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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:44:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:KingBabar wrote:Well I'm a cal logi player.
I'm not such a tryhard that I run a single nanohive and thats it. I've filled my equipment slots in every single fitting.
My standard CB or "most competitive" fit for those occational hard pub games has been;
- Proto Uplink
- Proto Medkit
- Proto nanohive
4 extenders and 1 recharger
Duvolle AR
Core nades
Proto CPU uppgrade
Proto PG uppgrade (Edit: not sure if proto or enh.)
Proto green stamina thingy
Basic armor plate
This is a combat/support hybrid fitting. Not really a match against a well specced proto assault suit, but not so bad that I can't stay in and fight and do some damage.
Keeping everything the same is not a viable option. I feel that I sort of have to fit at least one shield regulator, just to get the benefit of the new racial bonus, so my armor plate is thereby lost. And together with the racial bonus I lose 65+ 66 shields equals - 131 HP, taking my suit down from 752 HP down to roughly 615 HP. This change I don't have a problem with, although I'm not especially fond of the new racial bonus...
Its the loss of CPU that worries me. I haven't run the numbers, but I highly doubt I can keep the same fitting as mentioned above.
So where do I reduce the tier of my modules to find a fitting that works? I don't really see using 2 CPU upgrades as an alternative.
Do I put on a GEK? - No, I'm not gonna come with a vanilla gek vs assaults running Duvolles with 2 damage mods...
Do I get a smaller nade? - No, as a logi I don't have a sidearm and I'll keep the weapons I have...
Will I reduce my tank or stamina? No way, not in a million years!
So what is left? Yes its that proto equipment.... I might have to remove it or reduce it down a tier or two.
So in effect; the patch that is supposed to make me more of a Logi and less of an assault player, will perhaps have the exact opposite effect, not a smart move IMO. +1 I too have said IF things gotta leave my fitting so I can fit it all the first will be my support equipment.
Then obviously your number one concern is killing reds, not supporting your team.
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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:54:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:KingBabar wrote:Well I'm a cal logi player.
I'm not such a tryhard that I run a single nanohive and thats it. I've filled my equipment slots in every single fitting.
My standard CB or "most competitive" fit for those occational hard pub games has been;
- Proto Uplink
- Proto Medkit
- Proto nanohive
4 extenders and 1 recharger
Duvolle AR
Core nades
Proto CPU uppgrade
Proto PG uppgrade (Edit: not sure if proto or enh.)
Proto green stamina thingy
Basic armor plate
This is a combat/support hybrid fitting. Not really a match against a well specced proto assault suit, but not so bad that I can't stay in and fight and do some damage.
Keeping everything the same is not a viable option. I feel that I sort of have to fit at least one shield regulator, just to get the benefit of the new racial bonus, so my armor plate is thereby lost. And together with the racial bonus I lose 65+ 66 shields equals - 131 HP, taking my suit down from 752 HP down to roughly 615 HP. This change I don't have a problem with, although I'm not especially fond of the new racial bonus...
Its the loss of CPU that worries me. I haven't run the numbers, but I highly doubt I can keep the same fitting as mentioned above.
So where do I reduce the tier of my modules to find a fitting that works? I don't really see using 2 CPU upgrades as an alternative.
Do I put on a GEK? - No, I'm not gonna come with a vanilla gek vs assaults running Duvolles with 2 damage mods...
Do I get a smaller nade? - No, as a logi I don't have a sidearm and I'll keep the weapons I have...
Will I reduce my tank or stamina? No way, not in a million years!
So what is left? Yes its that proto equipment.... I might have to remove it or reduce it down a tier or two.
So in effect; the patch that is supposed to make me more of a Logi and less of an assault player, will perhaps have the exact opposite effect, not a smart move IMO. +1 I too have said IF things gotta leave my fitting so I can fit it all the first will be my support equipment. Then obviously your number one concern is killing reds, not supporting your team. So by killing reds I am not supporting the team? Your logic is flawed...
