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shin suki wrote:

PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei wrote:

shin suki wrote:

PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei wrote:

I can't speak for others but I was straight lied to in the skill descriptions of the skills that I skilled into because of whoevers job it was to change the skill descriptions of skills when they made the new skill tree was too lazy to make a line by line changelog and double check his/her work against it to make sure that he/she had changed the descriptors for every skill that had its skill completely changed from what it was pre-uprising.

That's why I wanted and ultimately got a respect.

If CCP makes as big a mistake as they did with the deployment of the new skill tree with something else of that nature in the future, I would expect the same public outcry as there was when uprising came out and with I would assume the same result.

Doesn't change the fact that you were allowed a full respec.... meaning that aside from those feew skills, any possible mistakes were within your ability to wipe clean.

I guess you missed the text that I bolded so you can better see it this time.

I guess you also missed the part where I acknowledged that and also pointed out the rest of your wasted sp that you may or may not have blown in useless skills that were not significantly altered were also reimbursed, allow you to use your intimate game knowledge to place your skill points exactly how you wanted them giving you an insurmountable advantage forever.

Next time you try to be condescending try to actually READ the replies you receive.

Another Heavy SOB wrote:

Cry moar.

The "it's not fair they have better gear and more SP " Excuse is a great way to make yourself feel better about getting stomped eh?

The thing few noobs realize is that the gap is certainly not insurmountable nor as great as you think. At around 10mill into an assault build there's not much more to improve, even then it's small gains for very high SP costs. Also only so much SP can be fielded by one player, you could have 100mill SP and only really utilize 15 maybe 20mill on one suit.

Combine that with the fact that a fully boosted toon can earn up to 2.5mill a month and you're really not that far behind.

Granted changes need to be made to help the new player experience, I propose staying in academy until 1-1.5 Mill SP, while being awarded 500k to a Mill upon graduation. Player's would also be allowed 2x SP earned and Cap until 5mill. At which point they would be offered a optional ONE TIME ONLY Respec of skills, the player would have until 5.05 mill SP to decide to respec or not.

I agree with your generalized assessment and your solutions, but it probably won't happen.

You have to admit the gap between militia gear and proto gear is a bit extreme.... you go from like 360 effective HP to over 600 HP, and you more than double the damage output. That's not a match skill alone can overcome in most circumstances.


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Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 445	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:08:00 - [1] - Quote Cry moar. The "it's not fair they have better gear and more SP " Excuse is a great way to make yourself feel better about getting stomped eh? The thing few noobs realize is that the gap is certainly not insurmountable nor as great as you think. At around 10mill into an assault build there's not much more to improve, even then it's small gains for very high SP costs. Also only so much SP can be fielded by one player, you could have 100mill SP and only really utilize 15 maybe 20mill on one suit. Combine that with the fact that a fully boosted toon can earn up to 2.5mill a month and you're really not that far behind. Granted changes need to be made to help the new player experience, I propose staying in academy until 1-1.5 Mill SP, while being awarded 500k to a Mill upon graduation. Player's would also be allowed 2x SP earned and Cap until 5mill. At which point they would be offered a optional ONE TIME ONLY Respec of skills, the player would have until 5.05 mill SP to decide to respec or not. Edit: While I understand your plight you present your situation like an entitled whiny little *****.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 445	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:30:00 - [2] - Quote shin suki wrote: PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei wrote: shin suki wrote: PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei wrote: I can't speak for others but I was straight lied to in the skill descriptions of the skills that I skilled into because of whoevers job it was to change the skill descriptions of skills when they made the new skill tree was too lazy to make a line by line changelog and double check his/her work against it to make sure that he/she had changed the descriptors for every skill that had its skill completely changed from what it was pre-uprising. That's why I wanted and ultimately got a respect. If CCP makes as big a mistake as they did with the deployment of the new skill tree with something else of that nature in the future, I would expect the same public outcry as there was when uprising came out and with I would assume the same result. Doesn't change the fact that you were allowed a full respec.... meaning that aside from those feew skills, any possible mistakes were within your ability to wipe clean. I guess you missed the text that I bolded so you can better see it this time. I guess you also missed the part where I acknowledged that and also pointed out the rest of your wasted sp that you may or may not have blown in useless skills that were not significantly altered were also reimbursed, allow you to use your intimate game knowledge to place your skill points exactly how you wanted them giving you an insurmountable advantage forever. Next time you try to be condescending try to actually READ the replies you receive. Another Heavy SOB wrote: Cry moar. The "it's not fair they have better gear and more SP " Excuse is a great way to make yourself feel better about getting stomped eh? The thing few noobs realize is that the gap is certainly not insurmountable nor as great as you think. At around 10mill into an assault build there's not much more to improve, even then it's small gains for very high SP costs. Also only so much SP can be fielded by one player, you could have 100mill SP and only really utilize 15 maybe 20mill on one suit. Combine that with the fact that a fully boosted toon can earn up to 2.5mill a month and you're really not that far behind. Granted changes need to be made to help the new player experience, I propose staying in academy until 1-1.5 Mill SP, while being awarded 500k to a Mill upon graduation. Player's would also be allowed 2x SP earned and Cap until 5mill. At which point they would be offered a optional ONE TIME ONLY Respec of skills, the player would have until 5.05 mill SP to decide to respec or not. I agree with your generalized assessment and your solutions, but it probably won't happen. You have to admit the gap between militia gear and proto gear is a bit extreme.... you go from like 360 effective HP to over 600 HP, and you more than double the damage output. That's not a match skill alone can overcome in most circumstances. No, the gap isn't that great....Actually base HP wise they're exactly the same. It's the modules that make the difference. And at around 3 mill you could build a good 500 EHP ADV suit, with ADV light weapon. More than double the damage output?!? What the **** are you smoking? So 32 per shot to 37 is somehow magically double or it's just magically doubled on proto suits right? As far as your assessment that our familiarity with skills and their uses due to time in game somehow gives veterans an extreme advantage is an insult to your own intelligence. The information is there for all to read, it is not encrypted in ancient code that only open beta vets can decode. With minimal reading comprehension your understanding of a skills effects should be on par with those that started in January.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 445	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:38:00 - [3] - Quote Your ignorance knows no bounds does it? 500K Dropsuits? How'd you add that up? Hiding behind their gear? So when you have grinded for 2 month's to unlock proto X you'll never use proto X because you wouldn't want to hide behind your gear would you. I feel this needs to be said atleast once more...Cry Moar noob.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 446	Posted - 2013.07.24 12:06:00 - [4] - Quote Oh, we're hurling insults now? Just goes to show how strong your argument really is. Don't address my observations that your quoted differences in gear are greatly exaggerated. Nor my question about how you will use your high end gear when the time comes. As for your comparison to manuals for other game's, when it comes to familiarity with skills and fitting. We call that theory crafting and if you yourself do not have the intellect to do so yourself there is the "Rookie training grounds " here on the forum to help you get pointed in the right direction, point is just like all other games the information known by vets is available to you should you have the initiative to look for it.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 450	Posted - 2013.07.24 12:37:00 - [5] - Quote Lol you're right, I was insulting. But in my defense I am by nature an *******, and your exaggerations and false statements are a sign of stupidity or atleast ignorance. By the way...A full clip huh? So assuming you're using a basic AR that means you ran into someone with 2000+ EHP on their proto suit? Maybe your just a bad shot and 50-75% of that clip missed?