at lvl 1.
I've never felt the need to say this, but HTFU and upgrade your suit, boy. |
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