If that's what you want to do then go assault not logistics, your logic in suit choice is flawed.
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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.07.24 09:51:00 -
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I think these Cal logi whiners need to fit a proto assault to see just how well off they are.
Even with the CPU nerf you all still have more versatility than Assault. |
Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.07.24 10:39:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:I think these Cal logi whiners need to fit a proto assault to see just how well off they are.
Even with the CPU nerf you all still have more versatility than Assault. Wow someone who is actually smart? +1 for knowing more than one suit Fair enough, someone write me up a proto assault setup. Edit: give me a tanked cal assault fit, I'd really like to know....
I only have Caldari Med proto, not assault role specific.
Related fitting skills: Electronics V, Engineering II, Core upgrades IV, Light Wep OP IV, Sidearm OP II.
Highs: 3x Complex shield ext, 1x Complex recharger.
Lows: 1x Complex regulator, 1x basic armor repair, 1x enhanced CPU upgrade.
Light: Duvolle
Sidearm: TT-3 Assault scrambler pistol.
Grenade: M1 Locus, or EXO AV
Equipment, Basic nanohive.
Total of 470 Shield 138 arm, 608 EHP at 455 of 487 CPU 63 of 69 PG.
Now say I want to run a Kinetic catalyze, well there goes the CPU upgrade. Now I must choose what sacrifices to make. For me that means dropping to a Gek, Basic assault scrambler and Basic locus nades (basic AV's won't fit) . Although I keep the same highs and the repper and regulator. This fit is 390 of 390 CPU, 63 of 69 PG.
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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.07.24 10:51:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:xAckie wrote:KingBabar wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:I think these Cal logi whiners need to fit a proto assault to see just how well off they are.
Even with the CPU nerf you all still have more versatility than Assault. Wow someone who is actually smart? +1 for knowing more than one suit Fair enough, someone write me up a proto assault setup. Edit: give me a tanked cal assault fit, I'd really like to know.... if I max out PG CPU etc. The following is a possible fitting - tanking - caldari assault. Everyone can now tell me I am doing it wrong.... 480hp shield 242 armour 3 complex extenders 1 complex recharger enhanced armour plate complex CPU upgrade basic armour repairer Duvolle Ishukone smg Core locus pick one of the following: level 4 nanohive level 1 remote level 1 drop link drop down to an M1 to fit level 4 droplink I could drop the Ishukone down but I picked assault cause of the sidearm. Wow! This is actuallly a lot better than I thought. Personally I would lose the enhanced plate in favor of more speed and a basic armor plate. This will give you room for a proto equipment most likely... You still get: + more tank + faster shield regen + faster move speed + faster run speed + quicker strafing + twice the amount of stamina/recharge + its cheaper + sidearm - slower armor rep - 2 equipment slots - its not as versatile I'm fairly confident that i could build a better suit suited for combat with todays numbers by using an assault suit, compared to my hybrid fitting mentioned in OP. My points still stands. And here I thought that the Cal Logi was superior to the assault for combat use, what a load of BS.
A potential extra 200 shield HP over the assault, with built in reps + 4 lows, no not superior at all.
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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:55:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Not sure what I'll do, going to try various fittings until something works once I get the mega CPU/shield nerf. More than likely I'll be dropping 1 or 2 equipment from my rotation. Hope you turkeys are happy, less ammo and/or uplinks for you on the field. I might even start running a troll logi suit, which revives you only so you can die again over and over and over (but I'll be shield/armor tanked and will survive). I'll also place hives somewhere you have to go out of your way to use, only to find out it's a garbage hive that gives you one nade and a handful of ammo.  Either way I'll figure out some way to make players lives miserable in pub matches. Turkeys need to be taught a lesson, and maybe even deep-fried too  .
If you are that butthurt that you're hell bent on spreading your buthurtedness to all maybe you should just quit all together?
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