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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:01:00 -
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CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
66
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:03:00 -
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And then the trolls came... Also Caldari Logi Cpu shouldn't have been touched. That is all. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
324
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:04:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". Bf3 all guns are pretty equal none are OP but some are overused |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:04:00 -
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Ronan Elsword wrote:And then the trolls came... Also Caldari Logi Cpu shouldn't have been touched. That is all. As a cal logi I completely agree. The racial ability needed a fix and thats what CCP did. Props to them for that. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
144
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:05:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:hackerzilla wrote:CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". Bf3 all guns are pretty equal none are OP but some are overused True enough, but I was just using battlefield as an example. BF3 has probably the most balanced FPS... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
799
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:06:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". AR's are boring.
Flay Lock needs a nerf.
The Splash radius and damage were a good start and a direct damage was needed but only to lower the hit damage to lower than 200 not down to 165.
Buddy if you aren't armour tanking then you don't know what you are talking about because the explosives weapons spam has been harsh to us. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
144
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:hackerzilla wrote:CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". AR's are boring. Flay Lock needs a nerf. The Splash radius and damage were a good start and a direct damage was needed but only to lower the hit damage to lower than 200 not down to 165. Buddy if you aren't armour tanking then you don't know what you are talking about because the explosives weapons spam has been harsh to us. I wasn't specifically talking about talking about the flaylock, but I feel a little bad whenever I blow up one of you squishy ammar with my mass driver. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3022
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:14:00 -
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lol...
Very few, if any person on this forum has played BF3 more than me, and they DID nerf and buff weapons quite a bit, actually they nerfed the F2000, only to buff it back.
The AEK didn't need a buff, and they buffed it. The M416 also. By doing this they made other guns USELESS, for example the AK74M. Why on earth would anyone use that when the M416 does the same job only far better. Even the AUG is better cuz it's bullpup AND has one of the fastest bullet speeds in the game.
BF3 is not exactly the best balanced game out there, but it's not bad either. They just made certain weapons useless thanks to their buffs and nerfs.
The biggest nerf came from them re-balancing the attachments and how they work together. The suppressor + grip combo was OP, and they nerfed that combo.
People complained about the Famas, and it got nerfed. People complained about the USAS + Frags, and it got nerfed. People complained about the M16A3 and it also got a nerf.
So I don't know what you're talking about exactly. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1862
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:17:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". Charts and graphs aren't made with feels. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
801
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:19:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:True Adamance wrote:hackerzilla wrote:CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". AR's are boring. Flay Lock needs a nerf. The Splash radius and damage were a good start and a direct damage was needed but only to lower the hit damage to lower than 200 not down to 165. Buddy if you aren't armour tanking then you don't know what you are talking about because the explosives weapons spam has been harsh to us. I wasn't specifically talking about talking about the flaylock, but I feel a little bad whenever I blow up one of you squishy ammar with my mass driver. And I'm damn glad the mass driver is back. It was no fun kicking your weak as hell shield infantry asses all over the map.
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:hackerzilla wrote:True Adamance wrote:hackerzilla wrote:CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". AR's are boring. Flay Lock needs a nerf. The Splash radius and damage were a good start and a direct damage was needed but only to lower the hit damage to lower than 200 not down to 165. Buddy if you aren't armour tanking then you don't know what you are talking about because the explosives weapons spam has been harsh to us. I wasn't specifically talking about talking about the flaylock, but I feel a little bad whenever I blow up one of you squishy ammar with my mass driver. And I'm damn glad the mass driver is back. It was no fun kicking your weak as hell shield infantry asses all over the map. Being a masshole is fun, if you're good at it... |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
66
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:28:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:True Adamance wrote:hackerzilla wrote:CCP nerfs stuff so much because they are easily swayed, especially compared to other games. (I know I'm a terrible person for comparing Dust to BF3) So in battlefield if someone were to complain about a gun a couple of times they wouldn't instantly nerf it in the next patch they would ignore it unless it was terribly overpowered. CCP is to fast to jump the gun. or hammer, and thats why stuff gets nerfed so much. If there is too be good game balance CCP should listen exclusively to players with experience on the topic and viable facts to back them up. I, myself am not one of these people for I lack patience . If you see this CCP please don't just listen to players that are close minded and when something is better than them or their AR then they complain an call it "OP". AR's are boring. Flay Lock needs a nerf. The Splash radius and damage were a good start and a direct damage was needed but only to lower the hit damage to lower than 200 not down to 165. Buddy if you aren't armour tanking then you don't know what you are talking about because the explosives weapons spam has been harsh to us. I wasn't specifically talking about talking about the flaylock, but I feel a little bad whenever I blow up one of you squishy ammar with my mass driver.
I'm an armor tanking Masshole, and I don't feel bad in the slightest when I shell the **** out of anyone. All it does is make me fell vindicated for sticking with the MD even through the Uprising debacle. |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
152
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Posted - 2013.07.24 05:18:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:lol...
Very few, if any person on this forum has played BF3 more than me, and they DID nerf and buff weapons quite a bit, actually they nerfed the F2000, only to buff it back.
The AEK didn't need a buff, and they buffed it. The M416 also. By doing this they made other guns USELESS, for example the AK74M. Why on earth would anyone use that when the M416 does the same job only far better. Even the AUG is better cuz it's bullpup AND has one of the fastest bullet speeds in the game.
BF3 is not exactly the best balanced game out there, but it's not bad either. They just made certain weapons useless thanks to their buffs and nerfs.
The biggest nerf came from them re-balancing the attachments and how they work together. The suppressor + grip combo was OP, and they nerfed that combo.
People complained about the Famas, and it got nerfed. People complained about the USAS + Frags, and it got nerfed. People complained about the M16A3 and it also got a nerf.
So I don't know what you're talking about exactly.
I remember back in 1966 pick up sticks when the infer red night vision scope was used on every weapon. DICE nerfed it to uselessness and never brought it back. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
362
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Posted - 2013.07.24 05:31:00 -
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Just saying.
1. its ok to compare two games....
if it comes down to it and you have to pick some one to save your life
A wolverine B a child
and the person you don't pick has to come kill you the logical choice is the pick wolverine cuse he will kill the child AND you (no other options defender fist then the person being defended)
This is a weird example i know and i don't care
2. things are only OP if they have no counter play
let's have a look at flaylock it's a close range weapon that has good splash damage (AND ITS A SIDE ARM) it is uselss at medium to long range ~
But it does the job of a shotgun better than a shotgun ! among other things leads to it being out of place
3. yes you are right it would help if they did not listen to EVER QQ and just did the game correctly making sure there are plenty of counter play mechanics
its why moba games can be so fun
hero a counters hero b but hero b counter hero z hero z counter a and c hero c counter hero a and c
hero h can win again / counter all of them Hero h is op.
but then ontop of these balance issues there are PLAYER SKILLS to keep in mind a noob with a ar will say the shotgun is op cuse he can't aim
~ THIS IS WHY PEOPLE COPY WOW AND COD MAKING UP NEW SH!T IS HARD
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