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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:56:00 -
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Make logi suits like logi ships in EvE, force logi players to actually be logi by removing weapon slots. Give logi suits dedicated slots for rep-tools with appropriate bonuses towards suits/vehicles/installations and reward them properly with WP.
My alt would happily lose the weapon in favour of pure logi plus bonuses and rewards. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
70
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Posted - 2013.07.24 09:06:00 -
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Gauder Berwyck wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Make logi suits like logi ships in EvE, force logi players to actually be logi by removing weapon slots. Give logi suits dedicated slots for rep-tools with appropriate bonuses towards suits/vehicles/installations and reward them properly with WP.
My alt would happily lose the weapon in favour of pure logi plus bonuses and rewards. Seriously? No..... I mean..... seriously?This is such a stupid statements on so many levels I find it hard to take it seriously... Ask ANY medic in ANY army today if they wanna run into a combat zone without a pistol and other weapons backing them up! CCP: We need to be able to give -1 to posts....
Yes seriously, this is New Eden not 21st century Earth! Clearly you have no clue how logistics works in New Eden. Logi keeps the frontline alive, they are not supposed to be dealing damage. The current dust logi is a bastardisation of assault and logi and yes I'm guilty of capitalising on that.
A logi with an insane tank and support from multiple logis would give a new dimension to dust, its only people like you that want the best of all worlds. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
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Posted - 2013.07.24 09:35:00 -
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Gauder Berwyck wrote:You're not making your case any better...
This is an FPS. First Person SHOOTER! Why would I wanna run around in a suit that has no weapon slots?
And the New Eden argument is really getting old. This IS NOT a space point-and-click game!!! The games may share the same backdrop but that is it.
Maybe not you who wants to be an assault guy in a logi suit, but I'm sure there are others that take logistics seriously and would sacrifice offence in favour of defence.
Shame, because I'll give you the same tired argument too, give dust 10 years and we shall see how much EvE influences Dust. It stands to reason that EvE has to influence Dust in its mechanics, logistics being one of them.
Gauder Berwyck wrote:It's the Eve-tards that have ****** this game up anyway. Already having the ears of CCP, they lobbied for their views and got the wrong bits of Eve into Dust.
Yeah right, as a 5 year vet of EvE I can tell you now, all EvE players are worried about is how much Dust will mess up the economy. Sure there are a few that could worry about how planets will affect their game play, but thats about it.
Gauder Berwyck wrote:
This is a game where you CANNOT warp out of danger in the middle of the match, unless you quit the game.
This is a game where you CANNOT carry drones or other modules that can shoot back at the enemy.
LOL, you have zero clue about EvE logi ships, if you did you would know that logi ships can't carry weapons if all the high slots are filled with rep mods.
Gauder Berwyck wrote:
A logistics ship in Eve can still do their bit, they are not toothless. Yet you want the Logi in Dust to run around completely defenseless running against all logic.
Give the logi an insane tank. Sure it will be abused by some who will run explosives or something, but having a true logi is still appealing.
Gauder Berwyck wrote:This is a SHOOTER not a space point-and-click game!!!
Yeah, because we want another CoD, BF or other run of the mill FPS... |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:22:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:your comparision is flawed thus all your arguments are null and void. logi ships in eve are durable and remote reps have huge range on them. a group of remote repping logis can sit back, do their job and repair themself each other when required. a repping and reviving logi in dust doing his job is constantly exposing himself to enemy fire and most of the time out of range of other logis at the front line. additionally remote repping isnt as strong in dust as it is in eve.
Your missing the point, I would'nt expect Dust logis to mirror EvE logis, just what their role is. It's not feasible to mirror exactly, for obvious reasons, but some clear distinction between being a logi and an assault should be welcomed. Clearly it won't happen, cuz people like the guy below are scared of losing the pwn suit and want the "one size fits all" approach to their game play.
Gauder Berwyck wrote:
Oh, sorry, let me clarify... When I said Eve-tards I didn't mean those who stay in Eve and don't care about Dust. I mean those who come into Dust and think they are entitled to being heard in matters of a shooter simply because they've played Eve. Sorry, but to me that sounds like the argument that you should run a music shop, because you know how to whistle!
There is nothing stopping you from running as a GOOD logi right now! When the patch comes there will STILL be nothing stopping you from playing as the logi you want, but there WILL be issues stopping me from playing logi the way I want.
Just because you seem to prefer playing as the sheep at the slaughterhouse, you therefore want me to become the same toothless sheep...
Sorry carebear, but it's idiots like YOU who come from Eve to Dust that is ruining this game... thinking that using tried and tested methods in a shooter is gonna make it like CoD and BF. Giving Dust working game mechanics and dropsuits that have weapons on does NOT make it into CoD, sorry dude... But it WOULD make it into a game that might actually be more fun than frustrating to play.
So please, go back to space... or hell, play the super-logi you seem to love and stand there to soak bullets. I know I'll be wanting to shoot back.
Yeah sure I've come from EvE, a game I love and company that has my respect for making Dust. The fact I've been playing Dust since Beta gives me the right to comment, not my 5 years of EvE. Clearly you don't like my suggestion, seems you're the only one in the thread scared of what I'm proposing.
Carebear, yeah right, did you hear that as a buzz word from some EvE player? You probably need to research the context before labelling people. As for the rest of the statement, you are single minded in how you perceive Dust should be played and can't see other options for what logis could be in the future.
To placate you, and maybe make you feel warm an fuzzy again, drop the light weapon and just have a sidearm slot, you can then Core Flaylock (even after the nerf) to your hearts content. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:30:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:A well reasoned response
Thank you, while I agree with your response on some level, and as I sated in another response, I wouldn't expect a carbon copy of what EvE does to translate to what Dust does. I still believe there is a scope for those that want to be "pure logi". All RPG style games have a healer class that is weak at offence, but is awesome at defence/support, something similar is all I'm suggesting.
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