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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:40:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Well I'm a cal logi player.
I'm not such a tryhard that I run a single nanohive and thats it. I've filled my equipment slots in every single fitting.
My standard CB or "most competitive" fit for those occational hard pub games has been;
- Proto Uplink - Proto Medkit - Proto nanohive
4 extenders and 1 recharger
Duvolle AR Core nades
Proto CPU uppgrade Proto PG uppgrade (Edit: not sure if proto or enh.) Proto green stamina thingy Basic armor plate
This is a combat/support hybrid fitting. Not really a match against a well specced proto assault suit, but not so bad that I can't stay in and fight and do some damage.
Keeping everything the same is not a viable option. I feel that I sort of have to fit at least one shield regulator, just to get the benefit of the new racial bonus, so my armor plate is thereby lost. And together with the racial bonus I lose 65+ 66 shields equals - 131 HP, taking my suit down from 752 HP down to roughly 615 HP. This change I don't have a problem with, although I'm not especially fond of the new racial bonus...
Its the loss of CPU that worries me. I haven't run the numbers, but I highly doubt I can keep the same fitting as mentioned above.
So where do I reduce the tier of my modules to find a fitting that works? I don't really see using 2 CPU upgrades as an alternative.
Do I put on a GEK? - No, I'm not gonna come with a vanilla gek vs assaults running Duvolles with 2 damage mods... Do I get a smaller nade? - No, as a logi I don't have a sidearm and I'll keep the weapons I have... Will I reduce my tank or stamina? No way, not in a million years!
So what is left? Yes its that proto equipment.... I might have to remove it or reduce it down a tier or two.
So in effect; the patch that is supposed to make me more of a Logi and less of an assault player, will perhaps have the exact opposite effect, not a smart move IMO.
+1 I too have said IF things gotta leave my fitting so I can fit it all the first will be my support equipment. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:47:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:KingBabar wrote:Well I'm a cal logi player.
I'm not such a tryhard that I run a single nanohive and thats it. I've filled my equipment slots in every single fitting.
My standard CB or "most competitive" fit for those occational hard pub games has been;
- Proto Uplink - Proto Medkit - Proto nanohive
4 extenders and 1 recharger
Duvolle AR Core nades
Proto CPU uppgrade Proto PG uppgrade (Edit: not sure if proto or enh.) Proto green stamina thingy Basic armor plate
This is a combat/support hybrid fitting. Not really a match against a well specced proto assault suit, but not so bad that I can't stay in and fight and do some damage.
Keeping everything the same is not a viable option. I feel that I sort of have to fit at least one shield regulator, just to get the benefit of the new racial bonus, so my armor plate is thereby lost. And together with the racial bonus I lose 65+ 66 shields equals - 131 HP, taking my suit down from 752 HP down to roughly 615 HP. This change I don't have a problem with, although I'm not especially fond of the new racial bonus...
Its the loss of CPU that worries me. I haven't run the numbers, but I highly doubt I can keep the same fitting as mentioned above.
So where do I reduce the tier of my modules to find a fitting that works? I don't really see using 2 CPU upgrades as an alternative.
Do I put on a GEK? - No, I'm not gonna come with a vanilla gek vs assaults running Duvolles with 2 damage mods... Do I get a smaller nade? - No, as a logi I don't have a sidearm and I'll keep the weapons I have... Will I reduce my tank or stamina? No way, not in a million years!
So what is left? Yes its that proto equipment.... I might have to remove it or reduce it down a tier or two.
So in effect; the patch that is supposed to make me more of a Logi and less of an assault player, will perhaps have the exact opposite effect, not a smart move IMO. +1 I too have said IF things gotta leave my fitting so I can fit it all the first will be my support equipment. Then obviously your number one concern is killing reds, not supporting your team.
So by killing reds I am not supporting the team? Your logic is flawed... |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:59:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:KingBabar wrote:Well I'm a cal logi player.
I'm not such a tryhard that I run a single nanohive and thats it. I've filled my equipment slots in every single fitting.
My standard CB or "most competitive" fit for those occational hard pub games has been;
- Proto Uplink - Proto Medkit - Proto nanohive
4 extenders and 1 recharger
Duvolle AR Core nades
Proto CPU uppgrade Proto PG uppgrade (Edit: not sure if proto or enh.) Proto green stamina thingy Basic armor plate
This is a combat/support hybrid fitting. Not really a match against a well specced proto assault suit, but not so bad that I can't stay in and fight and do some damage.
Keeping everything the same is not a viable option. I feel that I sort of have to fit at least one shield regulator, just to get the benefit of the new racial bonus, so my armor plate is thereby lost. And together with the racial bonus I lose 65+ 66 shields equals - 131 HP, taking my suit down from 752 HP down to roughly 615 HP. This change I don't have a problem with, although I'm not especially fond of the new racial bonus...
Its the loss of CPU that worries me. I haven't run the numbers, but I highly doubt I can keep the same fitting as mentioned above.
So where do I reduce the tier of my modules to find a fitting that works? I don't really see using 2 CPU upgrades as an alternative.
Do I put on a GEK? - No, I'm not gonna come with a vanilla gek vs assaults running Duvolles with 2 damage mods... Do I get a smaller nade? - No, as a logi I don't have a sidearm and I'll keep the weapons I have... Will I reduce my tank or stamina? No way, not in a million years!
So what is left? Yes its that proto equipment.... I might have to remove it or reduce it down a tier or two.
So in effect; the patch that is supposed to make me more of a Logi and less of an assault player, will perhaps have the exact opposite effect, not a smart move IMO. +1 I too have said IF things gotta leave my fitting so I can fit it all the first will be my support equipment. Then obviously your number one concern is killing reds, not supporting your team. So by killing reds I am not supporting the team? Your logic is flawed... If that's what you want to do then go assault not logistics, your logic in suit choice is flawed.
So Logistics can't be used for killing? You're a joke...
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2013.07.24 09:09:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Gauder Berwyck wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Make logi suits like logi ships in EvE, force logi players to actually be logi by removing weapon slots. Give logi suits dedicated slots for rep-tools with appropriate bonuses towards suits/vehicles/installations and reward them properly with WP.
My alt would happily lose the weapon in favour of pure logi plus bonuses and rewards. Seriously? No..... I mean..... seriously?This is such a stupid statements on so many levels I find it hard to take it seriously... Ask ANY medic in ANY army today if they wanna run into a combat zone without a pistol and other weapons backing them up! CCP: We need to be able to give -1 to posts.... Yes seriously, this is New Eden not 21st century Earth! Clearly you have no clue how logistics works in New Eden. Logi keeps the frontline alive, they are not supposed to be dealing damage. The current dust logi is a bastardisation of assault and logi and yes I'm guilty of capitalising on that. A logi with an insane tank and support from multiple logis would give a new dimension to dust, its only people like you that want the best of all worlds.
If this is true what do they plan on doing? more than 50% logi are Assault/Logi. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2013.07.24 09:18:00 -
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I truly believe they want this game to fail. They will lose out on another 15% population.. some of us will fight it where others will just quit. They don't PC so pubs is all they have now they will be made weaker in even those lol. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:59:00 -
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CCP, learn to make a console game, thanks. |
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